Documents and Draft Agenda for ALAC Monthly Teleconference, 8th April 2008
Dear All: As many of you may be aware, the Staff made a commitment to post all documents related to teleconferences not less than 7 days in advance of meetings (where this is possible), which is by way of assisting the Chair in conforming with Rule 13.2 of the ALAC Rules of Procedure, as well as for the advance preparation of Members for meetings. We are therefore pleased to provide details, including all documents presently available, for the upcoming April 8th teleconference of the At-Large Advisory Committee. These details may be reviewed at: https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?8_april_2008. Would committee members also review the dial-outs to ensure we have a dial out listed if you are expecting one. The Chair has asked that we remind ALAC Liaisons and Working Group leaders to provide your written monthly reports on the mailing list in advance of the meeting. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff@atlarge.icann.org
At-Large Staff wrote:
Dear All:
As many of you may be aware, the Staff made a commitment to post all documents related to teleconferences not less than 7 days in advance of meetings (where this is possible), which is by way of assisting the Chair in conforming with Rule 13.2 of the ALAC Rules of Procedure, as well as for the advance preparation of Members for meetings.
We are therefore pleased to provide details, including all documents presently available, for the upcoming April 8th teleconference of the At-Large Advisory Committee. These details may be reviewed at: https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?8_april_2008.
I appreciate document creation, but the dissemination and use for communication leaves a lot to be desired. Now it seems that we're using the worst of all technology worlds -- documents aren't being circulated, nor are they being posted in formats that lend themselves to discussion by editing. Since I'd presume the goal of posting documents is to encourage At-Large community discussion and revision to make those documents conform to the wishes of the at-large community, I strongly urge that they be circulated IN TEXT and/or posted IN TEXT to the wiki as pages that the Committee and community can edit and comment upon. I've wikified the draft "Draft Statement on the FY 2008/2009 Budget and Operating Plan Framework" here, and edited it. I hope others will use <https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?draft_statement_on_the_fy_2008_2009_budg...> to update or comment on these edits. I include the full text of that page below. The original is there as "Revision 2," and a comparison showing my first round of suggested edits is <https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?action=revision_compare&page_name=draft_...> At-Large Advisory Committee Statement to the ICANN Board on the Draft Operating Plan for FY 2008/2009 We welcome the opportunity to make our comments on the Draft Operating Plan and Budget Framerwork for FY 2008/2009. Firstly, we endorse the change to the budgeting and operational planning process introduced this year. It seems to us that the combination of the consultation on these obviously closely-related issues is eminently sensible. We also welcome the longer public consultation timelines that this allows. Since this is the first stage of this process, our comments are introductory. We provide them at this early stage so that they may be taken into account as the Staff prepare the Budget and Operating Plan for its first iteration consultation. Our comments, therefore, are primarily related to the various “Activites/Outcomes by Initiative”. We do not propose to comment on each of these, but on those most important to the At-Large Community. IDN Activities This is a very important area of work for At-Large – and also for all of ICANN. The extra funding and greatly increased ICANN activity in this area is therefore welcomed. We would like to emphasise the element of communications related to IDNs. Fundamental choices that will affect the many communities that do not rely upon the latin character set will be made in the next few years. For that reason, we believe ICANN, in partnership with other stakeholders of course, needs to make a substantial, sustained, greatly increased effort to communicate with these communities –to ensure that the message about the choices to be made related to IDNs in the forthcoming period reaches a far larger pool of potential contributors to the process than is currently aware and participating. This should not simply take the form of translated press releases but really a well-thought-out media campaign which ‘reaches out’ to the public. We know that efforts to do this work exist – we wish to emphasise that this is extremely important. Implement Policy for New gTLDs We urge the board to act quickly to approve a simple, straightforward procedure for addition of new gTLDs in IDNs and ASCII character sets. Compliance Activities We note the increase in staffing and staff work related to compliance. We are pleased to see that the budget framerwork proposes further considerable investment in this area. However we wish to note what we see as gaps: The public relies on ICANN to enforce its contracts with registries and registrars, since ICANN has apparently preempted the public's ability to sue on those contracts to enforce its rights. ICANN should both return some of these rights to the public beneficiaries of its contracts /and/ ensure that contractual promises to ICANN are being honored. Complaints Processing. We note that there is now some information on how registrants can complain on the website, which is a welcome improvement. We also note that there is a provision as a headline activity in the Operational Plan Framework to “Implement Compaints Process System to address complaints and forward them to correct parties as approved”. This is a start but is not nearly enough – such a system needs to also verify whether or not the forwarded complaints were addressed, and provide options so that the complainant can easily report whether or not they are satisfied with the result. The underlying philosophy should be that, as the contractor, ICANN should ensure that the contractees are living up to their side of the ‘deal’ and completely offloading complaints to the contractee – or anyone else – is the wrong approach. Global Outreach This is a particularly important area to us. The various communities in ICANN are not nearly representative enough of the worldwide Internet-using community. We note the initial provision of a substantial increase in funds allocated to Global Outreach – we will look forward to seeing more detail about precisely what this consists of when the draft budget is posted. However, we note that on page 23 of the Draft Framework, under Global Outreach, there is a major area of work listed as ‘Implement business engagement outreach’. If this is intended to be outreach only to business communities, this is far too narrow – outreach efforts and recruitment efforts need to be even-handed, global – and to all communities and potential participant communities, not just business. We draw the attention of the board to the many comments about the importance of dramatically increasing the outreach and recruitment of stakeholders that was such a common theme of the respondents to the JPA review recently held; clearly, there is broad support for greatly increased work by ICANN in these respects. Of course we welcome the continued support for participation by our community from ICANN. Without it the Internet end-user’s voice will simply not be adequately represented. We draw your attention to our statement to you in relation to the development of a volunteer travel and expense support policy, in document AL.ALAC/BUD.SC/0308/2 accessible at <insert url here> for elaboration on our views on this subject. Policy Development Support We welcome the major theme associated with this area of work on page 25, that ICANN will “provide additional secretariat support to SOs, constituencies and ACs to make volunteer efforts more effective.” We are beneficiaries of this, in the addition of two members of staff on the At-Large team. The filling of these long-open positions is already beginning to increase our capacity for working effectively. We hope that the kind of support our community receives of this kind will become generally available across the constituencies and communities and look forward to seeing the detailed plans for how the objective listed in this area is to be achieved. Registrant Protections Whilst we welcome the increased activity in this area, we wish the board to be seized of the fact that the RAA review process appears to have ceased operation. We hear anecdotally that there is current work in this area inside ICANN, but it is not visible to us (or anyone else from what we can tell). This is a very important area of work for ICANN and to our community. We believe that there should be deadlines set for concluding work on the RAA. Transcription and Translation Our community has been calling for ICANN to become a truly multilingual organisation for years now. We are glad to see the increased budget commitment, draft translation framework, and other moves in this direction but we wish to remind you that ICANN has a very, very long way to go to reach the mission that the translation programme proposes. In our opinion, this area of work is of absolutely central importance to the organisation’s credibility, as we do not believe that any consultation or policy development process conducted entirely in English is globally legitimate. This is especially true with subjects like IDNs that – incredibly –continue to be largely english-only, with multiligual documents provided only in some cases, often far later than the original English versions, and only as an afterthought. Ensuring that the work of ICANN becomes truly multilingual is a core, critical objective. It must not be sidelined, or de-emphasised by other objectives like new gTLDs. Broaden Participation This area is of great importance – not just to our community but to all communities. In particular, whilst the provisions for teleconferences for our community have improved marginally by changing vendors, we do not believe that it makes sense to continue to outsource this core communications function and so we welcome the news that ICANN proposes to purchase a truly fit-for-purpose system to facilitate telephonic interactions. We hope that in doing so choices will be made which truly facilitate equal access and quality for all participants, regardless of where they might be. In particular, the new system must provide for the technical operation of simultaneous interpretation on teleconferences. This is an absolutely essential function, not something that is “nice to have”. We would also like to emphasise to broadening participation of effective remote participation in meetings, of which telephonic two-way participation is only one element. We believe that the current remote participation modalities for ICANN meetings are not fit for purpose. We draw your attention to our statement to you in relation to the development of a volunteer travel and expense support policy, in document AL.ALAC/BUD.SC/0308/2 accessible at <insert url here> for elaboration on our views on the subject of remote participation, and meetings. In closing, we thank the board in advance for its consideration of our views. We look forward to a response to our concerns and recommendations in due course. -- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org Visiting Professor, Northeastern University School of Law Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/
Dear Wendy: Many thanks for your comments. We would of course be happy to create wiki pages of all of these texts if the community wishes us to do so. However, with respect to emailing out texts either as attachments or in the body of emails, since those on low-bandwidth connections have made it clear that this is a real problem for them we have refrained from taking either of these steps. We are also aware that in some areas, community members must not only live with low-bandwidth connections, but must also pay for the bandwidth that they do use. For these reasons, it is our hope is that those of you who are fortunate enough to have broadband connections would be able to live with visiting URLs to retrieve documents, instead of insisting on increasing the bandwidth required for all participants by including the texts in the body of emails, or as attachments. Of course, if the community wishes to decide to standardise on one kind of method of transmission over another, we would be happy to accommodate those wishes. In deference to those on low-bandwidth connections we have truncated the message below - apologies in advance is this is disagreeable. On 02/04/2008 16:23, "Wendy Seltzer" <wendy@seltzer.com> wrote: At-Large Staff wrote:
Dear All:
As many of you may be aware, the Staff made a commitment to post all documents related to teleconferences not less than 7 days in advance of meetings (where this is possible), which is by way of assisting the Chair in conforming with Rule 13.2 of the ALAC Rules of Procedure, as well as for the advance preparation of Members for meetings.
We are therefore pleased to provide details, including all documents presently available, for the upcoming April 8th teleconference of the At-Large Advisory Committee. These details may be reviewed at: https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?8_april_2008.
I appreciate document creation, but the dissemination and use for communication leaves a lot to be desired. Now it seems that we're using the worst of all technology worlds -- documents aren't being circulated, nor are they being posted in formats that lend themselves to discussion by editing. Since I'd presume the goal of posting documents is to encourage At-Large community discussion and revision to make those documents conform to the wishes of the at-large community, I strongly urge that they be circulated IN TEXT and/or posted IN TEXT to the wiki as pages that the Committee and community can edit and comment upon. I've wikified the draft "Draft Statement on the FY 2008/2009 Budget and Operating Plan Framework" here, and edited it. I hope others will use <https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?draft_statement_on_the_fy_2008_2009_budg...> to update or comment on these edits. I include the full text of that page below. The original is there as "Revision 2," and a comparison showing my first round of suggested edits is <https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?action=revision_compare_name=draft_state... <https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?action=revision_compare&page_name=draft_...> > <SNIP> -- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org Visiting Professor, Northeastern University School of Law Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/ -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director for At-Large Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart
Nick Ashton-Hart wrote:
Many thanks for your comments. We would of course be happy to create wiki pages of all of these texts if the community wishes us to do so.
I'd love to see people discussing substance... anywhere! I think editable wiki pages would help.
However, with respect to emailing out texts either as attachments or in the body of emails, since those on low-bandwidth connections have made it clear that this is a real problem for them we have refrained from taking either of these steps. We are also aware that in some areas, community members must not only live with low-bandwidth connections, but must also pay for the bandwidth that they do use.
For these reasons, it is our hope is that those of you who are fortunate enough to have broadband connections would be able to live with visiting URLs to retrieve documents, instead of insisting on increasing the bandwidth required for all participants by including the texts in the body of emails, or as attachments. Of course, if the community wishes to decide to standardise on one kind of method of transmission over another, we would be happy to accommodate those wishes.
In deference to those on low-bandwidth connections we have truncated the message below - apologies in advance is this is disagreeable.
It is with some irony that I report that your "truncated" HTML message came in at the same 13 KB as my full post in text-only format. Text, unencumbered by extraneous markup, is quite efficient. I apologize to those on low-bandwidth connections, but I'd recommend you use a gateway to store and forward messages, rather than limiting the entire group's communications. We simply can't discuss texts effectively without sharing and editing the texts. Sadly, I haven't seen much evidence that we discuss texts or policies effectively, lately. --Wendy -- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org phone: +1.914.374.0613 // office: 617.373.7331 Visiting Professor, Northeastern University School of Law Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/
On 2 Apr 2008, at 16:36, Wendy Seltzer wrote:
Nick Ashton-Hart wrote:
Many thanks for your comments. We would of course be happy to create wiki pages of all of these texts if the community wishes us to do so.
I'd love to see people discussing substance... anywhere! I think editable wiki pages would help.
However, with respect to emailing out texts either as attachments or in the body of emails, since those on low-bandwidth connections have made it clear that this is a real problem for them we have refrained from taking either of these steps. We are also aware that in some areas, community members must not only live with low- bandwidth connections, but must also pay for the bandwidth that they do use.
For these reasons, it is our hope is that those of you who are fortunate enough to have broadband connections would be able to live with visiting URLs to retrieve documents, instead of insisting on increasing the bandwidth required for all participants by including the texts in the body of emails, or as attachments. Of course, if the community wishes to decide to standardise on one kind of method of transmission over another, we would be happy to accommodate those wishes.
I apologize to those on low-bandwidth connections, but I'd recommend you use a gateway to store and forward messages, rather than limiting the entire group's communications. We simply can't discuss texts effectively without sharing and editing the texts.
Agree. Pdf attachments as well as URLs should be a better way forward. Desiree --
Sadly, I haven't seen much evidence that we discuss texts or policies effectively, lately.
--Wendy
-- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org phone: +1.914.374.0613 // office: 617.373.7331 Visiting Professor, Northeastern University School of Law Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/
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