Re: [At-Large] [IDN-WG] [APAC-Discuss] Draft Recommendations Overall Policy for the Selection of IDN ccTLD Strings PC
works for me ... but clearly O sort of biased :-):-):-) On Sep 24, 2012 12:59 PM, "Edmon Chung" <edmon@isoc.hk> wrote:
After reviewing the document I think we can proceed with a simple response commending the work and reiterating the importance of IDN IDN TLDs.
Most of the document reiterates the recommendations from the IDNC (for the fast track) with some additional adjustments based on the learning over the few years of its implementation (which have actually been addressed and updated to the latest IDN Fast Track document).
Edmon
-----Original Message----- From: idn-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: idn-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 12:03 PM To: Carlton Samuels Cc: apralo; idn-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org; At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [IDN-WG] [APAC-Discuss] [At-Large] Draft Recommendations Overall Policy for the Selection of IDN ccTLD Strings PC
Thanks Carlton.
If there are views from At Large on this, please let us know as discussions are underway within the ALAC IDN Working Group via its mailing list.
Kind Regards, Sala
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Carlton Samuels < carlton.samuels@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Sala: This is a question best answered by out IDN liaison. I shall be so advised.
Best, - Carlton
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On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
Thank you Matt for bringing it to our attention.
Does the ALAC need to make a statement on the Draft Recommendations Overall Policy for the Selection of IDN ccTLD Strings PC< https://community.icann.org/x/xYUoAg> is now open.
What are people's views on the Draft Recommendations?
Kind Regards
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Matt Ashtiani <matt.ashtiani@icann.org
wrote:
Dear Edmon,
I am following up on the email below. Can you please advise if you think a Statement on this PC is necessary.
Regards,
Matt Ashtiani
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ICANN
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From: Matt Ashtiani <matt.ashtiani@icann.org<mailto: matt.ashtiani@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:46 PM To: Edmon Chung <edmon@isoc.hk<mailto:edmon@isoc.hk>> Cc: Rinalia Abdul Rahim <rinalia.abdulrahim@gmail.com<mailto: rinalia.abdulrahim@gmail.com>>, "idn-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto: idn-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org>" <idn-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto: idn-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org>>, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond < ocl@gih.com <mailto:ocl@gih.com>>, ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>> Subject: Draft Recommendations Overall Policy for the Selection of IDN ccTLD Strings PC
Dear Edmon,
Please note that the Draft Recommendations Overall Policy for the Selection of IDN ccTLD Strings PC<https://community.icann.org/x/xYUoAg
is now open. Please advise if you think a Statement on this PC is necessary.
Regards,
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Hello everyone, Please find below a draft statement on the IDNccTLD String selection. The statement is meant to be short, commends the work and addresses the variants issue. Comments for fine tuning or addressing gaps are welcome. Best regards, Rinalia * * * * *DRAFT * *ALAC Statement on the Draft IDN ccTLD String Selection Criteria, Requirements and Processes Policy Recommendations* The At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) commends the International Domain Names (IDN) country code Policy Development Process Working Group 1 for the comprehensiveness of its draft policy recommendations on the IDN ccTLD String Selection Criteria, Requirements and Processes for territories listed in the ISO 3166-1 list. We note that the recommendations are based on the previous work of the IDNC Working Group and we are pleased to see that the recommendations reflect the learning drawn from the implementation of the IDNccTLD Fast Track Process over the past few years. We wish to reiterate the significance and importance of IDNs, including IDN Top Level Domains (TLDs) at both the generic and country code levels. We believe that IDNs are crucial for enhancing diversity and multilingualism on the Internet. We observe that the draft recommendations do not address the issue of variant TLDs and instead contain a placeholder in Section J, which points out that issues pertaining to the management of such TLDs are still being discussed in the ICANN community and will be added later. We believe that the draft recommendations should indicate that the issue of variants is urgent and need to be addressed in a timely manner. Concurrently, the draft recommendations should also affirm that the outcomes of the variants discussion pertaining to the Label Generation Ruleset (LGR) for the Root Zone would be binding and applicable to all TLDs (including ccTLDs), given that the overarching principle of the LGR process is the security and stability of the Root Zone, which is shared by all Internet users. END
Works for me can the ALAC consider it posted haste I wonder... On Sep 28, 2012 1:26 PM, "Rinalia Abdul Rahim" <rinalia.abdulrahim@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,
Please find below a draft statement on the IDNccTLD String selection. The statement is meant to be short, commends the work and addresses the variants issue. Comments for fine tuning or addressing gaps are welcome.
Best regards,
Rinalia
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*DRAFT *
*ALAC Statement on the Draft IDN ccTLD String Selection Criteria, Requirements and Processes Policy Recommendations*
The At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) commends the International Domain Names (IDN) country code Policy Development Process Working Group 1 for the comprehensiveness of its draft policy recommendations on the IDN ccTLD String Selection Criteria, Requirements and Processes for territories listed in the ISO 3166-1 list. We note that the recommendations are based on the previous work of the IDNC Working Group and we are pleased to see that the recommendations reflect the learning drawn from the implementation of the IDNccTLD Fast Track Process over the past few years.
We wish to reiterate the significance and importance of IDNs, including IDN Top Level Domains (TLDs) at both the generic and country code levels. We believe that IDNs are crucial for enhancing diversity and multilingualism on the Internet.
We observe that the draft recommendations do not address the issue of variant TLDs and instead contain a placeholder in Section J, which points out that issues pertaining to the management of such TLDs are still being discussed in the ICANN community and will be added later.
We believe that the draft recommendations should indicate that the issue of variants is urgent and need to be addressed in a timely manner. Concurrently, the draft recommendations should also affirm that the outcomes of the variants discussion pertaining to the Label Generation Ruleset (LGR) for the Root Zone would be binding and applicable to all TLDs (including ccTLDs), given that the overarching principle of the LGR process is the security and stability of the Root Zone, which is shared by all Internet users.
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Hi Rinalia While I do not purport to be an expert on IDN issues, this statement reads very well, is very clear and sets out our remaining concerns well. Holly On 28/09/2012, at 1:17 PM, Rinalia Abdul Rahim wrote:
Hello everyone,
Please find below a draft statement on the IDNccTLD String selection. The statement is meant to be short, commends the work and addresses the variants issue. Comments for fine tuning or addressing gaps are welcome.
Best regards,
Rinalia
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*DRAFT *
*ALAC Statement on the Draft IDN ccTLD String Selection Criteria, Requirements and Processes Policy Recommendations*
The At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) commends the International Domain Names (IDN) country code Policy Development Process Working Group 1 for the comprehensiveness of its draft policy recommendations on the IDN ccTLD String Selection Criteria, Requirements and Processes for territories listed in the ISO 3166-1 list. We note that the recommendations are based on the previous work of the IDNC Working Group and we are pleased to see that the recommendations reflect the learning drawn from the implementation of the IDNccTLD Fast Track Process over the past few years.
We wish to reiterate the significance and importance of IDNs, including IDN Top Level Domains (TLDs) at both the generic and country code levels. We believe that IDNs are crucial for enhancing diversity and multilingualism on the Internet.
We observe that the draft recommendations do not address the issue of variant TLDs and instead contain a placeholder in Section J, which points out that issues pertaining to the management of such TLDs are still being discussed in the ICANN community and will be added later.
We believe that the draft recommendations should indicate that the issue of variants is urgent and need to be addressed in a timely manner. Concurrently, the draft recommendations should also affirm that the outcomes of the variants discussion pertaining to the Label Generation Ruleset (LGR) for the Root Zone would be binding and applicable to all TLDs (including ccTLDs), given that the overarching principle of the LGR process is the security and stability of the Root Zone, which is shared by all Internet users.
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Hi, this is the paragraph I promise to draft to supplement our Statement. Any revision or comment is heartily welcome. Hong _______________________ We note that confusing similarity of IDN ccTLD strings is assessed according to the appearance of the selected string sufficiently close to one or more other strings so that it is probable that a reasonable Internet user "who is unfamiliar with the script would perceive the strings to be the same or confuse one for the other", although "linguistic, technical, and visual perception factors" will be taken into consideration. Notwithstanding the merit and rational of such assessment criterion, we concern that the assessment primarily based on appearance confusion of the strings deemed by the users unfamiliar with the script may not be consistent with the nature and purpose of IDN ccTLDs that is fundamentally put into use for the benefit of the local IDN users in pertinent ccTLD territories. Without sufficient linguistic factor being taken into account, some unreasonable results may occur. For example, an IDN ccTLD that is assessed as not confusingly similar by the user "who is unfamiliar with the script" may well be deemed confusingly similar by the local IDN users; vice verse. We do hope this issue could be addressed in the policy making process and more consultation with the IDN communities in the ccTLD territories could be done. the assessment of confusing similarity depends on amongst other things in developing the method and criteria.
*ALAC Statement on the Draft IDN ccTLD String Selection Criteria, Requirements and Processes Policy Recommendations*
The At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) commends the International Domain Names (IDN) country code Policy Development Process Working Group 1 for the comprehensiveness of its draft policy recommendations on the IDN ccTLD String Selection Criteria, Requirements and Processes for territories listed in the ISO 3166-1 list. We note that the recommendations are based on the previous work of the IDNC Working Group and we are pleased to see that the recommendations reflect the learning drawn from the implementation of the IDNccTLD Fast Track Process over the past few years.
We wish to reiterate the significance and importance of IDNs, including IDN Top Level Domains (TLDs) at both the generic and country code levels. We believe that IDNs are crucial for enhancing diversity and multilingualism on the Internet.
We observe that the draft recommendations do not address the issue of variant TLDs and instead contain a placeholder in Section J, which points out that issues pertaining to the management of such TLDs are still being discussed in the ICANN community and will be added later.
We believe that the draft recommendations should indicate that the issue of variants is urgent and need to be addressed in a timely manner. Concurrently, the draft recommendations should also affirm that the outcomes of the variants discussion pertaining to the Label Generation Ruleset (LGR) for the Root Zone would be binding and applicable to all TLDs (including ccTLDs), given that the overarching principle of the LGR process is the security and stability of the Root Zone, which is shared by all Internet users.
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