As I see one of our goals is to increase our potential and our ranks with individual members and ALSs, who have significantly thinned and become even more silent during the pandemic time.
Now this catastrophe (I can't find any other words, there is a huge pain inside only) apart from all the horrors creates a precedent of isolation and exclusion from the agenda of the active core of representatives of Russia (organizations and individuals).
I think it is necessary to clarify for ourselves - is At-Large a right place for such initiatives and for this fight against the part of the community? Do we remember that At-Large unites people from all over the world by common work to present and protect the end users interests and maybe not the right place for such discussions? +1 to Maureen, Tijani, Alan Levin and others respected friends and colleagues.
Put other nations and countries in the place of the words "Russian" or "Russia" in your emails mentally. Do you think it is possible to phase out other nations and countries from the agenda and the Internet landscape? Or is it a target case?
Separately, I would like to note that respected members of the discussion who advocate the exclusion of the .RU from the register of TLD and the exclusion of Russians from Internet interaction act in exceptional harmony with those against whom they are fighting here.
It looks to me in the near future (not now) we should care for our further abilities to work together within the framework of the At-Large (members, ALSes, partners). Officially we don't see any problems. To be honest we are not sure and we`ll definitely see it definitely.
I would like to initiate this dialogue or at least the intentions. We probably should have proper communication inside and outside the ICANN community. Maybe At-Large becomes the an absolutely unique where people with different cultural and mental codes are united in work, interaction and friendship and stop xenophobia, racism, extremism. Maybe it will be the only one space like this.
Via this email I bring the most sincere compassion to our members and people from Ukraine and other countries who are affected.
Please take care of yourself.
_______________________________________________+1 Tijani and completely agree with Maureen’s statement.
Regards,
Amrita
From: At-Large <at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> On Behalf Of Tijani BEN JEMAA via At-Large
Sent: 14 March 2022 14:03
To: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>
Cc: At-Large Worldwide <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Subject: Re: [At-Large] Ukraine, .RU, and internet governance
Thank you Maureen for your clear message. You are speaking for the ICANN At-Large community and I’m one of them.
Best
Le 14 mars 2022 à 12:26 AM, Maureen Hilyard via At-Large <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> a écrit :
Evan
The majority of our At-Large members continue to stand by our remit, and support the ISOC and ICANN calls to minimise any risk to the continued use of the internet by Internet end-users universally regardless of the politics of their countries. This is not "doing nothing".
Maureen
On Sun, 13 Mar 2022, 1:04 pm Evan Leibovitch via At-Large, <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 2:12 PM Antony Van Couvering via At-Large <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
It’s appears that there is no appetite within this community to block .ru, or to do something substantive to help Ukraine in its hour of need, or even to say something about it. Finally, something that unites a normally fractious group.
It's worse than that. ICANN won't even take the very minor diplomatic steps taken globally in every other sector that, while not cutting .RU out of the root, would still help to enforce an isolation that in aggregate may help bring the country to change its path. ICANN could deny registration of Russian nationals to ICANN meetings or participation in ongoing policy activities, or even take the miniscule step of refusing to subsidize their travel. Hell, it still won't take action on the rogue .SU domain after all these years. And ALAC is quite fine with such inaction, it's had plenty of time to consider options to support community isolation while still keeping the data flowing.
But here, in the mindset of all or nothing, both ICANN and ALAC have actively chosen nothing. Pathetic.
Of course there is one more scenario that nobody here will like. As I like to remind people, there is no international treaty governing ICANN and the IANA "transition" was bullshit, so ICANN remains subject to US (and as we saw in the case of .ORG, California) authority. It would not surprise me at all if forcing ICANN to cut off Russia remains a back-pocket option of the US State Department as an enhanced sanction (now that they've already cut off Russian caviar). ICANN's refusal to do ANYTHING only encourages and legitimizes such action, but its low external respect guarantees that nobody outside the bubble will fight for it.
- Evan
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