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For your information Rudi Vansnick President/CEO Internet Society Belgium Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Brussels LE/Registrar/Registry Meeting -February 24-25, 2011 From: "Cedric Laurant" <cedric@LAURANT.ORG> Date: Wed, February 23, 2011 12:18 pm To: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does anyone know about this meeting? Cedric ---
From: Bobby Flaim <rflaim [at] stas.fbi.gov> Subject: Brussels LE/Registrar/Registry Meeting -February 24-25, 2011
Dear All, In coordination with the European Commission, Directorate-General Home Affairs and gTLD Registrar Constituency, we are convening the second Law Enforcement(LE)-Registrar-Registry AND RIPE NCC/ARIN Meeting on February 24-25, 2011 in Brussels, Belgium. Our first meeting was in Washington, DC on September 28, 2010 and one of our objectives was to continue the dialog in Europe. The goal of this second meeting is to not only discuss the relevant issues begun in Washington, DC in September but to focus on the concerns of European LE/Registrars, including ccTLDs. In addition, to highlight LE's efforts across the entire Internet spectrum, we have dedicated a half-day session for the European and American Regional Internet Registries (RIR), RIPE NCC and ARIN, to discuss the parallel LE/RIR due diligence IP addressing efforts. Below is the location, dates, times and tentative agenda: Dates: February 24-25, 2011 Location: Albert Borschette Conference Centre (CCAB) , Rue Froissart 36, 1040 Bruxelles, Belgium Agenda: Day 1 - February 24, 2011 - Thursday - Domain Name System 9:00-9:30 - Welcome/Introductions 9:30-10:30 - Review of LE Due Diligence Recommendations to ICANN and Registrar SOP - the LE Recommendations will be discussed at the next ICANN meeting in San Francisco, March 14-18, 2011. 10:30-10:45 - Break 10:45-11:30 - Review of LE Due Diligence Recommendations to ICANN and Registrar SOP (continued) 11:30-12:30: New gTLD process - Latest Draft Applicant Book and Economic Study 12:30-13:30 - Lunch 13:30-14:30 - EU LE-Registrar Concerns - EU LE case examples of DNS abuse - Examples from EU registrar and a registry on the spectrum of issues they are addressing for EU LE and what LE could do to make those issues go more smoothly 14:30- 15:30 - EU Registrars - How do they handle EU and US requests 15:30-15:45 - Break 15:45-17:00 - ccTLD/CENTR - EU LE/ccTLD issues Day 2 - February 25, 2011 - Friday - Domain Name System and IP Addressing Morning Session - Domain Registrars/Registries 9:00-10:00 - US Online Pharmaceutical Initiative - The US just developed a voluntary procedure to takedown counterfeit online pharmaceuticals, could that be used to encompass all online criminal domain name registrations? 10:00-11:00 - Industry Bad Actors - Case Examples 11:00-11:15 - Break 11:15-12:15 - Summary - Steps Forward, Upcoming ICANN Meeting in San Francisco, March 14th 12:15-13:30 - Lunch Afternoon Session - Regional Internet Registries -RIPE NCC and ARIN 13:30 - 14:00 Introduction of RIR system - Short introduction on the system 14:00 - 15:00 IPv6 hour - presentation on IPv4 vs. IPv6 - presentation and discussion on RIR IPv6 policies 15:00- 15:30 Break 15:30 - 17:00 Due diligence, fraud/abuse investigations and investigation tools - Fraud investigations (ARIN) - RIR investigation tools (RIPE NCC) 17:00 - 17:30 RIR / LEA cooperation - Cybercrime Working Party If there are law enforcement agencies, registrars or registries that are not on this email and would like to attend, please pass them this announcement. Thank you and we greatly look forward to your participation!! Bobby Please RSVP to either of the following so we can ensure logistics: Radomír JANSKÝ European Commission Directorate-General Home Affairs Directorate A.2 Fight against Organised Crime Office LX46 3/146 1049 Brussels, Belgium Tel: +32.2.295.06.55 Fax: +32.2.296.76.33 E-mail: <mailto:radomir.jansky@ec.europa.eu>radomir.jansky [at] ec.europa.eu Or
Supervisory Special Agent Bobby Flaim Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Operational Technology Division/Technical Liaison Unit Work: +1-703-985-2555 Mobile: +1- 581-437-3728
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Thankyou, Rudi. Well spotted. (I had no prior information either.) I shall go the meeting tomorrow morning. I cannot stay beyond that because I am travelling tomorrow afternoon. Who is going from ICANN? Regards, Christopher. On 23 Feb 2011, at 12:43, Rudi Vansnick wrote:
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Rudi Vansnick President/CEO Internet Society Belgium Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16
---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Brussels LE/Registrar/Registry Meeting -February 24-25, 2011 From: "Cedric Laurant" <cedric@LAURANT.ORG> Date: Wed, February 23, 2011 12:18 pm To: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Does anyone know about this meeting? Cedric ---
From: Bobby Flaim <rflaim [at] stas.fbi.gov> Subject: Brussels LE/Registrar/Registry Meeting -February 24-25, 2011
Dear All, In coordination with the European Commission, Directorate-General Home Affairs and gTLD Registrar Constituency, we are convening the second Law Enforcement(LE)-Registrar-Registry AND RIPE NCC/ARIN Meeting on February 24-25, 2011 in Brussels, Belgium. Our first meeting was in Washington, DC on September 28, 2010 and one of our objectives was to continue the dialog in Europe. The goal of this second meeting is to not only discuss the relevant issues begun in Washington, DC in September but to focus on the concerns of European LE/Registrars, including ccTLDs. In addition, to highlight LE's efforts across the entire Internet spectrum, we have dedicated a half-day session for the European and American Regional Internet Registries (RIR), RIPE NCC and ARIN, to discuss the parallel LE/RIR due diligence IP addressing efforts. Below is the location, dates, times and tentative agenda: Dates: February 24-25, 2011 Location: Albert Borschette Conference Centre (CCAB) , Rue Froissart 36, 1040 Bruxelles, Belgium Agenda: Day 1 - February 24, 2011 - Thursday - Domain Name System 9:00-9:30 - Welcome/Introductions 9:30-10:30 - Review of LE Due Diligence Recommendations to ICANN and Registrar SOP - the LE Recommendations will be discussed at the next ICANN meeting in San Francisco, March 14-18, 2011. 10:30-10:45 - Break 10:45-11:30 - Review of LE Due Diligence Recommendations to ICANN and Registrar SOP (continued) 11:30-12:30: New gTLD process - Latest Draft Applicant Book and Economic Study 12:30-13:30 - Lunch 13:30-14:30 - EU LE-Registrar Concerns - EU LE case examples of DNS abuse - Examples from EU registrar and a registry on the spectrum of issues they are addressing for EU LE and what LE could do to make those issues go more smoothly 14:30- 15:30 - EU Registrars - How do they handle EU and US requests 15:30-15:45 - Break 15:45-17:00 - ccTLD/CENTR - EU LE/ccTLD issues Day 2 - February 25, 2011 - Friday - Domain Name System and IP Addressing Morning Session - Domain Registrars/Registries 9:00-10:00 - US Online Pharmaceutical Initiative - The US just developed a voluntary procedure to takedown counterfeit online pharmaceuticals, could that be used to encompass all online criminal domain name registrations? 10:00-11:00 - Industry Bad Actors - Case Examples 11:00-11:15 - Break 11:15-12:15 - Summary - Steps Forward, Upcoming ICANN Meeting in San Francisco, March 14th 12:15-13:30 - Lunch Afternoon Session - Regional Internet Registries -RIPE NCC and ARIN 13:30 - 14:00 Introduction of RIR system - Short introduction on the system 14:00 - 15:00 IPv6 hour - presentation on IPv4 vs. IPv6 - presentation and discussion on RIR IPv6 policies 15:00- 15:30 Break 15:30 - 17:00 Due diligence, fraud/abuse investigations and investigation tools - Fraud investigations (ARIN) - RIR investigation tools (RIPE NCC) 17:00 - 17:30 RIR / LEA cooperation - Cybercrime Working Party If there are law enforcement agencies, registrars or registries that are not on this email and would like to attend, please pass them this announcement. Thank you and we greatly look forward to your participation!! Bobby Please RSVP to either of the following so we can ensure logistics: Radomír JANSKÝ European Commission Directorate-General Home Affairs Directorate A.2 Fight against Organised Crime Office LX46 3/146 1049 Brussels, Belgium Tel: +32.2.295.06.55 Fax: +32.2.296.76.33 E-mail: <mailto:radomir.jansky@ec.europa.eu>radomir.jansky [at] ec.europa.eu Or
Supervisory Special Agent Bobby Flaim Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Operational Technology Division/Technical Liaison Unit Work: +1-703-985-2555 Mobile: +1- 581-437-3728
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Good evening: As I understand it there will be an important meeting early next week in Brussels which may influence what ICANN does with the new gTLD process. For those of you who will be present, I would recommend the following line: 1. To disaggregate the process. First, to give priority to the IDN applications. Secondly to separate the public interest, linguistic/ cultural and geographical/city proposals from all the rest. Thirdly to address the <.brand> issues as an entirely distinct process where, with WIPO, the related competition and trademark issues can be considered; i.e. postpone. Fourth, to address the <.generic> proposals: these may be supported provided that they are associated with a rigorous registration policy, subject to public consultation. i.e. not to postpone, but they will take longer. 2. Regarding Vertical Integration, I have seen nothing which would lead me to amend the posting which I made last August, and which for some reason has not been cited in any of the ICANN Briefing Papers: http://forum.icann.org/lists/vi-pdp-initial-report/pdfFZQIl7H2Er.pdf In short, the attempt last year within GNSO to associate the new gTLD process with backward integration between Registrars and Registries has (a) caused a breakdown in the bottom-up consensus process (b) been a cause of further delay and (c) flies in the face of ICANN's mandate as the custodian of competition policy in the DNS. No. I shall post this message to the Lists with which I am associated: At Large, Governance, ISOC. With regards to you all, CW
On point 1, I agree. It's a shame to see these types of interests hogtied by the wider issues. On point 2, it does seem that VI should be addressed before a wide rollout, or 1) it would be too late, and 2) the uncertainty would screw up investment models. j On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Christopher Wilkinson < cw@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:
Good evening:
As I understand it there will be an important meeting early next week in Brussels which may influence what ICANN does with the new gTLD process. For those of you who will be present, I would recommend the following line:
1. To disaggregate the process. First, to give priority to the IDN applications. Secondly to separate the public interest, linguistic/ cultural and geographical/city proposals from all the rest. Thirdly to address the <.brand> issues as an entirely distinct process where, with WIPO, the related competition and trademark issues can be considered; i.e. postpone. Fourth, to address the <.generic> proposals: these may be supported provided that they are associated with a rigorous registration policy, subject to public consultation. i.e. not to postpone, but they will take longer.
2. Regarding Vertical Integration, I have seen nothing which would lead me to amend the posting which I made last August, and which for some reason has not been cited in any of the ICANN Briefing Papers:
http://forum.icann.org/lists/vi-pdp-initial-report/pdfFZQIl7H2Er.pdf
In short, the attempt last year within GNSO to associate the new gTLD process with backward integration between Registrars and Registries has (a) caused a breakdown in the bottom-up consensus process (b) been a cause of further delay and (c) flies in the face of ICANN's mandate as the custodian of competition policy in the DNS. No.
I shall post this message to the Lists with which I am associated: At Large, Governance, ISOC.
With regards to you all,
CW
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Rudi Vansnick