Dear all,

Extremely interesting discussion.

Two cents from my side:

1. Ukraine did not ask ICANN to judge who are "good guys, who are bad ones" and to punish bad ones. Actually, we did not ask for help, but we received it - thank you all so-so much!

2. All this discussion can't influence the Russian government's decision to isolate Runet from the Global Internet. I still doubt that they will even try - after their failure with Era cryptophone in Ukraine.

But we, Ukrainians, do ask you: are you ready for this decision? 

During the GAC session at ICANN73 I heard the position of Russian representative in GAC - I can send you transcripts, if you are interested.

I did not hear the position of Russian representatives at At-Large.

Kind regards from bombed Kyiv,
Oksana






On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 4:43 PM Evan Leibovitch via At-Large <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 9:47 AM Alan Levin via At-Large <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
 
I suggest that Antony and Evan and all the others that want to block Russia.... go and fight,

I have not advocated to block Russia in this thread. Go back and check.

This is why sane discussion here seems so impenetrable. You must be running out of straw.

My original complaint here was that ICANN and ALAC have been utterly myopic as to assert that the only options to deal with the situation are binary -- "Unplug Russia" or "Thoughts and prayers". Alan, Maureen and others here have masterfully proven my point by addressing that choice and nothing else. Everyone is arguing against a position I did not take.

There exist middle grounds, things that can be done without unplugging Russia, and it's to ALAC's disgrace that it never even considered them.

- Evan


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