Though I am not there, I think what we need is not an "apology", but more
constructive dialogue.
That will be among us, including between 15 members,
between 15 members and other ALAC/RALO/ALS members,
and between that and staff members involved with ALAC.
For which, even 10 minute frank exchange of views on this unfortunate
incident and ways for future working relationship may serve.
Shutting down the good opportunity is not the best way, right?
thanks,
izumi
If the ALAC feels it's necessary. I don't.
From: Nick Ashton-Hart [mailto:nick.ashton-hart@icann.org]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 18:23
To: Thompson, Darlene
Cc: At-Large Global List
Subject: Re: [At-Large] Comments about at-large/ALAC in ICANN newsletter
Thanks very much for being understanding :)
That said, Kieren has come up to me and apologised and has asked to convey his apologies in person at the ALAC meeting tomorrow. I have told him that I will ask the Chair if she wishes to make the time for this but that I had a feeling a number of Members would be happy to hear such a statement.
On 31 Oct 2007, at 17:53, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
Hey Nick,
Awesome e-mail. I think that we can all file this away under the topic of "Shit happens" and let it go. If it were a perfect world...
I think that everybody is just getting a little tired and strung out and then things are said that aren't as well worded as they could have been. Blah.
Also, I would like to take this moment to thank ICANN staff. You guys are working your butts off and it hasn't gone unnoticed. EXCELLENT job done by all!
Darlene
From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of Nick Ashton-Hart
Sent: Wed 10/31/2007 3:22 PM
To: Bret Fausett
Cc: At-Large Global List
Subject: Re: [At-Large] Comments about at-large/ALAC in ICANN newsletterThere is not yet an online version for me to link to or attach but
here's the exact text in the newsletter:
"Growing pains appeared at the ALAC meeting when representatives of
the regional at large organisations (RALOs) accused the committee of
being poor value of money and operating badly. They then proceeded to
list a number of ways in which they intended to keep the Committee
members to account.
This soon gave way to some constructive dialogue however. Statements
were produced on gTLDs and IDN questions and a resolution passed in
favour of an IDN fast-track. Not unusually the ALAC requested more
resources from ICANN."
I want you all to know that this situation is not reflective of the
view of ICANN as a whole. Denise and I are very aware of this and we
are very sorry on behalf of ICANN.
More will be forthcoming on the subject.
On 31 Oct 2007, at 11:27, Bret Fausett wrote:
> Robert, this post is an example of something that I think is making
> this list difficult to manage. The post vaguely suggests that
> something inappropriate has happened, based on hearsay reports from
> unidentified colleagues. I have no idea what you're talking about,
> and I think I'm rather steeped in the ICANN organization. Perhaps
> it would have been better to hold this message until you actually
> had the language in hand, could quote it and then describe your
> concerns. As it is, I don't know what you're talking about, even
> after reviewing all the recent ICANN newsletters I could find in my
> inbox. I'm not sure how this message accomplished anything other
> than to kindle some flames. I don't mean to pick on you, or anyone,
> I'd just like to see us use this list less as a place for instant
> reactions and more as a forum for considered dialogue.
>
> Bret
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2007, at 10:50 AM, Robert Guerra wrote:
>
>> Several colleagues are reporting that inappropriate and false
>> information on and about at-large and ALAC meetings this week are
>> being printed in the ICANN newsletter.
>>
>> I would like to ask :
>>
>> 1. that the text present in the newsletter be posted to the list, and
>> 2. should the text and/or comments be deemed as inappropriate, then
>> ALAC should take appropriate actions
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Robet
>>
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