Re: [At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Reason for NO vote for Telecommunities Canada's ALS application
Danny: That is one way to interpret these provisions, but it is not the only way to do so. I refer you to the proposal presented to the ALAC in these respects some months ago, emailed to the At-Large regional lists, and due to be debated in San Juan. On 21/05/07, Danny Younger <dannyyounger@yahoo.com> wrote:
Luc,
The ICANN bylaws stipulate:
The criteria and standards for the certification of At-Large Structures shall be established in such a way that participation by individual Internet users who are citizens or residents of countries within the Geographic Region of the RALO will predominate in the operation of each At-Large Structure within the RALO
Telecommunities Canada describes itself as a sort of "holding company" comprised of multiple organizational members whose activities predominate in the operation of TC; individual Internet users (remember them?) are not the predominant factors in TC's operation (per their own admission).
Alan was correct in rejecting their application. The better question is why did others approve the application that was deficient on its face?
--- Luc Faubert <LFaubert@conceptum.ca> wrote:
Hi Alan,
May I ask why you voted NO for Telecommunities Canada's ALS application?
Telecommunities Canada is one of the (if not the) foremost organizations doing work related to the Internet in Canada. TC has been working tirelessly for almost 15 years, advancing the cause of Internet use and penetration in Canada.
Regards,
_________________________________________ Luc Faubert Conseiller en gouvernance TI et en gestion du changement / IT governance and change management consulting +1 514 236 5129 www.LucFaubert.com www.LucFaubert.com/blog www.isoc.qc.ca www.ccig.ca www.uqbm.qc.ca www.maillons.qc.ca
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Beyond the interpretation of the provision, an adequate understanding of what community networking is about is an important factor. One should look to the history of the practices and openness of TC. -MM On 5/21/07, Nick Ashton-Hart <nick.ashton-hart@icann.org> wrote:
Danny:
That is one way to interpret these provisions, but it is not the only way to do so. I refer you to the proposal presented to the ALAC in these respects some months ago, emailed to the At-Large regional lists, and due to be debated in San Juan.
On 21/05/07, Danny Younger <dannyyounger@yahoo.com> wrote:
Luc,
The ICANN bylaws stipulate:
The criteria and standards for the certification of At-Large Structures shall be established in such a way that participation by individual Internet users who are citizens or residents of countries within the Geographic Region of the RALO will predominate in the operation of each At-Large Structure within the RALO
Telecommunities Canada describes itself as a sort of "holding company" comprised of multiple organizational members whose activities predominate in the operation of TC; individual Internet users (remember them?) are not the predominant factors in TC's operation (per their own admission).
Alan was correct in rejecting their application. The better question is why did others approve the application that was deficient on its face?
--- Luc Faubert <LFaubert@conceptum.ca> wrote:
Hi Alan,
May I ask why you voted NO for Telecommunities Canada's ALS application?
Telecommunities Canada is one of the (if not the) foremost organizations doing work related to the Internet in Canada. TC has been working tirelessly for almost 15 years, advancing the cause of Internet use and penetration in Canada.
Regards,
_________________________________________ Luc Faubert Conseiller en gouvernance TI et en gestion du changement / IT governance and change management consulting +1 514 236 5129 www.LucFaubert.com www.LucFaubert.com/blog www.isoc.qc.ca www.ccig.ca www.uqbm.qc.ca www.maillons.qc.ca
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