Chuck and all my friends, Perhaps you haven't been paying close enough attention or have been otherwise distracted. Our organization are all Registrants and come from over 100+ countires. We are also very well self funded, BTW. Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827 "Gomes, Chuck" wrote:

I have always felt that registrant representation would be good but I have yet to see anyone come up with an effective way to make it happen that results in broad representation of the registrant community. I know I don't have to tell people on this list that the registrant population is hugely diverse and comes from all parts of the world.

As we get closer to GNSO improvements that will likely give increased representation to individuals via the non-commercial stakeholder group, this would be an excellent time for people to develop and propose a workable way to create a registrant constituency that truly does represent a broad base of non-commercial, individual gTLD registrants around world.

Chuck Gomes

-----Original Message----- From: owner-ga@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-ga@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Dominik Filipp Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 10:33 AM To: Peter Dengate Thrush; Danny Younger Cc: twomey@icann.org; ga@gnso.icann.org; At-Large Worldwide Subject: RE: [ga] Re: Proposal: Establishing a Registrant Advisory Committee

-----Original Message----- From: owner-ga@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-ga@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Peter Dengate Thrush Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 7:46 AM To: Danny Younger Cc: twomey@icann.org; ga@gnso.icann.org; At-Large Worldwide Subject: [ga] Re: Proposal: Establishing a Registrant Advisory Committee

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While ICANN has numerous advisory committees and supporting organizations whose responsibilities include putting forth the general registrant interest as a part of their duties, the sad reality has been that immediate registrant concerns rarely find a dedicated organizational advocate to spearhead policy development activities.

What is needed is an Advisory Body whose "sole focus" is upon the needs of the general registrant community whose funds support and drive the ICANN process.

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This may be a useful development. I should need to see it carefully distinguished, with advantages and disadvantages laid out and contested between the current user groups (Business and Non Commercial constituencies of GNSO), and the At Large

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I appreciate that registrants are not, as a group, necessarily a subset of "user", or of At Large, as it includes the domaineers who are registrants for trading and profit - is it their interests in particular that you feel are not being served by the current structure?

In fact, we need more than just a Registrant Advisory Committee. We need a fully-fledged Registrant Constituency with all the voting power. Why? For simple and logical reason. The Registrants stay on top of the financial chain generating income for ICANN. Without the need for domain names there would be no need for either Registries or Registrars or ISPs. Thus Registrants, though indirectly, is the very first gear wheel in the income machinery. The Registrant Constituency should have been the very first constituency established within the ICANN structures when ICANN was formed. And the most influential as it indeed deserves. Without such representation ICANN can barely hold its claim as being an advocate of all internet users or stakeholders.

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Regards

Dominik Filipp

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You can make this happen, and ICANN will benefit from such a contribution.

best regards, Danny Younger

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