Re: [At-Large] [ALAC-Announce] A briefing by the European Commission
Hello all, I recommended this Webinar as it feels somehow as a milestone in ICANN's history. The GDPR - General Data Protection Regulation, that was rolled out and enforced by the European Commission, had a big impact on ICANN's registration directory services. Whilst a replacement to WHOIS, the database of domain name registrants, has been in research for many years, the GDPR has changed the game and ICANN had to create an "expedited policy development process - EPDP" in the GNSO to create new rules relating to the access to registration data. That work is still in progress. However, in recent times, the European Commission has continued its work on ICT issues by drafting a "Digital Services Act" and launched some cybersecurity policy initiatives. Both these processes have the potential to directly affect some of ICANN's work. The milestone moment is that it is the first time that a number of senior policy representatives from a governing body such as the European Commission, are ready to interact directly not only with ICANN Org, but also with the ICANN Community. Of course there have been plenty of interactions in the past with the US Department of Commerce. There have also been plenty of interactions with governments in the GAC. But this time is different in that it is a set of non-US government representatives ready to have a dialogue with the different ICANN communities. Personally I have mixed feelings about this: on the one hand, I think it is a excellent opportunity to bring input to the European Commission - and to also understand the underlying reasons behind some of the proposed regulations. I am delighted that this interaction is taking place! On the other hand, I wonder what would happen if each government in the world were to start its own regulations and to engage the ICANN community on each of these regulations? What I mean by this, is the concern that was expressed in the latest Engagement Group on Internet Governance Session that regulation has the potential for Internet fragmentation. Yes, what a can of worms! So that's why this forthcoming session sounds like it's going to be super interesting on many levels. Don't miss it! Kindest regards, Olivier On 19/02/2021 01:47, Maureen Hilyard via ALAC-Announce wrote:
*As recommended by Olivier Crepin Leblond at the ALT+ meeting this morning. *
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*From: *Elena Plexida <elena.plexida@icann.org> <mailto:elena.plexida@icann.org> *Date: *Friday, 12 February 2021 at 15:06 *To: *ccwg-internet-governance <ccwg-internet-governance-bounces@icann.org> <mailto:ccwg-internet-governance-bounces@icann.org> *Cc: *Nora Mari <nora.mari@icann.org> <mailto:nora.mari@icann.org> *Subject: *ICANN Stakeholder Assembly: A Briefing by the European Commission on the Recent EU Initiatives on Digital Services and Cybersecurity
Dear all,
On 26 February 2021, we are hosting a webinar <https://features.icann.org/event/icann-organization/icann-stakeholder-assemb...> with the European Commission on its recent initiatives, including:
* The Digital Services Act (DSA) * The EU Cybersecurity Policy Initiatives: o The Cybersecurity Strategy o The revised Network and Information Security Directive (NIS2)
During the webinar the European Commission will provide an overview of the recently announced initiatives, focusing on the areas of relevance to the DNS and the broader ICANN community, and answer questions on these important initiatives and their possible impacts.
Here <https://icann.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_3DjDGwH7Q0KsKLtBYElkBA> is the direct link to registration.
Please note you can submit questions in advance to nora.mari@icann.org <mailto:nora.mari@icann.org>. Goes without saying the Commission will also be taking questions during the webinar.
For background information, you can view the recording of the ICANN Stakeholder Assembly: ICANN Perspectives on EU Digital Initiatives that took place on the 27 Jan here <https://icann.zoom.us/rec/play/8uVLgrqdjVQiEWIiiDFcSP9xt0VEH1SxEUOqhkRCa-Cvl...>.
Hope to see you there.
Kind Regards,
Elena
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While it is easy to focus on the GDPR one must not forget that as a California public-benefit/non-profit corporation, ICANN is subject to California's new privacy protection law, the CCPA, which is considered by some to be GDPR on steroids. While the CCPA's extent may not extend beyond California residents, the state does tend to have a large footprint. https://oag.ca.gov/privacy/ccpa --karl-- On 2/19/21 12:39 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via At-Large wrote:
Hello all,
I recommended this Webinar as it feels somehow as a milestone in ICANN's history.
The GDPR - General Data Protection Regulation, that was rolled out and enforced by the European Commission, had a big impact on ICANN's registration directory services. Whilst a replacement to WHOIS, the database of domain name registrants, has been in research for many years, the GDPR has changed the game and ICANN had to create an "expedited policy development process - EPDP" in the GNSO to create new rules relating to the access to registration data. That work is still in progress
You are right, Karl, and then what happens when other authorities start with their extra-territorial demands? Is the space going to turn into a regulation minefield? Is it going to cause a break-up of the Internet space? Or will it be so complex, only the largest players like the GAFAs have the resources to navigate the legislation thus killing off any smaller players and aiding consolidation, which we all agree is a bad thing for competition? Kindest regards, Olivier On 19/02/2021 10:59, Karl Auerbach wrote:
While it is easy to focus on the GDPR one must not forget that as a California public-benefit/non-profit corporation, ICANN is subject to California's new privacy protection law, the CCPA, which is considered by some to be GDPR on steroids. While the CCPA's extent may not extend beyond California residents, the state does tend to have a large footprint.
https://oag.ca.gov/privacy/ccpa
--karl--
On 2/19/21 12:39 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via At-Large wrote:
Hello all,
I recommended this Webinar as it feels somehow as a milestone in ICANN's history.
The GDPR - General Data Protection Regulation, that was rolled out and enforced by the European Commission, had a big impact on ICANN's registration directory services. Whilst a replacement to WHOIS, the database of domain name registrants, has been in research for many years, the GDPR has changed the game and ICANN had to create an "expedited policy development process - EPDP" in the GNSO to create new rules relating to the access to registration data. That work is still in progress
Well noted OCL, sounds like an issue of jurisdiction, doesn't it? As you yourself had already advertised on this list I believe, EURALO is hosting this round-table next Tuesday, where we'll look at the scope of public and private regulation online: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=157188757. We just might come up with some answers to these questions. Best to all, Joanna W dniu 19.02.2021 o 12:46, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via At-Large pisze:
You are right, Karl, and then what happens when other authorities start with their extra-territorial demands? Is the space going to turn into a regulation minefield? Is it going to cause a break-up of the Internet space? Or will it be so complex, only the largest players like the GAFAs have the resources to navigate the legislation thus killing off any smaller players and aiding consolidation, which we all agree is a bad thing for competition? Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 19/02/2021 10:59, Karl Auerbach wrote:
While it is easy to focus on the GDPR one must not forget that as a California public-benefit/non-profit corporation, ICANN is subject to California's new privacy protection law, the CCPA, which is considered by some to be GDPR on steroids. While the CCPA's extent may not extend beyond California residents, the state does tend to have a large footprint.
https://oag.ca.gov/privacy/ccpa
--karl--
On 2/19/21 12:39 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via At-Large wrote:
Hello all,
I recommended this Webinar as it feels somehow as a milestone in ICANN's history.
The GDPR - General Data Protection Regulation, that was rolled out and enforced by the European Commission, had a big impact on ICANN's registration directory services. Whilst a replacement to WHOIS, the database of domain name registrants, has been in research for many years, the GDPR has changed the game and ICANN had to create an "expedited policy development process - EPDP" in the GNSO to create new rules relating to the access to registration data. That work is still in progress
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As CCPA is overt about. These issues are basically considered "business" measures applying to businesses doing business in a territory over one or more thresholds. So they will increasingly be managed in "Trade Deals". Which of course puts ICANN back in its box (regulatory wise). I don't see this causing "Internet" fragmentation in the sense you lose logical global end to end connectivity but it may well lead to disparities in service availability in the same way that you have to have a local licence to play a DVD in your region or perform a song in public. So it is very likely that the availability of services from particular business and regulatory entities will increasingly fragment. I note that today being in the UK someone ism no longer eligible to register a .eu domain for instance. That has nothing to do with "privacy" rights and everything to do with politics. Christian On Fri 19 Feb 2021 at 11:46, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via At-Large <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
You are right, Karl, and then what happens when other authorities start with their extra-territorial demands? Is the space going to turn into a regulation minefield? Is it going to cause a break-up of the Internet space? Or will it be so complex, only the largest players like the GAFAs have the resources to navigate the legislation thus killing off any smaller players and aiding consolidation, which we all agree is a bad thing for competition? Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 19/02/2021 10:59, Karl Auerbach wrote:
While it is easy to focus on the GDPR one must not forget that as a California public-benefit/non-profit corporation, ICANN is subject to California's new privacy protection law, the CCPA, which is considered by some to be GDPR on steroids. While the CCPA's extent may not extend beyond California residents, the state does tend to have a large footprint.
https://oag.ca.gov/privacy/ccpa
--karl--
On 2/19/21 12:39 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via At-Large wrote:
Hello all,
I recommended this Webinar as it feels somehow as a milestone in ICANN's history.
The GDPR - General Data Protection Regulation, that was rolled out and enforced by the European Commission, had a big impact on ICANN's registration directory services. Whilst a replacement to WHOIS, the database of domain name registrants, has been in research for many years, the GDPR has changed the game and ICANN had to create an "expedited policy development process - EPDP" in the GNSO to create new rules relating to the access to registration data. That work is still in progress
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Christian de Larrinaga -
Joanna Kulesza -
Karl Auerbach -
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond