Comment on the PPSAI policy document
Dear At-Large Community Members, Please find attached ApTI's comment regarding ICANN's WHOIS privacy/proxy services proposal. We believe the new policy presents a serious danger to freedom of speech, privacy and to the rule of law on the Internet and we urge ICANN not to adopt this proposal. We are also working on publishing a summary of our comment. The public comment period is open until *7 Jul 2015 23:59 UTC. <http://http://www.timeanddate.com/time/aboututc.html>* Thank you, Valentina Pavel Asociația pentru Tehnologie și Internet - ApTI privacy.apti.ro <http://www.privacy.apti.ro> & apti.ro
Dear Valentina, thanks for this excellent contribution. As you mention, the public comment period is open until end of business day today... I really do not know why the ALAC comment period also closes on the same day - but this is all coming in at the very last moment. I have CC'ed Holly Raiche & Carlton Samuels (as well as ALAC Chair Alan Greenberg & ALAC Policy Staff) to see if your organisation's comments can be taken into account, perhaps with ALAC asking for a few more days from Mary Wong in order to formulate a response. Alas I have no say in the matter / process or substance. :-) Kindest regards, Olivier ps. my thoughts about the matter of WHOIS Privacy & Proxy is that WHOIS has become inappropriate for the task it is asked to perform. I am flabbergasted that the work of the Expert Working Group on gTLD Directory Services, published on https://www.icann.org/news/blog/ewg-recommends-a-replacement-for-whois is actually not being taken into account. It would save a lot of time from volunteers wasting time with WHOIS privacy/proxy now. On 07/07/2015 17:46, Valentina Pavel /ApTI wrote:
Dear At-Large Community Members,
Please find attached ApTI's comment regarding ICANN's WHOIS privacy/proxy services proposal.
We believe the new policy presents a serious danger to freedom of speech, privacy and to the rule of law on the Internet and we urge ICANN not to adopt this proposal.
We are also working on publishing a summary of our comment.
The public comment period is open until *7 Jul 2015 23:59 UTC. <http://http://www.timeanddate.com/time/aboututc.html>*
Thank you,
Valentina Pavel Asociația pentru Tehnologie și Internet - ApTI privacy.apti.ro <http://www.privacy.apti.ro> & apti.ro <http://apti.ro>
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Hello Great job Valentina. I can’t agree more with Olivier POV regarding whois vs new directory services. All the best Sébastien Bachollet +33 6 07 66 89 33 Blog: http://sebastien.bachollet.fr/ Mail: Sébastien Bachollet <sebastien@bachollet.com> De : <at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Olivier Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> Date : mardi 7 juillet 2015 11:52 À : Valentina Pavel /ApTI <valentina.pavel@apti.ro>, <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>, <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Cc : alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Objet : Re: [At-Large] [EURO-Discuss] Comment on the PPSAI policy document
Dear Valentina,
thanks for this excellent contribution.
As you mention, the public comment period is open until end of business day today... I really do not know why the ALAC comment period also closes on the same day - but this is all coming in at the very last moment. I have CC'ed Holly Raiche & Carlton Samuels (as well as ALAC Chair Alan Greenberg & ALAC Policy Staff) to see if your organisation's comments can be taken into account, perhaps with ALAC asking for a few more days from Mary Wong in order to formulate a response.
Alas I have no say in the matter / process or substance. :-)
Kindest regards,
Olivier
ps. my thoughts about the matter of WHOIS Privacy & Proxy is that WHOIS has become inappropriate for the task it is asked to perform. I am flabbergasted that the work of the Expert Working Group on gTLD Directory Services, published on https://www.icann.org/news/blog/ewg-recommends-a-replacement-for-whois is actually not being taken into account. It would save a lot of time from volunteers wasting time with WHOIS privacy/proxy now.
On 07/07/2015 17:46, Valentina Pavel /ApTI wrote:
Dear At-Large Community Members,
Please find attached ApTI's comment regarding ICANN's WHOIS privacy/proxy services proposal.
We believe the new policy presents a serious danger to freedom of speech, privacy and to the rule of law on the Internet and we urge ICANN not to adopt this proposal.
We are also working on publishing a summary of our comment.
The public comment period is open until 7 Jul 2015 23:59 UTC. <http://http://www.timeanddate.com/time/aboututc.html>
Thank you,
Valentina Pavel Asociația pentru Tehnologie și Internet - ApTI privacy.apti.ro <http://www.privacy.apti.ro> & apti.ro <http://apti.ro>
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Hello, EURALO: I believe things are moving on the EWG & WHOIS front: 1. [ https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-2015-04-26-en#1.f ] Next Steps for the EWG Final Report on Next Generation Registration Directory Services Whereas, in 2012, the Board adopted <https://features.icann.org/2012-11-08-whois-policy-review-team-report> a two-pronged approach to address the recommendations of the WHOIS Review Team, calling for ICANN to (i) continue to fully enforce existing consensus policy and contractual conditions relating to WHOIS, and (ii) create an expert working group to determine the fundamental purpose and objectives of collecting, maintaining and providing access to gTLD registration data, to serve as a foundation for a Board-initiated GNSO policy development process (PDP). Whereas, in 2014, the Expert Working Group on Next Generation Registration Directory Services (EWG) delivered its Final Report <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/final-report-06jun14-en.pdf> [PDF, 5.12 MB] to the Board with its recommended model and principles to serve as the foundation for the GNSO PDP. Whereas, an informal group of Board members and GNSO Councilors collaborated and developed a proposed framework <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/49359634/EWG-Process%20Grou...> [PDF, 612 KB] to provide guidance to the GNSO PDP for the examination of the EWG's recommended models and principles for the next generation registration directory services to replace WHOIS. Resolved (2015.04.26.09), the Board thanks the EWG for the significant effort and work exerted that produced the proposed model for a next generation registration directory services as reflected in its Final Report <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/final-report-06jun14-en.pdf> [PDF, 5.12 MB]. *Resolved (2015.04.26.10), the Board reaffirms its request for a Board-initiated GNSO policy development process to define the purpose of collecting, maintaining and providing access to gTLD registration data, and consider safeguards for protecting data, using the recommendations in the Final Report <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/final-report-06jun14-en.pdf> [PDF, 5.12 MB] as an input to, and, if appropriate, as the foundation for a new gTLD policy;* Resolved (2015.04.26.11), the Board directs that a new Preliminary Issue Report that follows this framework <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/49359634/EWG-Process%20Grou...> [PDF, 612 KB] be prepared and delivered to the GNSO; Resolved (2015.04.26.12), the Board commits to forming a group of Board members that will (i) liaise with the GNSO on the policy development process to examine the EWG's recommended model and propose policies to support the creation of the next generation registration directory services, and (ii) oversee the implementation of the remaining projects arising from the Action Plan <https://www.icann.org/en/about/aoc-review/whois/implementation-action-08nov1...> [PDF, 119 KB] adopted by the Board in response to the WHOIS Review Team's recommendations. The Board directs the Board Governance Committee to begin the process for identifying a recommendation of a slate of Board members to do this work. 2. The Board Governance Committee met on 20 June 2015 right before ICANN53 and decided on the group of Board members that would do the work stated in the resolution above. More information will be made available once the BGC meeting minutes are finalized and published. Best regards, Rinalia On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 12:52 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Dear Valentina,
thanks for this excellent contribution.
As you mention, the public comment period is open until end of business day today... I really do not know why the ALAC comment period also closes on the same day - but this is all coming in at the very last moment. I have CC'ed Holly Raiche & Carlton Samuels (as well as ALAC Chair Alan Greenberg & ALAC Policy Staff) to see if your organisation's comments can be taken into account, perhaps with ALAC asking for a few more days from Mary Wong in order to formulate a response.
Alas I have no say in the matter / process or substance. :-)
Kindest regards,
Olivier
ps. my thoughts about the matter of WHOIS Privacy & Proxy is that WHOIS has become inappropriate for the task it is asked to perform. I am flabbergasted that the work of the Expert Working Group on gTLD Directory Services, published on https://www.icann.org/news/blog/ewg-recommends-a-replacement-for-whois is actually not being taken into account. It would save a lot of time from volunteers wasting time with WHOIS privacy/proxy now.
On 07/07/2015 17:46, Valentina Pavel /ApTI wrote:
Dear At-Large Community Members,
Please find attached ApTI's comment regarding ICANN's WHOIS privacy/proxy services proposal.
We believe the new policy presents a serious danger to freedom of speech, privacy and to the rule of law on the Internet and we urge ICANN not to adopt this proposal.
We are also working on publishing a summary of our comment.
The public comment period is open until *7 Jul 2015 23:59 UTC. <http://http://www.timeanddate.com/time/aboututc.html>*
Thank you,
Valentina Pavel Asociația pentru Tehnologie și Internet - ApTI privacy.apti.ro <http://www.privacy.apti.ro> & apti.ro
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OCL: As one of those of us who spent the time working the EWG detail, the immediacy of the frustrations working shifts on the PPSAI and WHOIS Conflicts WGs is indeed remarkable. Take the WHOIS Conflicts and Waiver process. ICANN knows - or should know - that the RAA is conflicted with privacy laws in the several jurisdictions. Yet instead of dealing with the matter on a principled and comprehensive basis, it continues to apply one-by-one waivers to registrars for minding the law in their domiciled jurisdiction. This continuing situation beggars reason and good judgment. And is one of the issues the EWG's recommendations are intended to address. That the solution is within the reach of anyone who even thinks of this for a few minutes is incontestable. But yet we insist. Whenever I think of it, I recall the cartoon of Noah - he of that flood - in that [wooden] boat trying his damnedest to trap that woodpecker. We do it to ourselves. -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Dear Valentina,
thanks for this excellent contribution.
As you mention, the public comment period is open until end of business day today... I really do not know why the ALAC comment period also closes on the same day - but this is all coming in at the very last moment. I have CC'ed Holly Raiche & Carlton Samuels (as well as ALAC Chair Alan Greenberg & ALAC Policy Staff) to see if your organisation's comments can be taken into account, perhaps with ALAC asking for a few more days from Mary Wong in order to formulate a response.
Alas I have no say in the matter / process or substance. :-)
Kindest regards,
Olivier
ps. my thoughts about the matter of WHOIS Privacy & Proxy is that WHOIS has become inappropriate for the task it is asked to perform. I am flabbergasted that the work of the Expert Working Group on gTLD Directory Services, published on https://www.icann.org/news/blog/ewg-recommends-a-replacement-for-whois is actually not being taken into account. It would save a lot of time from volunteers wasting time with WHOIS privacy/proxy now.
On 07/07/2015 17:46, Valentina Pavel /ApTI wrote:
Dear At-Large Community Members,
Please find attached ApTI's comment regarding ICANN's WHOIS privacy/proxy services proposal.
We believe the new policy presents a serious danger to freedom of speech, privacy and to the rule of law on the Internet and we urge ICANN not to adopt this proposal.
We are also working on publishing a summary of our comment.
The public comment period is open until *7 Jul 2015 23:59 UTC. <http://http://www.timeanddate.com/time/aboututc.html>*
Thank you,
Valentina Pavel Asociația pentru Tehnologie și Internet - ApTI privacy.apti.ro <http://www.privacy.apti.ro> & apti.ro
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participants (5)
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Carlton Samuels -
Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond -
Rinalia Abdul Rahim -
Sébastien Bachollet -
Valentina Pavel /ApTI