Jacque and all, I find it completely ironic that Robert, yourself or several others of this ML forum are concerned what so ever about Censorship in Egypt ( and yes censorship in Egypt is very prevalent ) when the ALAC itself practices censorship as does the NARALO. Absolutely extraordinary! >:( -----Original Message-----

From: "Jacqueline A. Morris" <jam@jacquelinemorris.com> Sent: May 25, 2008 9:04 AM To: Robert Guerra <lists@privaterra.info> Cc: At-Large Worldwide <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [At-Large] Egypt vs internet

Personally, I'm OK with 2), and would support ALAC sending a letter to the Board asking for such assurances, but with regard to 1), I still ask - raise the issue to whom? What's the specific action you want the At Large community to take regarding 1)? Jacqueline Robert Guerra wrote:

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I'll repeat two specific items that I mentioned in my original message to the list on the topic. That being, that I would like to consult the at-large community on two specific items:

1. raise the issue of limitations to freedom of expression and censorship that takes place en Egypt, and if the at-large community would be interested in raising this - key issue for internet users in Egypt .

2. seek assurances from ICANN that the meeting will be open to all internet users that wish to attend the meeting and that the internet available at the meeting will be uncensored

I await further comments and/or suggestions.

regards

Robert

On 25-May-08, at 11:25 AM, Jacqueline A. Morris wrote:

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Raise the issue where, to whom? Besides cancelling the Cairo meeting, what else is it likely that ICANN can do? Maybe the ITU might be better suited re freedom of access to the telecomms that are necessary to access the Internet, or the UN or Amnesty International re the human rights of people arrested for civil disobedience or protest - not sure who else works with political prisoners etc. But I'm pretty sure it isn't in the ICANN (or the ALAC) mandate. If ALAC wanted to, as a group of 100 groups, sign a petition, I'd probably back that, but it might be difficult to get all the ALSes to sign, and other than that, I can't see anything else to do - if you have any suggestions, be glad to hear them. Jacqueline Robert Guerra wrote:

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Glad you mentioned a reference to global voices. In fact, i mentioned them earlier . Suffice it to say, that I would hope that at-large can proactively raise the issue. If it doesn't, likely there will be others who do...

regards

Robert

On 25-May-08, at 2:33 AM, WWWhatsup wrote:

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Doesn't look too good

http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/05/16/egypt-torture-for-bloggers-and-...

At 17:37 2008-05-23, you wrote:

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On 23-May-08, at 5:17 PM, Jacqueline A. Morris wrote:

> And I have no idea what you are talking about re Egypt. > >

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