RE: [At-Large] Resolution of the Board of Directors related to theproposed Summit

Danny,

1. I wasn't involved in this particular budget, although I will be for Cairo. I will have to get back to you on the budget calculations when I get back home which won't be for about a week and a half as I am presenting at another conference in Vancouver in the interim.

2. I hear ya but we cannot all judge the rest of the world by the usual "North American white male"-centric standard. I am hearing from other regions that just cannot get input from their ALSs. Why? Various reasons. Although, I look at myself, with all of the advantages in the world, and its taken 3 ICANN meetings and a year and a half for me to finally start putting everything together and in perspective and become up to speed on the issues. And I'm still not anywhere NEAR where you are but doing my best. Many others have not had the benefits of the meetings and discussions that I have had so I can only imagine how they are feeling. Especially when they see discussions like this happening on list. Can you imagine how discouraging that is?

3. The ALSs that MIGHT already have a clue in NA won't become an ALS because of mistrust of ICANN (imagine!) so we cannot even engage those ones. This needs to be cleared up and both you and I know the reasons behind this.

4. Of the five issues that you pointed out below, even *I* was only aware of one of them. Better lines of communication are REALLY necessary.

I really hope that my friends in other regions will respond to your e-mail as this is the last one that I will send on this topice but they are probably in the air right now. As I am still available and on-line I am acting as a stop-gap to try to answer your questions but am probably not the most experienced person in the world to do so.

Darlene

Darlene,

1. As per the ICANN Policy VP "US$7,000 is the
estimate ICANN uses for international travel and is
based on business class purchased 45+ days in advance
through ICANN's travel agents." -- see
http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg04282.html

If the At-Large intends to provide travel funding for
each of the 100+ ALSs, then the budgeted amount will
exceed $700,000 (by standard calculations).

2. I'm really getting tired of hearing this song and
dance about the poor uneducated, unengaged
non-contributing ALSs. Each one of them agreed upon
signing up to a defined set of responsibilities (that
most all have ignored) that boil down to this --
paying attention to what's going on, and reporting
back with policy advice.

Since the Los Angeles session we have seen the
following developments:

a. Network Solutions engaging in front-running (or,
more properly, "domain reservation" activities).
b. registrants at Belgiumdomains being unable to
manage their accounts as their registrar has been
locked-out of VeriSign by Court Order stemming from
the Dell typosquatting lawsuit
c. the CADNA submission/research on drop-catching
issues
d. the change put through by .travel management
allowing for PPC speculation in dot travel, along with
the .travel registry being put up for sale
e. a board member (Rita Rodin), who functions as
legal counsel for Telnic, engaged in active
discussions on the .tel contractual amendments (a
slight conflict of interest, wouldn't you think?).

Yet the ALAC and the ALSs have had nothing to say
about any of these issues... poor babies, they can't
use a computer like the rest of us to keep current on
issues -- they have to be led by the hand and
"educated".

Sorry, but this is a waste of money that will produce
no beneficial results. Those that care make an effort
to pay attention and manage to participate (as evinced
by years of member participation in the GA that saw a
subscriber list in excess of 1000 participants). None
of them had to be spoon fed on the registrant's dime.

--- "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson@GOV.NU.CA> wrote:

> Danny,
>
> #1 - See my e-mail to Vittorio wherein I correct the
> amount. I know you got that amount from me in the
> first place but we have worked really hard this week
> to bring that down.
>
> #2 - Its rather hard for ALSs to finalize serious
> documents on issues that actually concern the
> community, perform analyses, make concrete
> recommentations and such if they aren't adequately
> engaged or educated on the issues at stake. This is
> precisely what the Summit is geared to correct.
>
> Darlene
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf
> of Danny Younger
> Sent: Fri 2/15/2008 7:57 AM
> To: 'At-Large Worldwide'
> Cc: vb@bertola.eu
> Subject: [At-Large] Resolution of the Board of
> Directors related to theproposed Summit
>
>
>
> Re: "Do I get it well?"
>
> Yes, Vittorio, you get it well.
>
> While other advisory bodies will be busy working,
> finalizing serious documents on issues that actually
> concern the community, performing analyses, making
> concrete recommendations and such, the at-large will
> be busy wasting a half million dollars of registrant
> monies on a giant group hug.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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