Fwd: [NCSG-Discuss] Open letter to ICANN from the Legal Counsels of intergovernmental organizations
Don't think Bill will mind me forwarding this email. FYI. Adam ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: William Drake <william.drake@uzh.ch> Date: 2011/12/19 Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Open letter to ICANN from the Legal Counsels of intergovernmental organizations To: NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu Hi As expected, the UN and other public intergovernmental organizations are now demanding that their names and acronyms be protected---not only at the top, but the second level as well—"Consistent with the rationale for protection envisaged for the important causes represented by the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies and the International Olympic Committee." The door has been opened, why wouldn't they want to go through it? The letter is attached below. Kieren has an article on this at http://news.dot-nxt.com/2011/12/14/igos-special-gtld-exemption. While I agree with him that there is no chance of a TLD application with an international organization's name or acronym making it through the application process anyway, that the second level demand is problematic, and that the guidebook mechanisms would seem sufficient, it's not obvious that ICANN can easily tell these organizations to just chill out and expect them to go away. On last Thursday's Council call Wolfgang and I raised questions about how GNSO & ICANN would deal with this. There's a GNSO group being formed to work on the RC & IOC, but apparently no consideration of expanding its remit at this time. Clearly, there will have to be a broader discussion about the relative merits of transforming the Reserved Names list into a broad "rights protection" mechanism. GAC has argued that reserving RC & IOC are required by ICANN's public interest mandate; presumably we'll be hearing the same here. The intersection of the DNS and state-related claims raises a host of issues which NC may wish to consider and weigh in on. Best, Bill Begin forwarded message: *From: *Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> *Date: *December 18, 2011 12:49:08 PM GMT+01:00 *To: *GNSO Council <council@gnso.icann.org> *Subject: **[council] Fwd: Open letter to ICANN from the Legal Counsels of intergovernmental organisations (IGO's)* Councillors, In the context of our own discussions at the end of last week's meeting, please see below the message I was copied on last Friday. Stéphane Début du message réexpédié : *De : *<Nicola.BONUCCI@oecd.org> *Objet : **Open letter to ICANN from the Legal Counsels of intergovernmental organisations (IGO's)* *Date : *16 décembre 2011 18:00:27 HNEC *À : *<rod.beckstrom@icann.org>, <steve@shinkuro.com>, <kurt.pritz@icann.org
*Cc : *<gac@gac.icann.org>, <heather.dryden@ic.gc.ca>, <jeffrey@icann.org>, <amy.stathos@icann.org>, <Josee.FECTEAU@oecd.org>, < Alexandra.EXCOFFIER-NOSOV@oecd.org>, <Jill.SCHUKER@oecd.org>, < edward.kwakwa@wipo.int>, <bdelachapelle@gmail.com>, < stephane.vangelder@indom.com>, <ocl@gih.com>, <DL1516@oecd.org> Dear Sirs,**** ** ** Several additional International Organizations have signed on to the open letter transmitted to you on 13 December. You will find enclosed the same letter containing an updated list of signatories.**** ** ** We take this opportunity to also copy the letter to the GNSO President Stephane Van Gelder and the ALAC Chair Olivier Crepin-Leblond.**** ** ** Sincerely yours,**** ** ** ** ** **** *Nicola Bonucci *Director & Accession Coordinator / Directeur et coordonnateur de l’adhésion **** Directorate for Legal Affairs / Direction des affaires juridiques**** ** ** 2, rue André Pascal - 75775 Paris Cedex 16 Tel: +33 1 45 24 80 77 – Fax: +33 1 44 30 62 45**** nicola.bonucci@oecd.org <lisa.vonn@oecd.org> || www.oecd.org**** ** ** Follow us on: <http://www.facebook.com/theOECD> <http://www.facebook.com/theOECD> <http://www.youtube.com/oecd> <http://www.youtube.com/oecd> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/oecd> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/oecd> <http://twitter.com/OECDtweet> <http://twitter.com/OECDtweet>**** ** **
Here is what I posted about this development elsewhere. ==================================== I should think this is compelling that some legitimate interests are troubled by the existing new gTLD framework. Whether these interests are excluded on principle or by insufficient attention to detail or failure to engage - from both sides! - remains to be judged. Is there a reasonable case to be made by these IGOs? I think so. Is the remedy they offer fit for purpose? Maybe. Can the remedy be extended to an affirmation of a principle? Now, that is troubling! - Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Adam Peake <ajp@glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
Don't think Bill will mind me forwarding this email.
FYI.
Adam
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: William Drake <william.drake@uzh.ch> Date: 2011/12/19 Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Open letter to ICANN from the Legal Counsels of intergovernmental organizations To: NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu
Hi
As expected, the UN and other public intergovernmental organizations are now demanding that their names and acronyms be protected---not only at the top, but the second level as well—"Consistent with the rationale for protection envisaged for the important causes represented by the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies and the International Olympic Committee." The door has been opened, why wouldn't they want to go through it?
The letter is attached below. Kieren has an article on this at http://news.dot-nxt.com/2011/12/14/igos-special-gtld-exemption. While I agree with him that there is no chance of a TLD application with an international organization's name or acronym making it through the application process anyway, that the second level demand is problematic, and that the guidebook mechanisms would seem sufficient, it's not obvious that ICANN can easily tell these organizations to just chill out and expect them to go away.
On last Thursday's Council call Wolfgang and I raised questions about how GNSO & ICANN would deal with this. There's a GNSO group being formed to work on the RC & IOC, but apparently no consideration of expanding its remit at this time. Clearly, there will have to be a broader discussion about the relative merits of transforming the Reserved Names list into a broad "rights protection" mechanism. GAC has argued that reserving RC & IOC are required by ICANN's public interest mandate; presumably we'll be hearing the same here. The intersection of the DNS and state-related claims raises a host of issues which NC may wish to consider and weigh in on.
Best,
Bill
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*From: *Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> *Date: *December 18, 2011 12:49:08 PM GMT+01:00 *To: *GNSO Council <council@gnso.icann.org> *Subject: **[council] Fwd: Open letter to ICANN from the Legal Counsels of intergovernmental organisations (IGO's)*
Councillors,
In the context of our own discussions at the end of last week's meeting, please see below the message I was copied on last Friday.
Stéphane
Début du message réexpédié :
*De : *<Nicola.BONUCCI@oecd.org> *Objet : **Open letter to ICANN from the Legal Counsels of intergovernmental organisations (IGO's)* *Date : *16 décembre 2011 18:00:27 HNEC *À : *<rod.beckstrom@icann.org>, <steve@shinkuro.com>, < kurt.pritz@icann.org
*Cc : *<gac@gac.icann.org>, <heather.dryden@ic.gc.ca>, <jeffrey@icann.org
, <amy.stathos@icann.org>, <Josee.FECTEAU@oecd.org>, < Alexandra.EXCOFFIER-NOSOV@oecd.org>, <Jill.SCHUKER@oecd.org>, < edward.kwakwa@wipo.int>, <bdelachapelle@gmail.com>, < stephane.vangelder@indom.com>, <ocl@gih.com>, <DL1516@oecd.org>
Dear Sirs,**** ** ** Several additional International Organizations have signed on to the open letter transmitted to you on 13 December. You will find enclosed the same letter containing an updated list of signatories.**** ** ** We take this opportunity to also copy the letter to the GNSO President Stephane Van Gelder and the ALAC Chair Olivier Crepin-Leblond.**** ** ** Sincerely yours,**** ** ** ** **
**** *Nicola Bonucci *Director & Accession Coordinator / Directeur et coordonnateur de l’adhésion **** Directorate for Legal Affairs / Direction des affaires juridiques**** ** ** 2, rue André Pascal - 75775 Paris Cedex 16 Tel: +33 1 45 24 80 77 – Fax: +33 1 44 30 62 45**** nicola.bonucci@oecd.org <lisa.vonn@oecd.org> || www.oecd.org**** ** ** Follow us on: <http://www.facebook.com/theOECD>
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