On Thursday 24 March 2016 09:34 PM, John R. Levine wrote:
International incorporation either follows a new treaty, or can be under
the UN....

This is where i will rest my case on this topic; ...

Indeed.  If we want the ITU, we know where to find it.

John, One can keep aiming at a strawman, when the real issue is something entirely different, but that is just not very useful other than to obfuscate the issue.

It should be very clear that I am not talking about actual techno-management of the Internet (in which ICANN and ITU may have or have had some rivalry). My article is clear that I am for letting ICANN do all that it does at present. The focus is only on the oversight layer, which is currently exercised by the US, and I argue that this situation is only partly and not entirely remedied, becuase anything that anyone could have feared as a possible wrongful outcome of US's unilateral oversight can still be done through an extensive set of existing jurisdictional - executive, legislative and judicial - powers that the US will continue to posses even after the current oversight process.... If you disagree that these powers of the US state will continue to exist please let me know. To get away from this wrongful subjugation to one country or state's powers, ICANN must get incorporated under international law, which will ensure host country jurisdictional immunities... I simply cant understand where does the ITU come in here !? There are so many organisations under international incorporation that remain very  independent in their working, plus we have all the leverage to be as innovative here as we can. But for that we should first begin examining this issue in the right earnest, and inter alia go beyond strawman arguments. There is no ITU issue here at all.

As a US citizen I can perhaps understand your lack of interest in ICANN's international incorporation, but when those of other countries, especially those who have suffered under the colonial yoke, too remain unconcerned with this problem, that really bothers, and pains, me..

parminder



R's,
John