Hi Izumi,
Please do not take anything that I said to mean that I thought that there was any kind of intention to hide anything and I truly do not think that anything was “twisted” on the internal list. I also do not think that it was intentional to “hide” any of the conversation. I think it was completely unintentional and only because of the time crunch that everybody was under.
I, too, do not have any perfect way to address this and yes, Alan did post the final draft to the public list.
Or, maybe I’m wrong. Maybe people on the public list don’t want their e-mail in-boxes flooded with e-mails that are mainly word-smithing (I know I sure got a ton of them over the last couple of days).
Anyways, I’m going to stop rambling now.
Darlene
Darlene A. Thompson
Community Access Program Administrator
Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP
c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0
Phone: (867) 975-6531
Fax: (867) 975-6510
dthompson@gov.nu.ca
From:
izumiaizu@gmail.com [mailto:izumiaizu@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Izumi AIZU
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007
9:11 AM
To: Thompson, Darlene
Cc: Robert Guerra; At-Large
Worldwide
Subject: Re: [At-Large]
Discussions should be transparent / Open ...
I didn't see the handling
of Domain Tasting statement as violation
of transparency etc, and also agree with Jacqueline that final
wordsmith can be done at internal list, provided almost
all substantive discussion was done on the open public list.
It also may relate to how "ALAC statement" as such is formulated
and released. In ideal situation, or for formal resolution, there will
be "final call" - to send the latest draft and ask for every 15
committee
member - 10 of whom represent RALOs (at least in theory), and 5 NomCom
designated representative of wider community 15 members will say YES or
NO within, say 24 hours, if majority of 15 say YES, then it becomes formal.
Well, that is calling for Votes.
HOWEVER, making statements do not work this way in reality. Usually, the
final draft will be sent, asking for any "strong" descents, otherwise
it is adopted
by silent majority. BUT, if it is sent to "public list", there is a
risk of not making
the final closure in time, or there is some vague procedure issue still remain.
I don't know how to address this in a perfect way. I know it still can be done,
but having dobule track, one in public and one for internal wordsmith, is
not that bad way, to me. I do not see there has been no real intention
to hide anything. Just a metter of efficiency. OR, was there any specific
example of making final twist only on internal list? I did not see it.
I thought Alan has posted all the drafts to the public list untli end.
izumi
2007/12/6, Thompson, Darlene <DThompson@gov.nu.ca >:
I agree and also think that final "word-smithing" on documents can be held on the public lists, too.
Having said that, cudos to all that worked so hard at getting the Domain Tasting document in on time and this e-mail should in no way be seen as derogatory to those people. It's a general statement.
I will, however, always support transparency.
Darlene
Darlene A. Thompson
Community Access Program Administrator
Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP
c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0
Phone: (867) 975-6531
Fax: (867) 975-6510
From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org
[mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org]
On Behalf Of Robert Guerra
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007
2:17 PM
To: At-Large
Worldwide
Subject: [At-Large]
Discussions should be transparent / Open ...
I've repeatedly been raising the issue - that in fact the ALAC internal list should be for confidential matters, while all discussions (especially policy) should take place on the more open and transparent public at-large list.
Any support on this matter would be most welcome.
regards,
Robert
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