Dear
Wendy. all
As
a fresh arrived person in this side of the debate, I guess we could benefit with
a broader debate about the issue.
I
see good points in both models but I believe we just get positive results from
any debate if we have clear focus and clear rules about how to behavior and how
to contribute.
The
summit
Since
we have to deal with different regions and cultures, to end with a summit I
would suggest to go by steps:
Define
the focus- the main question we want to see answered;
Define
de modus operandi ( I believe we
need a teleconference inside regions to get feedback from each region) – final position
paper from each region
Select
representatives for the summit – define rules about representativeness
Set
up the summit – invite independent persons to contribute with fresh ideas and
let’s them to defend their ideas facing the representatives – then, getting
papers ideas+ fresh ideas + debate, we can get out with a consistent and wide
definition of bottom up and/or other issues we may include to strength the
concept.
My
2 cents
Polo
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Enviada em: sexta-feira, 5 de outubro de 2007 06:34
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Cc: At-Large Worldwide
Assunto: Re: [At-Large] What is a bottom -up process
Thanks Robert,
I agree we need to address what "bottom-up"
means, and to square the
reasonable expectations of at-large's individual
Internet users with
those of ICANN.
Especially on budgeting and staffing matters, At-Large
is often pulled
both ways -- blamed for costing ICANN thousands of
dollars, but given no
control over the allocation of that funding or staff
attention to
matters of concern to its users or data-gathering.
While in Frankfurt, I've had the chance to talk with
board members and
staff alike who suggest that these are more problems
of misunderstanding
than bad intention -- so let's arrange some meetings
in LA to discuss
how we can work more collaboratively between the
"bottom" and "top."
I'd particularly like to push forward discussion of an
at-large summit,
since that's proposed as an opportunity for
individuals and their
groups' representatives to discuss ICANN matters of
concern across
regional borders.
--Wendy
> There's been some discussion about bottom-up
processes and how they
> are done both at ICANN and elsewhere.
>
> Activists, Civil Society and/or NGO's tend to
have a far broader
> interpretation of bottom-up consultation
processes. Ongoing
> communication, engagement and attempt at
consensus is one model -
> imposing a process and outcome a-priori is
another model.
>
> Where does ALAC stand? Does it agree with the
staff position or does
> it instead favor those put forward by CIRA, NCUC
and others ?
>
> ref:
> http://cira.ca/news-releases/201.html
>
>
> It seems to me that public statements from ICANN
- both at meetings
> and on several lists - seem to indicate that
there's a bit of a gulf
> between how ICANN and ALAC. But, that' just my
reading of the
> situation. Perhaps i'm wrong .. ?
>
> Instead of getting into a debate about how things
have, or not , been
> done in the past - let me suggest we address the
issue head on at our
> upcoming LA ALAC meeting.
>
>
> regards,
>
> Robert
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