Re: [At-Large] [RAA-WG] Fourth possibly final draft of RAA comments
On this subject, I suggested having an ombudsman-like scenario. Someone or something that independently fixes problems.
The two parties to the RAA are ICANN and the registrar. Is this an ombudsman to negotiate between them or between registrars and registrants? In the latter case, we're back to the third party beneficiary stuff.
2) WHOIS WHOIS should not be a publicly available database.
Registering a domain is not a license for registrants to harass Internet users anonymously. The publicly available WHOIS is an essential facility to protect the vast, vast majority of at-large users who have never registered a domain and never will.
Privacy laws do prevail in this circumstance.
Oh, then we agree, since as I would hope everyone was aware, the United States, where ICANN and the largest registrars are located, has no meaningful privacy laws. Needless to say, consensus on this point in this group is unlikely any time in the near future. R's, John
John L wrote:
2) WHOIS WHOIS should not be a publicly available database.
Registering a domain is not a license for registrants to harass Internet users anonymously. The publicly available WHOIS is an essential facility to protect the vast, vast majority of at-large users who have never registered a domain and never will.
I'd agree, though I still have reservations about some aspects of this. However, as has been noted here and elsewhere, whois is not a topic people can really agree on. It would be better for all parties concerned to not get too bogged down in it, as there are other points on which some level of consensus has been reached
Privacy laws do prevail in this circumstance.
Oh, then we agree, since as I would hope everyone was aware, the United States, where ICANN and the largest registrars are located, has no meaningful privacy laws.
Very true
Needless to say, consensus on this point in this group is unlikely any time in the near future.
Also agreed. -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting & Colocation, Brand Protection http://www.blacknight.ie/ http://blog.blacknight.ie/ Tel. 1850 929 929 Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Fax. +353 (0) 1 4811 763 ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845
Just a reminder that the original deadline for this to be sent was 10th September. Is the text likely to be transmissible imminently? On 17 Sep 2007, at 09:56, Michele Neylon :: Blacknight wrote:
John L wrote:
2) WHOIS WHOIS should not be a publicly available database.
Registering a domain is not a license for registrants to harass Internet users anonymously. The publicly available WHOIS is an essential facility to protect the vast, vast majority of at-large users who have never registered a domain and never will.
I'd agree, though I still have reservations about some aspects of this. However, as has been noted here and elsewhere, whois is not a topic people can really agree on. It would be better for all parties concerned to not get too bogged down in it, as there are other points on which some level of consensus has been reached
Privacy laws do prevail in this circumstance.
Oh, then we agree, since as I would hope everyone was aware, the United States, where ICANN and the largest registrars are located, has no meaningful privacy laws.
Very true
Needless to say, consensus on this point in this group is unlikely any time in the near future.
Also agreed.
-- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting & Colocation, Brand Protection http://www.blacknight.ie/ http://blog.blacknight.ie/ Tel. 1850 929 929 Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Fax. +353 (0) 1 4811 763 ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845
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