Re: [At-Large] Preliminary Report for the 23 January 2008 Special Meeting of the ICANN Board of Directors
At-Large may be interested in the preliminary minutes of the Jan. 23 Board meeting. <http://www.icann.org/minutes/prelim-report-23jan08.htm> In particular, note this resolution on the AGP, aimed at ending the abuses of domain tasting: "... Whereas, the Board believes that the withdrawal of ICANN's waiver of ICANN's non-refundable transaction fee to the deletion of names within the AGP will substantially end the practice of abusing the AGP; THEREFORE, the Board resolves (2008.01.04) to encourage ICANN's budgetary process to include fees for all domains added, including domains added during the AGP, and encourages community discussion involved in developing the ICANN budget,subject to both Board approval and registrar approval of this fee." In addition, an ALAC review Working Group was constituted and a contract is being negotiated with Westlake Consulting. You will see the Board also discussed IDN ccTLDs and gTLDs and new gTLDs and accepted the GNSO's recommendations on contractual conditions (PDP Feb-06) Thanks to board and staff for producing such prompt and descriptive minutes. --Wendy -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [alerts] ICANN News Alert -- Preliminary Report for the 23 January 2008 Special Meeting of the ICANN Board of Directors Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:47:13 -0800 From: ICANN News Alert <ICANN-Alerts@icann.org> Reply-To: ICANN-Alerts@icann.org To: <alerts@greenriver.icann.org> ICANN <http://www.icann.org/> News Alert http://www.icann.org/minutes/prelim-report-23jan08.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Preliminary Report for the 23 January 2008 Special Meeting of the ICANN Board of Directors Formal Minutes are still to be approved by the ICANN Board during its next Board Meeting 28 January 2008 ICANN has posted to its website a Preliminary Report <http://www.icann.org/minutes/prelim-report-23jan08.htm> of the Board meeting held on 23 January 2008. The Board will consider the Preliminary Report in adopting formal Minutes during its next board meeting. ICANN's Board meets regularly (approximately once per month). The Board is committed to being as transparent and accountable as possible. As soon as possible following each meeting, ICANN staff posts a preliminary report of the meeting. The report outlines detailed discussion from the board meeting and demonstrates how decisions are reached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Sign up for ICANN's Monthly Magazine <http://www.icann.org/magazine/>* To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please visit http://www.icann.org/newsletter If you have questions or comments about this mailing list, send an email to ICANN-Alerts@icann.org <mailto:ICANN-Alerts@icann.org> -- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org phone: +1.914.374.0613 // office: 617.373.7331 Visiting Professor, Northeastern University School of Law Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/
This is good news! Thank you, Wendy. On Jan 29, 2008, at 5:44 AM, Wendy Seltzer wrote:
In particular, note this resolution on the AGP, aimed at ending the abuses of domain tasting:
Bret Fausett wrote:
This is good news! Thank you, Wendy.
It _sounds_ good, but it's far too indirect for my understanding. The relevant quote regarding tasting is the Board resolution to: "encourage ICANN's budgetary process to include fees for all domains added, including domains added during the AGP". Does this mean the elimination of the waiver? In theory or in practice? I'm truly doing my best to understand ICANN culture. Still, Board directives to encourage things to happen, rather than actually _do_ things, appear to the unschooled as an invitation for exceptions, delays, or outright refusal to implement. To the untrained eye, this resolution is good news only if accompanied by an optimistic interpretation. Or... is this simply a welcome first step down a long and landmine-laden road? - Evan
Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> writes:
It _sounds_ good, but it's far too indirect for my understanding.
Take it as a snapshot of the board's current thinking. It is vague (in some sense) because it is not a decree that changes any of the rules in practice _today_. But it does send a signal about the direction things perhaps should move in.
The relevant quote regarding tasting is the Board resolution to: "encourage ICANN's budgetary process to include fees for all domains added, including domains added during the AGP".
Does this mean the elimination of the waiver? In theory or in practice?
At one level, it means nothing, because it makes no changes to current practice. The resolution by itself does not eliminate the waiver. What it is saying is that ICANN (as a community) should move to "include fees for all dojmains added, including domains added during the AGP" Whether that actually happens (in reality) we won't know until the budget development process plays out (i.e., over the next few months). That is an open/public process, where everyone will have a chance to weigh in. But I think you can read the resolution as saying the board would be inclined to support a change. I say "inclined" only because at the end of the day, the board will look at the specific proposal it is asked to approve, and weigh the overall pros/cons of that proposal.
I'm truly doing my best to understand ICANN culture. Still, Board directives to encourage things to happen, rather than actually _do_ things, appear to the unschooled as an invitation for exceptions, delays, or outright refusal to implement. To the untrained eye, this resolution is good news only if accompanied by an optimistic interpretation.
The way to view it is that the board is not (by itself) making the decision here. But they have signaled a direction that they think the community should move in and one they would be inclined to support.
Or... is this simply a welcome first step down a long and landmine-laden road?
Sounds about right! :-) Thomas
I think ALAC will make a brief comment on this - to appreciate the direction we requested in April to prepare the Issue report and also PDP at the New Delhi meeting. It is the users voice that was the key! izumi 2008/1/30, Bret Fausett <bfausett@internet.law.pro>:
This is good news! Thank you, Wendy.
On Jan 29, 2008, at 5:44 AM, Wendy Seltzer wrote:
In particular, note this resolution on the AGP, aimed at ending the abuses of domain tasting:
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Wendy Seltzer