https://www.cavebear.com/cavebear-blog/stakeholder_sock_puppet/

(I didn't go into some potentially intriguing applications of the stakeholder model.  For instance here in the US we have some states, such as Texas, that are essentially eliminating rights of women to obtain abortions.  If we were to fully honor the stakeholder model then only real "stakeholders" in that matter are women, and thus under a true stakeholder model of governance, women ought to be the only ones who would have a voice in the decision to enact that law or not.)

Which in a very perverse way does show what BS* MSism is........ A convenient device... all stakeholders will together decide, but then we will decide who the stakeholders are --

(1) either directly -- why gov, CS, tech and business, why not the 'major groups' recognized for sustainable development (Women. Children and Youth, Indigenous Peoples, Non-Governmental Organizations, Local Authorities, Workers and Trade Unions, Business and Industry, Scientific and Technological Community https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/mgos ), OECD traditionally worked with civil society, trade unions and business ... And so on

, And/ or (2) indirectly -- by actively creating and sustaining conditions so that 'favored' 'stakeholders' alone can effectively be present and engage   (anyone wants proof? i can provide it)

I challenge any or all purveyor(s) of MS ism (or what was it -- MS governance systems) to come and co-organise a global conference on MSism (or whatever), and we will get theorists and practitioners of participatory democracy, and anyone else you want, over there -- and we can discuss threadbare and will know 'what is what' .... Any takers? Olivier? Others?

parminder

    --karl--