Just before the G8 meeting (26-27 May, Deauville) there will be an eG8 Forum (24-25 May, Paris) gathering the “leaders of the Internet”. Several I* organizations have been invited to participate (ICANN, W3C, IAB, ISOC, etc.), and it is understood that the outcomes of the discussions of the eG8 (format tbd) will be submitted to the G8 itself. <goog_974868408> The Internet Society is inviting comments from it's members, with a deadline of Wed 18 May, details on http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=2058 Is ICANN making a similar effort? j -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- -
Thanks for the info update, Joly. Much obliged. A thought. Given the themes and their intersection with certain global internet governance matters, I would have thought that the issues surrounding connecting the next billion might be of interest, no? However, given the locale of the majority of the 'next billion' to connect, maybe this topic might not resonate in the eG8 forum? Do you suppose the eG8 organizers would wish to hear opinions from this group? Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com> wrote:
Just before the G8 meeting (26-27 May, Deauville) there will be an eG8 Forum (24-25 May, Paris) gathering the “leaders of the Internet”. Several I* organizations have been invited to participate (ICANN, W3C, IAB, ISOC, etc.), and it is understood that the outcomes of the discussions of the eG8 (format tbd) will be submitted to the G8 itself.
<goog_974868408> The Internet Society is inviting comments from it's members, with a deadline of Wed 18 May, details on http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=2058
Is ICANN making a similar effort?
j
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Wish or not. if we have opinions we should raise them. I'll be happy to channel any At-Large concerns to ISOC's representatives. Who is attending on behalf of ICANN I wonder. j On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com>wrote:
Thanks for the info update, Joly. Much obliged.
A thought. Given the themes and their intersection with certain global internet governance matters, I would have thought that the issues surrounding connecting the next billion might be of interest, no?
However, given the locale of the majority of the 'next billion' to connect, maybe this topic might not resonate in the eG8 forum?
Do you suppose the eG8 organizers would wish to hear opinions from this group?
Carlton
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On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com> wrote:
Just before the G8 meeting (26-27 May, Deauville) there will be an eG8 Forum (24-25 May, Paris) gathering the “leaders of the Internet”. Several I* organizations have been invited to participate (ICANN, W3C, IAB, ISOC, etc.), and it is understood that the outcomes of the discussions of the eG8 (format tbd) will be submitted to the G8 itself.
<goog_974868408> The Internet Society is inviting comments from it's members, with a deadline of Wed 18 May, details on http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=2058
Is ICANN making a similar effort?
j
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Hi, as some of you may have already known, The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus, iGC, is very concerned with the lack of multi-stakeholder participation with this event.. We have prepared a letter of protest to President Sarcozy of France as the G8 Chair. We also notice that neither Private sector or Tech community demanding the inclusion of Civil Society to this meeting that is somewhat backward action against equal footing practice of IGF etc. AtLarge as the component of end-users, not business nor tech community within ICANN should also feel and hopefully express the concern close to IGC have. Many thanks, izumi 2011/5/14 Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com>:
Wish or not. if we have opinions we should raise them. I'll be happy to channel any At-Large concerns to ISOC's representatives.
Who is attending on behalf of ICANN I wonder.
j
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com>wrote:
Thanks for the info update, Joly. Much obliged.
A thought. Given the themes and their intersection with certain global internet governance matters, I would have thought that the issues surrounding connecting the next billion might be of interest, no?
However, given the locale of the majority of the 'next billion' to connect, maybe this topic might not resonate in the eG8 forum?
Do you suppose the eG8 organizers would wish to hear opinions from this group?
Carlton
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On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com> wrote:
Just before the G8 meeting (26-27 May, Deauville) there will be an eG8 Forum (24-25 May, Paris) gathering the “leaders of the Internet”. Several I* organizations have been invited to participate (ICANN, W3C, IAB, ISOC, etc.), and it is understood that the outcomes of the discussions of the eG8 (format tbd) will be submitted to the G8 itself.
<goog_974868408> The Internet Society is inviting comments from it's members, with a deadline of Wed 18 May, details on http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=2058
Is ICANN making a similar effort?
j
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Hello Joly, On 13/05/2011 23:39, Joly MacFie wrote :
Who is attending on behalf of ICANN I wonder.
Rod Beckstrom + Peter Dengate Thrush. Bertrand de la Chapelle also will be. There might be others. Kind regards, Olivier -- Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
Olivier, thanks. But as Izumi mentions, this does not make multistakeholder. Which is a shame. Particularly as participation of private sector seems to be tied to sponsorship (pay and you get a chance to speak... really is a terrible step backwards.) The multistakeholder environment has been essential in driving development of the Internet, particularly in maintiaing openness and ensuring accountability and transparency. Non-commercial actors have been crucial to this. Shame on the French Presidency for not understanding the thing it's proposing pontificate on. (this little rant not aimed at the ALAC chair :-)) Adam On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Hello Joly,
On 13/05/2011 23:39, Joly MacFie wrote :
Who is attending on behalf of ICANN I wonder.
Rod Beckstrom + Peter Dengate Thrush. Bertrand de la Chapelle also will be. There might be others. Kind regards,
Olivier
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+1 CW On 14 May 2011, at 18:47, Adam Peake wrote:
Olivier, thanks.
But as Izumi mentions, this does not make multistakeholder. Which is a shame. Particularly as participation of private sector seems to be tied to sponsorship (pay and you get a chance to speak... really is a terrible step backwards.)
The multistakeholder environment has been essential in driving development of the Internet, particularly in maintiaing openness and ensuring accountability and transparency. Non-commercial actors have been crucial to this. Shame on the French Presidency for not understanding the thing it's proposing pontificate on.
(this little rant not aimed at the ALAC chair :-))
Adam
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com
wrote: Hello Joly,
On 13/05/2011 23:39, Joly MacFie wrote :
Who is attending on behalf of ICANN I wonder.
Rod Beckstrom + Peter Dengate Thrush. Bertrand de la Chapelle also will be. There might be others. Kind regards,
Olivier
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Folks: I agree with Izumi and Adam, it`s a truly shame. We (civil society and end users) were excluded and consecuently the multistakeholder model is absent in this opportunity. I think we need to raise our voice and make hear our claims on this sense. Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org
Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 01:47:22 +0900 From: ajp@glocom.ac.jp To: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [At-Large] eG8 Forum
Olivier, thanks.
But as Izumi mentions, this does not make multistakeholder. Which is a shame. Particularly as participation of private sector seems to be tied to sponsorship (pay and you get a chance to speak... really is a terrible step backwards.)
The multistakeholder environment has been essential in driving development of the Internet, particularly in maintiaing openness and ensuring accountability and transparency. Non-commercial actors have been crucial to this. Shame on the French Presidency for not understanding the thing it's proposing pontificate on.
(this little rant not aimed at the ALAC chair :-))
Adam
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Hello Joly,
On 13/05/2011 23:39, Joly MacFie wrote :
Who is attending on behalf of ICANN I wonder.
Rod Beckstrom + Peter Dengate Thrush. Bertrand de la Chapelle also will be. There might be others. Kind regards,
Olivier
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A big +1!!!! ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Adam Peake <ajp@glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
Olivier, thanks.
But as Izumi mentions, this does not make multistakeholder. Which is a shame. Particularly as participation of private sector seems to be tied to sponsorship (pay and you get a chance to speak... really is a terrible step backwards.)
The multistakeholder environment has been essential in driving development of the Internet, particularly in maintiaing openness and ensuring accountability and transparency. Non-commercial actors have been crucial to this. Shame on the French Presidency for not understanding the thing it's proposing pontificate on.
(this little rant not aimed at the ALAC chair :-))
Adam
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Hello Joly,
On 13/05/2011 23:39, Joly MacFie wrote :
Who is attending on behalf of ICANN I wonder.
Rod Beckstrom + Peter Dengate Thrush. Bertrand de la Chapelle also will be. There might be others. Kind regards,
Olivier
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Dear all, I see that there is indeed support for an ALAC statement! A statement about the defence of the multi-stakeholder model is indeed possible. I would suggest that this needs to be no more than one paragraph - time is of the essence. Is anyone volunteering to put together a first draft? Also - does anyone have an idea about the channel through which we should send this statement and to whom? Kind regards, Olivier Crépin-Leblond On 15/05/2011 20:49, Carlton Samuels wrote :
A big +1!!!!
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On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Adam Peake <ajp@glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
Olivier, thanks.
But as Izumi mentions, this does not make multistakeholder. Which is a shame. Particularly as participation of private sector seems to be tied to sponsorship (pay and you get a chance to speak... really is a terrible step backwards.)
The multistakeholder environment has been essential in driving development of the Internet, particularly in maintiaing openness and ensuring accountability and transparency. Non-commercial actors have been crucial to this. Shame on the French Presidency for not understanding the thing it's proposing pontificate on.
(this little rant not aimed at the ALAC chair :-))
Adam
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Hello Joly,
On 13/05/2011 23:39, Joly MacFie wrote :
Who is attending on behalf of ICANN I wonder. Rod Beckstrom + Peter Dengate Thrush. Bertrand de la Chapelle also will be. There might be others. Kind regards,
Olivier
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Good day to all, I have put a draft statement together based on the emails on this issue (below) for your kind review and comment. We may require more info in the Intro and Final Paragraphs. Regards Cintra Sooknanan ==================================================================================================================== [INTRO] At-Large is the component of end-users, not business nor technical community within ICANN’s multi-stakeholder environment. At-Large is represented by the ALAC, which has been essential in driving development of the Internet by maintaining openness and ensuring accountability and transparency. The ALAC lauds the French Presidency’s objective of the G8 to - Improve everyone's access to the Internet; - Enable everyone to participate in global networks and promoting respect for freedom of expression and opinion; - Improve security of the Internet and protection of individuals; - Recommend examination of the Internet's economic and technical challenges.[FNOTE1] We recognise that several internet organizations (including ICANN, W3C, IAB and ISOC) have been invited to participate in the eG8 Forum (24-25 May, Paris) gathering the “leaders of the Internet” and acknowledge that the outcomes of the discussions will be submitted to the G8 itself for discussion. Therefore, we find it at odds with this objective and the equal-footing awarded to all Internet stakeholders, that the ALAC and other non-commercial actors which promote and represent the end-users were not invited to participate. This omission is particularly blatant, as participation of private sector appears to be tied to sponsorship. We hope that the French Presidency will achieve success in its objectives but this will only be possible if it can understand and include the perspectives of all stakeholders. ==================================================================================================================== [FNOTE1] http://www.g20-g8.com/g8-g20/g8/english/-fiches/the-internet-new-challenges.... On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:57 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com>wrote:
Dear all,
I see that there is indeed support for an ALAC statement! A statement about the defence of the multi-stakeholder model is indeed possible. I would suggest that this needs to be no more than one paragraph - time is of the essence. Is anyone volunteering to put together a first draft? Also - does anyone have an idea about the channel through which we should send this statement and to whom? Kind regards,
Olivier Crépin-Leblond
On 15/05/2011 20:49, Carlton Samuels wrote :
A big +1!!!!
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Adam Peake <ajp@glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
Olivier, thanks.
But as Izumi mentions, this does not make multistakeholder. Which is a shame. Particularly as participation of private sector seems to be tied to sponsorship (pay and you get a chance to speak... really is a terrible step backwards.)
The multistakeholder environment has been essential in driving development of the Internet, particularly in maintiaing openness and ensuring accountability and transparency. Non-commercial actors have been crucial to this. Shame on the French Presidency for not understanding the thing it's proposing pontificate on.
(this little rant not aimed at the ALAC chair :-))
Adam
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com
wrote:
Hello Joly,
On 13/05/2011 23:39, Joly MacFie wrote :
Who is attending on behalf of ICANN I wonder. Rod Beckstrom + Peter Dengate Thrush. Bertrand de la Chapelle also will be. There might be others. Kind regards,
Olivier
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Nicely worded, Cintra. Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 E-mail: dthompson@gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Cintra Sooknanan Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 9:05 AM To: At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] eG8 Forum Good day to all, I have put a draft statement together based on the emails on this issue (below) for your kind review and comment. We may require more info in the Intro and Final Paragraphs. Regards Cintra Sooknanan ==================================================================================================================== [INTRO] At-Large is the component of end-users, not business nor technical community within ICANN's multi-stakeholder environment. At-Large is represented by the ALAC, which has been essential in driving development of the Internet by maintaining openness and ensuring accountability and transparency. The ALAC lauds the French Presidency's objective of the G8 to - Improve everyone's access to the Internet; - Enable everyone to participate in global networks and promoting respect for freedom of expression and opinion; - Improve security of the Internet and protection of individuals; - Recommend examination of the Internet's economic and technical challenges.[FNOTE1] We recognise that several internet organizations (including ICANN, W3C, IAB and ISOC) have been invited to participate in the eG8 Forum (24-25 May, Paris) gathering the "leaders of the Internet" and acknowledge that the outcomes of the discussions will be submitted to the G8 itself for discussion. Therefore, we find it at odds with this objective and the equal-footing awarded to all Internet stakeholders, that the ALAC and other non-commercial actors which promote and represent the end-users were not invited to participate. This omission is particularly blatant, as participation of private sector appears to be tied to sponsorship. We hope that the French Presidency will achieve success in its objectives but this will only be possible if it can understand and include the perspectives of all stakeholders. ==================================================================================================================== [FNOTE1] http://www.g20-g8.com/g8-g20/g8/english/-fiches/the-internet-new-challenges.... On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:57 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com>wrote:
Dear all,
I see that there is indeed support for an ALAC statement! A statement about the defence of the multi-stakeholder model is indeed possible. I would suggest that this needs to be no more than one paragraph - time is of the essence. Is anyone volunteering to put together a first draft? Also - does anyone have an idea about the channel through which we should send this statement and to whom? Kind regards,
Olivier Crépin-Leblond
On 15/05/2011 20:49, Carlton Samuels wrote :
A big +1!!!!
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Adam Peake <ajp@glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
Olivier, thanks.
But as Izumi mentions, this does not make multistakeholder. Which is a shame. Particularly as participation of private sector seems to be tied to sponsorship (pay and you get a chance to speak... really is a terrible step backwards.)
The multistakeholder environment has been essential in driving development of the Internet, particularly in maintiaing openness and ensuring accountability and transparency. Non-commercial actors have been crucial to this. Shame on the French Presidency for not understanding the thing it's proposing pontificate on.
(this little rant not aimed at the ALAC chair :-))
Adam
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com
wrote:
Hello Joly,
On 13/05/2011 23:39, Joly MacFie wrote :
Who is attending on behalf of ICANN I wonder. Rod Beckstrom + Peter Dengate Thrush. Bertrand de la Chapelle also will be. There might be others. Kind regards,
Olivier
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Nice! Real nice. I would be seriously challenged to better this and so, fully endorsed. Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Cintra Sooknanan < cintra.sooknanan@gmail.com> wrote:
Good day to all,
I have put a draft statement together based on the emails on this issue (below) for your kind review and comment. We may require more info in the Intro and Final Paragraphs.
Regards
Cintra Sooknanan
====================================================================================================================
[INTRO] At-Large is the component of end-users, not business nor technical community within ICANN’s multi-stakeholder environment. At-Large is represented by the ALAC, which has been essential in driving development of the Internet by maintaining openness and ensuring accountability and transparency.
The ALAC lauds the French Presidency’s objective of the G8 to
- Improve everyone's access to the Internet; - Enable everyone to participate in global networks and promoting respect for freedom of expression and opinion; - Improve security of the Internet and protection of individuals; - Recommend examination of the Internet's economic and technical challenges.[FNOTE1]
We recognise that several internet organizations (including ICANN, W3C, IAB and ISOC) have been invited to participate in the eG8 Forum (24-25 May, Paris) gathering the “leaders of the Internet” and acknowledge that the outcomes of the discussions will be submitted to the G8 itself for discussion.
Therefore, we find it at odds with this objective and the equal-footing awarded to all Internet stakeholders, that the ALAC and other non-commercial actors which promote and represent the end-users were not invited to participate. This omission is particularly blatant, as participation of private sector appears to be tied to sponsorship.
We hope that the French Presidency will achieve success in its objectives but this will only be possible if it can understand and include the perspectives of all stakeholders.
====================================================================================================================
[FNOTE1]
http://www.g20-g8.com/g8-g20/g8/english/-fiches/the-internet-new-challenges....
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:57 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com
wrote:
Dear all,
I see that there is indeed support for an ALAC statement! A statement about the defence of the multi-stakeholder model is indeed possible. I would suggest that this needs to be no more than one paragraph - time is of the essence. Is anyone volunteering to put together a first draft? Also - does anyone have an idea about the channel through which we should send this statement and to whom? Kind regards,
Olivier Crépin-Leblond
On 15/05/2011 20:49, Carlton Samuels wrote :
A big +1!!!!
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Adam Peake <ajp@glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
Olivier, thanks.
But as Izumi mentions, this does not make multistakeholder. Which is a shame. Particularly as participation of private sector seems to be tied to sponsorship (pay and you get a chance to speak... really is a terrible step backwards.)
The multistakeholder environment has been essential in driving development of the Internet, particularly in maintiaing openness and ensuring accountability and transparency. Non-commercial actors have been crucial to this. Shame on the French Presidency for not understanding the thing it's proposing pontificate on.
(this little rant not aimed at the ALAC chair :-))
Adam
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Hello Joly,
On 13/05/2011 23:39, Joly MacFie wrote :
Who is attending on behalf of ICANN I wonder. Rod Beckstrom + Peter Dengate Thrush. Bertrand de la Chapelle also will be. There might be others. Kind regards,
Olivier
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Cintra: Great Work ! I`m fully agree with the statement made by you and hope everyone support it. Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org
From: carlton.samuels@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 08:35:03 -0500 To: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [At-Large] eG8 Forum
Nice! Real nice.
I would be seriously challenged to better this and so, fully endorsed.
Carlton
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On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Cintra Sooknanan < cintra.sooknanan@gmail.com> wrote:
Good day to all,
I have put a draft statement together based on the emails on this issue (below) for your kind review and comment. We may require more info in the Intro and Final Paragraphs.
Regards
Cintra Sooknanan
====================================================================================================================
[INTRO] At-Large is the component of end-users, not business nor technical community within ICANN’s multi-stakeholder environment. At-Large is represented by the ALAC, which has been essential in driving development of the Internet by maintaining openness and ensuring accountability and transparency.
The ALAC lauds the French Presidency’s objective of the G8 to
- Improve everyone's access to the Internet; - Enable everyone to participate in global networks and promoting respect for freedom of expression and opinion; - Improve security of the Internet and protection of individuals; - Recommend examination of the Internet's economic and technical challenges.[FNOTE1]
We recognise that several internet organizations (including ICANN, W3C, IAB and ISOC) have been invited to participate in the eG8 Forum (24-25 May, Paris) gathering the “leaders of the Internet” and acknowledge that the outcomes of the discussions will be submitted to the G8 itself for discussion.
Therefore, we find it at odds with this objective and the equal-footing awarded to all Internet stakeholders, that the ALAC and other non-commercial actors which promote and represent the end-users were not invited to participate. This omission is particularly blatant, as participation of private sector appears to be tied to sponsorship.
We hope that the French Presidency will achieve success in its objectives but this will only be possible if it can understand and include the perspectives of all stakeholders.
====================================================================================================================
[FNOTE1]
http://www.g20-g8.com/g8-g20/g8/english/-fiches/the-internet-new-challenges....
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:57 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com
wrote:
Dear all,
I see that there is indeed support for an ALAC statement! A statement about the defence of the multi-stakeholder model is indeed possible. I would suggest that this needs to be no more than one paragraph - time is of the essence. Is anyone volunteering to put together a first draft? Also - does anyone have an idea about the channel through which we should send this statement and to whom? Kind regards,
Olivier Crépin-Leblond
On 15/05/2011 20:49, Carlton Samuels wrote :
A big +1!!!!
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On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Adam Peake <ajp@glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
Olivier, thanks.
But as Izumi mentions, this does not make multistakeholder. Which is a shame. Particularly as participation of private sector seems to be tied to sponsorship (pay and you get a chance to speak... really is a terrible step backwards.)
The multistakeholder environment has been essential in driving development of the Internet, particularly in maintiaing openness and ensuring accountability and transparency. Non-commercial actors have been crucial to this. Shame on the French Presidency for not understanding the thing it's proposing pontificate on.
(this little rant not aimed at the ALAC chair :-))
Adam
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wrote:
Hello Joly,
On 13/05/2011 23:39, Joly MacFie wrote : > Who is attending on behalf of ICANN I wonder. Rod Beckstrom + Peter Dengate Thrush. Bertrand de la Chapelle also will be. There might be others. Kind regards,
Olivier
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Thank you for the endorsements, but I have some minor adjustments below in red. The end may be a little self serving, however it is necessary that they understand the ignorance of this omission in achieving the objectives set out. Regards Cintra Sooknanan ====================================================================================================================
[INTRO] At-Large is the component of end-users, not business nor technical community within ICANN’s multi-stakeholder environment. At-Large is represented by the ALAC, which has been essential in driving development of the Internet by maintaining openness and ensuring accountability and transparency.
The ALAC lauds the French Presidency’s objective of the G8 to
- Improve everyone's access to the Internet; - Enable everyone to participate in global networks and promote respect for freedom of expression and opinion; - Improve security of the Internet and protection of individuals; - Recommend examination of the Internet's economic and technical challenges.[FNOTE1]
We recognise that several internet organizations (including ICANN, W3C, IAB and ISOC) have been invited to participate in the eG8 Forum (24-25 May, Paris) gathering the leaders of the Internet and acknowledge that the outcomes of this Forum will be submitted to the G8 itself for discussion.
Therefore, it is at odds with your objective and the equal-footing awarded to all Internet stakeholders, that the ALAC and other non-commercial actors (both of which promote and represent the end-users) were not invited to participate. This omission is particularly blatant, as participation of private sector appears to be tied to sponsorship.
We hope that the French Presidency will achieve success in its objectives but this will only be possible if it can understand and include the perspectives of all stakeholders, in particular that of the end-user being the Internet's consumer and driving force.
====================================================================================================================
[FNOTE1] http://www.g20-g8.com/g8-g20/g8/english/-fiches/the-internet-new-challenges....
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:57 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com>wrote:
Dear all,
I see that there is indeed support for an ALAC statement! A statement about the defence of the multi-stakeholder model is indeed possible. I would suggest that this needs to be no more than one paragraph - time is of the essence. Is anyone volunteering to put together a first draft? Also - does anyone have an idea about the channel through which we should send this statement and to whom? Kind regards,
Olivier Crépin-Leblond
On 15/05/2011 20:49, Carlton Samuels wrote :
A big +1!!!!
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Adam Peake <ajp@glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
Olivier, thanks.
But as Izumi mentions, this does not make multistakeholder. Which is a shame. Particularly as participation of private sector seems to be tied to sponsorship (pay and you get a chance to speak... really is a terrible step backwards.)
The multistakeholder environment has been essential in driving development of the Internet, particularly in maintiaing openness and ensuring accountability and transparency. Non-commercial actors have been crucial to this. Shame on the French Presidency for not understanding the thing it's proposing pontificate on.
(this little rant not aimed at the ALAC chair :-))
Adam
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond < ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Hello Joly,
On 13/05/2011 23:39, Joly MacFie wrote :
Who is attending on behalf of ICANN I wonder. Rod Beckstrom + Peter Dengate Thrush. Bertrand de la Chapelle also will be. There might be others. Kind regards,
Olivier
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Good afternoon: In general this draft is OK except that in the introduction the use of the verb in English "lauds" is not appropriate. It expresses excessive praise with ecclesiastical connotations. It is also quite archaic. Try again there. CW On 19 May 2011, at 16:22, Cintra Sooknanan wrote:
Thank you for the endorsements, but I have some minor adjustments below in red.
The end may be a little self serving, however it is necessary that they understand the ignorance of this omission in achieving the objectives set out.
Regards
Cintra Sooknanan
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
[INTRO] At-Large is the component of end-users, not business nor technical community within ICANN’s multi-stakeholder environment. At-Large is represented by the ALAC, which has been essential in driving development of the Internet by maintaining openness and ensuring accountability and transparency.
The ALAC lauds the French Presidency’s objective of the G8 to
- Improve everyone's access to the Internet; - Enable everyone to participate in global networks and promote respect for freedom of expression and opinion; - Improve security of the Internet and protection of individuals; - Recommend examination of the Internet's economic and technical challenges.[FNOTE1]
We recognise that several internet organizations (including ICANN, W3C, IAB and ISOC) have been invited to participate in the eG8 Forum (24-25 May, Paris) gathering the leaders of the Internet and acknowledge that the outcomes of this Forum will be submitted to the G8 itself for discussion.
Therefore, it is at odds with your objective and the equal-footing awarded to all Internet stakeholders, that the ALAC and other non- commercial actors (both of which promote and represent the end-users) were not invited to participate. This omission is particularly blatant, as participation of private sector appears to be tied to sponsorship.
We hope that the French Presidency will achieve success in its objectives but this will only be possible if it can understand and include the perspectives of all stakeholders, in particular that of the end- user being the Internet's consumer and driving force.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =====================================================================
[FNOTE1] http://www.g20-g8.com/g8-g20/g8/english/-fiches/the-internet-new-challenges....
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:57 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com
wrote:
Dear all,
I see that there is indeed support for an ALAC statement! A statement about the defence of the multi-stakeholder model is indeed possible. I would suggest that this needs to be no more than one paragraph - time is of the essence. Is anyone volunteering to put together a first draft? Also - does anyone have an idea about the channel through which we should send this statement and to whom? Kind regards,
Olivier Crépin-Leblond
On 15/05/2011 20:49, Carlton Samuels wrote :
A big +1!!!!
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Adam Peake <ajp@glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
Olivier, thanks.
But as Izumi mentions, this does not make multistakeholder. Which is a shame. Particularly as participation of private sector seems to be tied to sponsorship (pay and you get a chance to speak... really is a terrible step backwards.)
The multistakeholder environment has been essential in driving development of the Internet, particularly in maintiaing openness and ensuring accountability and transparency. Non-commercial actors have been crucial to this. Shame on the French Presidency for not understanding the thing it's proposing pontificate on.
(this little rant not aimed at the ALAC chair :-))
Adam
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond < ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Hello Joly,
On 13/05/2011 23:39, Joly MacFie wrote : > Who is attending on behalf of ICANN I wonder. Rod Beckstrom + Peter Dengate Thrush. Bertrand de la Chapelle also will be. There might be others. Kind regards,
Olivier
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Professional Draft. Good work. Dr.V.C.Vivekanandan Ministry of HRD IP Chair Professor NALSAR University of Law 3-5-874/18 Apollo Hospital Lane,Hyderguda,Hyderabad- 500029- India Director-Legal Information Institute of India www.liiofindia.org Director- Insitute of Global Internet Governance & Advocacy (GIGA) Adjunct Visiting Professor, University of Buffalo Business School, New York NomCom (Nominating Committee Member)ICANN Ph:+91-40-23210170/ Mobile-+91-9866050494 vivek@nalsarpro.org,personal:vivekvc2001@yahoo.co.in visit www.liiofindia.org- one stop free legal portal for Indian laws & Treaties ________________________________ From: Cintra Sooknanan <cintra.sooknanan@gmail.com> To: At-Large Worldwide <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Sent: Thu, 19 May, 2011 7:52:29 PM Subject: Re: [At-Large] eG8 Forum Thank you for the endorsements, but I have some minor adjustments below in red. The end may be a little self serving, however it is necessary that they understand the ignorance of this omission in achieving the objectives set out. Regards Cintra Sooknanan ====================================================================================================================
[INTRO] At-Large is the component of end-users, not business nor technical community within ICANN’s multi-stakeholder environment. At-Large is represented by the ALAC, which has been essential in driving development of the Internet by maintaining openness and ensuring accountability and transparency.
The ALAC lauds the French Presidency’s objective of the G8 to
- Improve everyone's access to the Internet; - Enable everyone to participate in global networks and promote respect for freedom of expression and opinion; - Improve security of the Internet and protection of individuals; - Recommend examination of the Internet's economic and technical challenges.[FNOTE1]
We recognise that several internet organizations (including ICANN, W3C, IAB and ISOC) have been invited to participate in the eG8 Forum (24-25 May, Paris) gathering the leaders of the Internet and acknowledge that the outcomes of this Forum will be submitted to the G8 itself for discussion.
Therefore, it is at odds with your objective and the equal-footing awarded to all Internet stakeholders, that the ALAC and other non-commercial actors (both of which promote and represent the end-users) were not invited to participate. This omission is particularly blatant, as participation of private sector appears to be tied to sponsorship.
We hope that the French Presidency will achieve success in its objectives but this will only be possible if it can understand and include the perspectives of all stakeholders, in particular that of the end-user being the Internet's consumer and driving force.
==================================================================================================================== =
[FNOTE1] http://www.g20-g8.com/g8-g20/g8/english/-fiches/the-internet-new-challenges.... l
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:57 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com>wrote:
Dear all,
I see that there is indeed support for an ALAC statement! A statement about the defence of the multi-stakeholder model is indeed possible. I would suggest that this needs to be no more than one paragraph - time is of the essence. Is anyone volunteering to put together a first draft? Also - does anyone have an idea about the channel through which we should send this statement and to whom? Kind regards,
Olivier Crépin-Leblond
On 15/05/2011 20:49, Carlton Samuels wrote :
A big +1!!!!
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Adam Peake <ajp@glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
Olivier, thanks.
But as Izumi mentions, this does not make multistakeholder. Which is a shame. Particularly as participation of private sector seems to be tied to sponsorship (pay and you get a chance to speak... really is a terrible step backwards.)
The multistakeholder environment has been essential in driving development of the Internet, particularly in maintiaing openness and ensuring accountability and transparency. Non-commercial actors have been crucial to this. Shame on the French Presidency for not understanding the thing it's proposing pontificate on.
(this little rant not aimed at the ALAC chair :-))
Adam
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond < ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Hello Joly,
On 13/05/2011 23:39, Joly MacFie wrote :
Who is attending on behalf of ICANN I wonder. Rod Beckstrom + Peter Dengate Thrush. Bertrand de la Chapelle also will be. There might be others. Kind regards,
Olivier
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My Suggetion would be Bertrand! Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados IT Trend Alameda Santos 1470 1407,8 01418-903 São Paulo,SP, Brasil Tel + 5511 3266.6253 Mob + 55118181.1464 -----Mensagem original----- De: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond Enviada em: quinta-feira, 19 de maio de 2011 05:58 Para: At-Large Worldwide Assunto: Re: [At-Large] eG8 Forum Dear all, I see that there is indeed support for an ALAC statement! A statement about the defence of the multi-stakeholder model is indeed possible. I would suggest that this needs to be no more than one paragraph - time is of the essence. Is anyone volunteering to put together a first draft? Also - does anyone have an idea about the channel through which we should send this statement and to whom? Kind regards, Olivier Crépin-Leblond On 15/05/2011 20:49, Carlton Samuels wrote :
A big +1!!!!
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On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Adam Peake <ajp@glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
Olivier, thanks.
But as Izumi mentions, this does not make multistakeholder. Which is a shame. Particularly as participation of private sector seems to be tied to sponsorship (pay and you get a chance to speak... really is a terrible step backwards.)
The multistakeholder environment has been essential in driving development of the Internet, particularly in maintiaing openness and ensuring accountability and transparency. Non-commercial actors have been crucial to this. Shame on the French Presidency for not understanding the thing it's proposing pontificate on.
(this little rant not aimed at the ALAC chair :-))
Adam
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Hello Joly,
On 13/05/2011 23:39, Joly MacFie wrote :
Who is attending on behalf of ICANN I wonder. Rod Beckstrom + Peter Dengate Thrush. Bertrand de la Chapelle also will be. There might be others. Kind regards,
Olivier
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Thanks Vanda, just to let you, I have already emailed Bertrand about this and am awaiting a reply. I am also actively trying to establish what channel to pursue in order to convey this message to the right people. As for the statement, I have asked Seth to create a Wiki page and open comments until Monday 24 May 2011, 10:00 UTC in time for us to be able to amend it and send it. Kind regards, Olivier Le 19/05/2011 18:04, Vanda UOL a écrit :
My Suggetion would be Bertrand!
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-----Mensagem original----- De: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond Enviada em: quinta-feira, 19 de maio de 2011 05:58 Para: At-Large Worldwide Assunto: Re: [At-Large] eG8 Forum
Dear all,
I see that there is indeed support for an ALAC statement! A statement about the defence of the multi-stakeholder model is indeed possible. I would suggest that this needs to be no more than one paragraph - time is of the essence. Is anyone volunteering to put together a first draft? Also - does anyone have an idea about the channel through which we should send this statement and to whom? Kind regards,
Olivier Crépin-Leblond
On 15/05/2011 20:49, Carlton Samuels wrote :
A big +1!!!!
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Adam Peake <ajp@glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
Olivier, thanks.
But as Izumi mentions, this does not make multistakeholder. Which is a shame. Particularly as participation of private sector seems to be tied to sponsorship (pay and you get a chance to speak... really is a terrible step backwards.)
The multistakeholder environment has been essential in driving development of the Internet, particularly in maintiaing openness and ensuring accountability and transparency. Non-commercial actors have been crucial to this. Shame on the French Presidency for not understanding the thing it's proposing pontificate on.
(this little rant not aimed at the ALAC chair :-))
Adam
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Hello Joly,
On 13/05/2011 23:39, Joly MacFie wrote :
Who is attending on behalf of ICANN I wonder. Rod Beckstrom + Peter Dengate Thrush. Bertrand de la Chapelle also will be. There might be others. Kind regards,
Olivier
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participants (11)
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Adam Peake -
carlos dionisio aguirre -
Carlton Samuels -
Christopher Wilkinson -
Cintra Sooknanan -
Izumi AIZU -
Joly MacFie -
Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond -
Thompson, Darlene -
Vanda UOL -
vivek anannd