All, Seems yet again that Google cannot seem to behave in the best interests of the stability of the Internet and has become a purveyor of spam and other forms of harmful activity. See:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backscatter#Backscatter_of_email_spam Vint, it seems that your "Evangelist" efforts are falling far short of the mark. Please try to improve those efforts with all due haste. Seems to me given Google's recent errant behavior, that it is time to take their domain name down as they represent a clear and present danger to a huge number of users and threaten the stability of the Internet accordingly. Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827