Dear all, I thought many of you might be interested in the Notice Of Inquiry (NOI) published by the NTIA on International Internet Policy Priorities. The NOI includes some questions in relation to the IANA transition. Most precisely it raises the question on whether the transition should be unwound and if so, how? There are also questions related to free flow of information and jurisdiction, Multistakeholder approach to internet governance, privacy and security and emerging technologies and trends. You can find the NOI in this link https://www.ntia.doc.gov/federal-register-notice/2018/notice-inquiry-interna... I hope you find this information useful. Kind regards, León Enviado desde mi iPad
Thanks Leon. On the (unasked) question whether the ALAC should or should not send a contribution to this, an external (non ICANN) enquiry, there is a precedent for the ALAC to send a comment to an external process: the previous NTIA NOI on IANA. https://atlarge.icann.org/advice_statements/8421 Kindest regards, Olivier On 05/06/2018 18:53, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía wrote:
Dear all,
I thought many of you might be interested in the Notice Of Inquiry (NOI) published by the NTIA on International Internet Policy Priorities.
The NOI includes some questions in relation to the IANA transition. Most precisely it raises the question on whether the transition should be unwound and if so, how?
There are also questions related to free flow of information and jurisdiction, Multistakeholder approach to internet governance, privacy and security and emerging technologies and trends.
You can find the NOI in this link https://www.ntia.doc.gov/federal-register-notice/2018/notice-inquiry-interna...
I hope you find this information useful.
Kind regards,
León Enviado desde mi iPad
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I’m all for ALAC sending a comment to NTIA, if that is allowed! Javier Rúa-Jovet +1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
On Jun 6, 2018, at 12:05 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Thanks Leon.
On the (unasked) question whether the ALAC should or should not send a contribution to this, an external (non ICANN) enquiry, there is a precedent for the ALAC to send a comment to an external process: the previous NTIA NOI on IANA. https://atlarge.icann.org/advice_statements/8421 Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 05/06/2018 18:53, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía wrote: Dear all,
I thought many of you might be interested in the Notice Of Inquiry (NOI) published by the NTIA on International Internet Policy Priorities.
The NOI includes some questions in relation to the IANA transition. Most precisely it raises the question on whether the transition should be unwound and if so, how?
There are also questions related to free flow of information and jurisdiction, Multistakeholder approach to internet governance, privacy and security and emerging technologies and trends.
You can find the NOI in this link https://www.ntia.doc.gov/federal-register-notice/2018/notice-inquiry-interna...
I hope you find this information useful.
Kind regards,
León Enviado desde mi iPad
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Javier, I don't think it is appropriate bearing in mind the international nature of ALAC representatives. --andrei 2018-06-06 13:15 GMT+03:00 Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com>:
I’m all for ALAC sending a comment to NTIA, if that is allowed!
Javier Rúa-Jovet
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On Jun 6, 2018, at 12:05 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Thanks Leon.
On the (unasked) question whether the ALAC should or should not send a contribution to this, an external (non ICANN) enquiry, there is a precedent for the ALAC to send a comment to an external process: the previous NTIA NOI on IANA. https://atlarge.icann.org/advice_statements/8421 Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 05/06/2018 18:53, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía wrote:
Dear all,
I thought many of you might be interested in the Notice Of Inquiry (NOI) published by the NTIA on International Internet Policy Priorities.
The NOI includes some questions in relation to the IANA transition. Most precisely it raises the question on whether the transition should be unwound and if so, how?
There are also questions related to free flow of information and jurisdiction, Multistakeholder approach to internet governance, privacy and security and emerging technologies and trends.
You can find the NOI in this link https://www.ntia.doc.gov/ federal-register-notice/2018/notice-inquiry-international- internet-policy-priorities
I hope you find this information useful.
Kind regards,
León Enviado desde mi iPad
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Hello, I tend to agree with Andrei; it seem to me that organisations and citizens of the USA are more appropriate responders to this enquiry. However if ICANN being an organisation incorporated in the USA then believes her MS community should respond then they need to initiate a process to collect those feedback from the community and submit it as ICANN MS community response to the NTIA's call for comment, otherwise, I do not think it is appropriate for ALAC/Atlarge to respond directly to a country's call for comment. Regards On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Andrei Kolesnikov <andrei@rol.ru> wrote:
Javier, I don't think it is appropriate bearing in mind the international nature of ALAC representatives. --andrei
2018-06-06 13:15 GMT+03:00 Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com>:
I’m all for ALAC sending a comment to NTIA, if that is allowed!
Javier Rúa-Jovet
+1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
On Jun 6, 2018, at 12:05 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Thanks Leon.
On the (unasked) question whether the ALAC should or should not send a contribution to this, an external (non ICANN) enquiry, there is a precedent for the ALAC to send a comment to an external process: the previous NTIA NOI on IANA. https://atlarge.icann.org/advice_statements/8421 Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 05/06/2018 18:53, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía wrote:
Dear all,
I thought many of you might be interested in the Notice Of Inquiry (NOI) published by the NTIA on International Internet Policy Priorities.
The NOI includes some questions in relation to the IANA transition. Most precisely it raises the question on whether the transition should be unwound and if so, how?
There are also questions related to free flow of information and jurisdiction, Multistakeholder approach to internet governance, privacy and security and emerging technologies and trends.
You can find the NOI in this link https://www.ntia.doc.gov/ federal-register-notice/2018/notice-inquiry-international-in ternet-policy-priorities
I hope you find this information useful.
Kind regards,
León Enviado desde mi iPad
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I agree with Seun that in order for the ALAC to respond to this ICANN org should put it forward to the community. Hadia From: ALAC [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Seun Ojedeji Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 12:47 PM To: Andrei Kolesnikov Cc: ALAC Working List; At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [ALAC] [At-Large] NOI published by NTIA Hello, I tend to agree with Andrei; it seem to me that organisations and citizens of the USA are more appropriate responders to this enquiry. However if ICANN being an organisation incorporated in the USA then believes her MS community should respond then they need to initiate a process to collect those feedback from the community and submit it as ICANN MS community response to the NTIA's call for comment, otherwise, I do not think it is appropriate for ALAC/Atlarge to respond directly to a country's call for comment. Regards On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Andrei Kolesnikov <andrei@rol.ru<mailto:andrei@rol.ru>> wrote: Javier, I don't think it is appropriate bearing in mind the international nature of ALAC representatives. --andrei 2018-06-06 13:15 GMT+03:00 Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com<mailto:javrua@gmail.com>>: I’m all for ALAC sending a comment to NTIA, if that is allowed! Javier Rúa-Jovet +1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua On Jun 6, 2018, at 12:05 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com<mailto:ocl@gih.com>> wrote: Thanks Leon. On the (unasked) question whether the ALAC should or should not send a contribution to this, an external (non ICANN) enquiry, there is a precedent for the ALAC to send a comment to an external process: the previous NTIA NOI on IANA. https://atlarge.icann.org/advice_statements/8421 Kindest regards, Olivier On 05/06/2018 18:53, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía wrote: Dear all, I thought many of you might be interested in the Notice Of Inquiry (NOI) published by the NTIA on International Internet Policy Priorities. The NOI includes some questions in relation to the IANA transition. Most precisely it raises the question on whether the transition should be unwound and if so, how? There are also questions related to free flow of information and jurisdiction, Multistakeholder approach to internet governance, privacy and security and emerging technologies and trends. You can find the NOI in this link https://www.ntia.doc.gov/federal-register-notice/2018/notice-inquiry-interna... I hope you find this information useful. Kind regards, León Enviado desde mi iPad _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALA...) _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org -- Andrey Kolesnikov RIPN.NET<http://RIPN.NET> _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALA...) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Seun Ojedeji, Federal University Oye-Ekiti web: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng Mobile: +2348035233535 alt email: <http://goog_1872880453> seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng<mailto:seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng> Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your action!
I have a different opinion. I have read the NOI and found nothing that implies that the comments should be limited to be from US citizen or entities based in the US. On the other hand, some of the questions that are asked are about aspects that will have an impact beyond the US borders. Whether the NTIA will take into account comments from overseas is a completely different story. But we should not limit ourselves in commenting because of a presumption of being ignored. Besides, to have an ALAC discussion on the topics raised will be a healthy exercise independently from the fact of reaching consensus on a single document. Cheers, Roberto On 06.06.2018, at 14:47, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello, I tend to agree with Andrei; it seem to me that organisations and citizens of the USA are more appropriate responders to this enquiry. However if ICANN being an organisation incorporated in the USA then believes her MS community should respond then they need to initiate a process to collect those feedback from the community and submit it as ICANN MS community response to the NTIA's call for comment, otherwise, I do not think it is appropriate for ALAC/Atlarge to respond directly to a country's call for comment. Regards On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Andrei Kolesnikov <andrei@rol.ru<mailto:andrei@rol.ru>>wrote: Javier, I don't think it is appropriate bearing in mind the international nature of ALAC representatives. --andrei 2018-06-06 13:15 GMT+03:00 Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com<mailto:javrua@gmail.com>>: I’m all for ALAC sending a comment to NTIA, if that is allowed! Javier Rúa-Jovet +1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua On Jun 6, 2018, at 12:05 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com<mailto:ocl@gih.com>> wrote: Thanks Leon. On the (unasked) question whether the ALAC should or should not send a contribution to this, an external (non ICANN) enquiry, there is a precedent for the ALAC to send a comment to an external process: the previous NTIA NOI on IANA.https://atlarge.icann.org/advice_statements/8421 Kindest regards, Olivier On 05/06/2018 18:53, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía wrote: Dear all, I thought many of you might be interested in the Notice Of Inquiry (NOI) published by the NTIA on International Internet Policy Priorities. The NOI includes some questions in relation to the IANA transition. Most precisely it raises the question on whether the transition should be unwound and if so, how? There are also questions related to free flow of information and jurisdiction, Multistakeholder approach to internet governance, privacy and security and emerging technologies and trends. You can find the NOI in this link https://www.ntia.doc.gov/federal-register-notice/2018/notice-inquiry-interna... I hope you find this information useful. Kind regards, León Enviado desde mi iPad _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org<http://atlarge.icann.org/> _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org<http://www.atlarge.icann.org/> ALAC Working Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALA...) _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org<http://atlarge.icann.org/> -- Andrey Kolesnikov RIPN.NET<http://ripn.net/> _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org<http://www.atlarge.icann.org/> ALAC Working Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALA...) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Seun Ojedeji, Federal University Oye-Ekiti web: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng<http://www.fuoye.edu.ng/> Mobile: +2348035233535 alt email: <http://goog_1872880453/> seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng<mailto:seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng> Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your action! _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org<http://atlarge.icann.org/>
Hi Roberto, The comments do not have to be by US citizens/orgs , however the ALAC is the at- large advisory committee of the ICANN, therefore I see that in order for the ALAC to respond it should be through the ICANN, so either the ICANN puts it forward to the community or on second thoughts and only if we really want to respond to this, we inform ICANN org that we are interested in commenting or responding to the inquiry to put it forward to us - that is if we want to respond in our capacity as the at large advisory committee of the ICANN Best Hadia From: At-Large [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Roberto Gaetano Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 2:28 PM To: Seun Ojedeji Cc: ICANN ALAC list; At Large Subject: Re: [At-Large] [ALAC] NOI published by NTIA I have a different opinion. I have read the NOI and found nothing that implies that the comments should be limited to be from US citizen or entities based in the US. On the other hand, some of the questions that are asked are about aspects that will have an impact beyond the US borders. Whether the NTIA will take into account comments from overseas is a completely different story. But we should not limit ourselves in commenting because of a presumption of being ignored. Besides, to have an ALAC discussion on the topics raised will be a healthy exercise independently from the fact of reaching consensus on a single document. Cheers, Roberto On 06.06.2018, at 14:47, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello, I tend to agree with Andrei; it seem to me that organisations and citizens of the USA are more appropriate responders to this enquiry. However if ICANN being an organisation incorporated in the USA then believes her MS community should respond then they need to initiate a process to collect those feedback from the community and submit it as ICANN MS community response to the NTIA's call for comment, otherwise, I do not think it is appropriate for ALAC/Atlarge to respond directly to a country's call for comment. Regards On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Andrei Kolesnikov <andrei@rol.ru<mailto:andrei@rol.ru>>wrote: Javier, I don't think it is appropriate bearing in mind the international nature of ALAC representatives. --andrei 2018-06-06 13:15 GMT+03:00 Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com<mailto:javrua@gmail.com>>: I’m all for ALAC sending a comment to NTIA, if that is allowed! Javier Rúa-Jovet +1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua On Jun 6, 2018, at 12:05 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com<mailto:ocl@gih.com>> wrote: Thanks Leon. On the (unasked) question whether the ALAC should or should not send a contribution to this, an external (non ICANN) enquiry, there is a precedent for the ALAC to send a comment to an external process: the previous NTIA NOI on IANA.https://atlarge.icann.org/advice_statements/8421 Kindest regards, Olivier On 05/06/2018 18:53, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía wrote: Dear all, I thought many of you might be interested in the Notice Of Inquiry (NOI) published by the NTIA on International Internet Policy Priorities. The NOI includes some questions in relation to the IANA transition. Most precisely it raises the question on whether the transition should be unwound and if so, how? There are also questions related to free flow of information and jurisdiction, Multistakeholder approach to internet governance, privacy and security and emerging technologies and trends. You can find the NOI in this link https://www.ntia.doc.gov/federal-register-notice/2018/notice-inquiry-interna... I hope you find this information useful. 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I do agree with you Hadia. I read and had comment inside for some colleagues my views. From my view only if ICANN would demand opinion from its AC/SO, this NTIA position is more an internal political dance and ICANN can, itself, comment directly to them but I do not see our position in comment this more than acknowledge and internally comment our view of the consequences to ICANN , if any. Best regards, Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 Sorry for any typos. From: At-Large <at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi <Hadia@tra.gov.eg> Date: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 09:52 To: Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com>, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> Cc: 'ALAC List' <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>, 'At-Large Worldwide' <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [At-Large] [ALAC] NOI published by NTIA Hi Roberto, The comments do not have to be by US citizens/orgs , however the ALAC is the at- large advisory committee of the ICANN, therefore I see that in order for the ALAC to respond it should be through the ICANN, so either the ICANN puts it forward to the community or on second thoughts and only if we really want to respond to this, we inform ICANN org that we are interested in commenting or responding to the inquiry to put it forward to us - that is if we want to respond in our capacity as the at large advisory committee of the ICANN Best Hadia From: At-Large [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Roberto Gaetano Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 2:28 PM To: Seun Ojedeji Cc: ICANN ALAC list; At Large Subject: Re: [At-Large] [ALAC] NOI published by NTIA I have a different opinion. I have read the NOI and found nothing that implies that the comments should be limited to be from US citizen or entities based in the US. On the other hand, some of the questions that are asked are about aspects that will have an impact beyond the US borders. Whether the NTIA will take into account comments from overseas is a completely different story. But we should not limit ourselves in commenting because of a presumption of being ignored. Besides, to have an ALAC discussion on the topics raised will be a healthy exercise independently from the fact of reaching consensus on a single document. Cheers, Roberto On 06.06.2018, at 14:47, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello, I tend to agree with Andrei; it seem to me that organisations and citizens of the USA are more appropriate responders to this enquiry. However if ICANN being an organisation incorporated in the USA then believes her MS community should respond then they need to initiate a process to collect those feedback from the community and submit it as ICANN MS community response to the NTIA's call for comment, otherwise, I do not think it is appropriate for ALAC/Atlarge to respond directly to a country's call for comment. Regards On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Andrei Kolesnikov <andrei@rol.ru<mailto:andrei@rol.ru>>wrote: Javier, I don't think it is appropriate bearing in mind the international nature of ALAC representatives. --andrei 2018-06-06 13:15 GMT+03:00 Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com<mailto:javrua@gmail.com>>: I’m all for ALAC sending a comment to NTIA, if that is allowed! Javier Rúa-Jovet +1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua On Jun 6, 2018, at 12:05 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com<mailto:ocl@gih.com>> wrote: Thanks Leon. On the (unasked) question whether the ALAC should or should not send a contribution to this, an external (non ICANN) enquiry, there is a precedent for the ALAC to send a comment to an external process: the previous NTIA NOI on IANA.https://atlarge.icann.org/advice_statements/8421 Kindest regards, Olivier On 05/06/2018 18:53, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía wrote: Dear all, I thought many of you might be interested in the Notice Of Inquiry (NOI) published by the NTIA on International Internet Policy Priorities. The NOI includes some questions in relation to the IANA transition. Most precisely it raises the question on whether the transition should be unwound and if so, how? There are also questions related to free flow of information and jurisdiction, Multistakeholder approach to internet governance, privacy and security and emerging technologies and trends. You can find the NOI in this link https://www.ntia.doc.gov/federal-register-notice/2018/notice-inquiry-interna... I hope you find this information useful. 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For better or worse, the NTIA's eventual position on the IANA function, it current dispensation and the corollary cooperative Agreements will impact ICANN the corporation, the ICANN MS process and, global internet users. IMHO and by virtue of ALAC being the representative of the global internet user view in the ICANN MS process is accorded standing. As OCL pointed out, when the IANA transition matter came up and a similar request came out of the NTIA, the ALAC commented as indeed several members in their own right. Whether our Uncle Sam would tag an ALAC comment as having more value or impact than any itinerant other is another matter entirely. -Carlton ============================== *Carlton A Samuels* *Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 5:47 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I tend to agree with Andrei; it seem to me that organisations and citizens of the USA are more appropriate responders to this enquiry.
However if ICANN being an organisation incorporated in the USA then believes her MS community should respond then they need to initiate a process to collect those feedback from the community and submit it as ICANN MS community response to the NTIA's call for comment, otherwise, I do not think it is appropriate for ALAC/Atlarge to respond directly to a country's call for comment.
Regards
On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Andrei Kolesnikov <andrei@rol.ru> wrote:
Javier, I don't think it is appropriate bearing in mind the international nature of ALAC representatives. --andrei
2018-06-06 13:15 GMT+03:00 Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com>:
I’m all for ALAC sending a comment to NTIA, if that is allowed!
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On Jun 6, 2018, at 12:05 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Thanks Leon.
On the (unasked) question whether the ALAC should or should not send a contribution to this, an external (non ICANN) enquiry, there is a precedent for the ALAC to send a comment to an external process: the previous NTIA NOI on IANA. https://atlarge.icann.org/advice_statements/8421 Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 05/06/2018 18:53, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía wrote:
Dear all,
I thought many of you might be interested in the Notice Of Inquiry (NOI) published by the NTIA on International Internet Policy Priorities.
The NOI includes some questions in relation to the IANA transition. Most precisely it raises the question on whether the transition should be unwound and if so, how?
There are also questions related to free flow of information and jurisdiction, Multistakeholder approach to internet governance, privacy and security and emerging technologies and trends.
You can find the NOI in this link https://www.ntia.doc.gov/ federal-register-notice/2018/notice-inquiry-international-in ternet-policy-priorities
I hope you find this information useful.
Kind regards,
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+1 Carlton On June 6, 2018 8:24:09 AM CST, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
For better or worse, the NTIA's eventual position on the IANA function, it current dispensation and the corollary cooperative Agreements will impact ICANN the corporation, the ICANN MS process and, global internet users.
IMHO and by virtue of ALAC being the representative of the global internet user view in the ICANN MS process is accorded standing.
As OCL pointed out, when the IANA transition matter came up and a similar request came out of the NTIA, the ALAC commented as indeed several members in their own right.
Whether our Uncle Sam would tag an ALAC comment as having more value or impact than any itinerant other is another matter entirely.
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On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 5:47 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I tend to agree with Andrei; it seem to me that organisations and citizens of the USA are more appropriate responders to this enquiry.
However if ICANN being an organisation incorporated in the USA then believes her MS community should respond then they need to initiate a process to collect those feedback from the community and submit it as ICANN MS community response to the NTIA's call for comment, otherwise, I do not think it is appropriate for ALAC/Atlarge to respond directly to a country's call for comment.
Regards
On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Andrei Kolesnikov <andrei@rol.ru> wrote:
Javier, I don't think it is appropriate bearing in mind the international nature of ALAC representatives. --andrei
2018-06-06 13:15 GMT+03:00 Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com>:
I’m all for ALAC sending a comment to NTIA, if that is allowed!
Javier Rúa-Jovet
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On Jun 6, 2018, at 12:05 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Thanks Leon.
On the (unasked) question whether the ALAC should or should not send a contribution to this, an external (non ICANN) enquiry, there is a precedent for the ALAC to send a comment to an external process: the previous NTIA NOI on IANA. https://atlarge.icann.org/advice_statements/8421 Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 05/06/2018 18:53, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía wrote:
Dear all,
I thought many of you might be interested in the Notice Of Inquiry (NOI) published by the NTIA on International Internet Policy Priorities.
The NOI includes some questions in relation to the IANA transition. Most precisely it raises the question on whether the transition should be unwound and if so, how?
There are also questions related to free flow of information and jurisdiction, Multistakeholder approach to internet governance, privacy and security and emerging technologies and trends.
You can find the NOI in this link https://www.ntia.doc.gov/ federal-register-notice/2018/notice-inquiry-international-in ternet-policy-priorities
I hope you find this information useful.
Kind regards,
León Enviado desde mi iPad
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I still haven’t looked at NTIA’s document, I must confess, but my instincts say +1 to Carlton. Javier Rúa-Jovet +1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
On Jun 6, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <carlosraul@gutierrez.se> wrote:
+1 Carlton
On June 6, 2018 8:24:09 AM CST, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote: For better or worse, the NTIA's eventual position on the IANA function, it current dispensation and the corollary cooperative Agreements will impact ICANN the corporation, the ICANN MS process and, global internet users.
IMHO and by virtue of ALAC being the representative of the global internet user view in the ICANN MS process is accorded standing.
As OCL pointed out, when the IANA transition matter came up and a similar request came out of the NTIA, the ALAC commented as indeed several members in their own right.
Whether our Uncle Sam would tag an ALAC comment as having more value or impact than any itinerant other is another matter entirely.
-Carlton
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On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 5:47 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote: Hello,
I tend to agree with Andrei; it seem to me that organisations and citizens of the USA are more appropriate responders to this enquiry.
However if ICANN being an organisation incorporated in the USA then believes her MS community should respond then they need to initiate a process to collect those feedback from the community and submit it as ICANN MS community response to the NTIA's call for comment, otherwise, I do not think it is appropriate for ALAC/Atlarge to respond directly to a country's call for comment.
Regards
On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Andrei Kolesnikov <andrei@rol.ru> wrote: Javier, I don't think it is appropriate bearing in mind the international nature of ALAC representatives. --andrei
2018-06-06 13:15 GMT+03:00 Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com>:
I’m all for ALAC sending a comment to NTIA, if that is allowed!
Javier Rúa-Jovet
+1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
On Jun 6, 2018, at 12:05 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Thanks Leon.
On the (unasked) question whether the ALAC should or should not send a contribution to this, an external (non ICANN) enquiry, there is a precedent for the ALAC to send a comment to an external process: the previous NTIA NOI on IANA. https://atlarge.icann.org/advice_statements/8421 Kindest regards,
Olivier
> On 05/06/2018 18:53, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía wrote: > Dear all, > > I thought many of you might be interested in the Notice Of Inquiry (NOI) published by the NTIA on International Internet Policy Priorities. > > The NOI includes some questions in relation to the IANA transition. Most precisely it raises the question on whether the transition should be unwound and if so, how? > > There are also questions related to free flow of information and jurisdiction, Multistakeholder approach to internet governance, privacy and security and emerging technologies and trends. > > You can find the NOI in this link https://www.ntia.doc.gov/federal-register-notice/2018/notice-inquiry-interna... > > I hope you find this information useful. > > Kind regards, > > > León > Enviado desde mi iPad > > > _______________________________________________ > At-Large mailing list > At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large > > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
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I hear you loud and clear, but time has changed brother and we are no longer in the oversight regime when we needed to convince the big guy. Even at that time of transition there was a clear call to the global community by NTIA which ALAC indeed form a part of and we responded as such but the current call does not strike me as anything close to that, unless we want to grant legitimacy to this than necessary I'd prefer (and suggest) we stay put. Regards Sent from my mobile Kindly excuse brevity and typos On Wed, 6 Jun 2018, 15:24 Carlton Samuels, <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
For better or worse, the NTIA's eventual position on the IANA function, it current dispensation and the corollary cooperative Agreements will impact ICANN the corporation, the ICANN MS process and, global internet users.
IMHO and by virtue of ALAC being the representative of the global internet user view in the ICANN MS process is accorded standing.
As OCL pointed out, when the IANA transition matter came up and a similar request came out of the NTIA, the ALAC commented as indeed several members in their own right.
Whether our Uncle Sam would tag an ALAC comment as having more value or impact than any itinerant other is another matter entirely.
-Carlton
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On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 5:47 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I tend to agree with Andrei; it seem to me that organisations and citizens of the USA are more appropriate responders to this enquiry.
However if ICANN being an organisation incorporated in the USA then believes her MS community should respond then they need to initiate a process to collect those feedback from the community and submit it as ICANN MS community response to the NTIA's call for comment, otherwise, I do not think it is appropriate for ALAC/Atlarge to respond directly to a country's call for comment.
Regards
On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Andrei Kolesnikov <andrei@rol.ru> wrote:
Javier, I don't think it is appropriate bearing in mind the international nature of ALAC representatives. --andrei
2018-06-06 13:15 GMT+03:00 Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com>:
I’m all for ALAC sending a comment to NTIA, if that is allowed!
Javier Rúa-Jovet
+1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
On Jun 6, 2018, at 12:05 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Thanks Leon.
On the (unasked) question whether the ALAC should or should not send a contribution to this, an external (non ICANN) enquiry, there is a precedent for the ALAC to send a comment to an external process: the previous NTIA NOI on IANA. https://atlarge.icann.org/advice_statements/8421 Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 05/06/2018 18:53, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía wrote:
Dear all,
I thought many of you might be interested in the Notice Of Inquiry (NOI) published by the NTIA on International Internet Policy Priorities.
The NOI includes some questions in relation to the IANA transition. Most precisely it raises the question on whether the transition should be unwound and if so, how?
There are also questions related to free flow of information and jurisdiction, Multistakeholder approach to internet governance, privacy and security and emerging technologies and trends.
You can find the NOI in this link https://www.ntia.doc.gov/federal-register-notice/2018/notice-inquiry-interna...
I hope you find this information useful.
Kind regards,
León Enviado desde mi iPad
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Very well said. -ed On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 7:25 AM Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
For better or worse, the NTIA's eventual position on the IANA function, it current dispensation and the corollary cooperative Agreements will impact ICANN the corporation, the ICANN MS process and, global internet users.
IMHO and by virtue of ALAC being the representative of the global internet user view in the ICANN MS process is accorded standing.
As OCL pointed out, when the IANA transition matter came up and a similar request came out of the NTIA, the ALAC commented as indeed several members in their own right.
Whether our Uncle Sam would tag an ALAC comment as having more value or impact than any itinerant other is another matter entirely.
-Carlton
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On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 5:47 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I tend to agree with Andrei; it seem to me that organisations and citizens of the USA are more appropriate responders to this enquiry.
However if ICANN being an organisation incorporated in the USA then believes her MS community should respond then they need to initiate a process to collect those feedback from the community and submit it as ICANN MS community response to the NTIA's call for comment, otherwise, I do not think it is appropriate for ALAC/Atlarge to respond directly to a country's call for comment.
Regards
On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Andrei Kolesnikov <andrei@rol.ru> wrote:
Javier, I don't think it is appropriate bearing in mind the international nature of ALAC representatives. --andrei
2018-06-06 13:15 GMT+03:00 Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com>:
I’m all for ALAC sending a comment to NTIA, if that is allowed!
Javier Rúa-Jovet
+1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
On Jun 6, 2018, at 12:05 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Thanks Leon.
On the (unasked) question whether the ALAC should or should not send a contribution to this, an external (non ICANN) enquiry, there is a precedent for the ALAC to send a comment to an external process: the previous NTIA NOI on IANA. https://atlarge.icann.org/advice_statements/8421 Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 05/06/2018 18:53, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía wrote:
Dear all,
I thought many of you might be interested in the Notice Of Inquiry (NOI) published by the NTIA on International Internet Policy Priorities.
The NOI includes some questions in relation to the IANA transition. Most precisely it raises the question on whether the transition should be unwound and if so, how?
There are also questions related to free flow of information and jurisdiction, Multistakeholder approach to internet governance, privacy and security and emerging technologies and trends.
You can find the NOI in this link https://www.ntia.doc.gov/federal-register-notice/2018/notice-inquiry-interna...
I hope you find this information useful.
Kind regards,
León Enviado desde mi iPad
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Response from Larry Strickling: https://twitter.com/Olivier_CL/status/1004238563469295616 On 05/06/2018 18:53, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía wrote:
Dear all,
I thought many of you might be interested in the Notice Of Inquiry (NOI) published by the NTIA on International Internet Policy Priorities.
The NOI includes some questions in relation to the IANA transition. Most precisely it raises the question on whether the transition should be unwound and if so, how?
There are also questions related to free flow of information and jurisdiction, Multistakeholder approach to internet governance, privacy and security and emerging technologies and trends.
You can find the NOI in this link https://www.ntia.doc.gov/federal-register-notice/2018/notice-inquiry-interna...
I hope you find this information useful.
Kind regards,
León Enviado desde mi iPad
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I did record this exchange. I have posted it at https://youtu.be/jM15nrRTPZs A transcript is in the description. On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:56 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Response from Larry Strickling: https://twitter.com/Olivier_ CL/status/1004238563469295616
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Yes, a very clear answer from Larry that says that the process can't be unwound. We could emphasize this in comments "in robust defense" of the multi-stakeholder process. On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:44 PM Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com> wrote:
I did record this exchange. I have posted it at https://youtu.be/jM15nrRTPZs
A transcript is in the description.
On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:56 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Response from Larry Strickling: https://twitter.com/Olivier_CL/status/1004238563469295616
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Andrei Kolesnikov -
Carlos Raul Gutierrez -
Carlton Samuels -
Eduardo Diaz -
Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi -
Javier Rua -
Joly MacFie -
León Felipe Sánchez Ambía -
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond -
Roberto Gaetano -
Seun Ojedeji -
Sivasubramanian M -
Vanda Scartezini