Re: [At-Large] [GTLD-WG] ALAC New gTLD statement
So, perhaps, create a sort of case-by-case evaluation basis for those gTLDs who have been in the race for a while, but at the same time, halt the overall procedure so that the cited concerns can be addressed? -----Original Message----- From: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Sébastien Bachollet Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:56 PM To: gtld-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: 'At-Large Staff'; 'At-Large Worldwide' Subject: Re: [At-Large] [GTLD-WG] ALAC New gTLD statement Thanks Beau for your push on that subject. I would like to add one idea: With less staff and less money Icann was able to introduce 7 and then 6 new gTLDs. Maybe a more pragmatic way could be explored. Thanks Sébastien Bachollet Président Isoc France sebastien.bachollet@isoc.fr www.egeni.org www.isoc.fr
-----Message d'origine----- De : gtld-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:gtld-wg- bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de Brendler, Beau Envoyé : vendredi 9 janvier 2009 18:22 À : At-Large Worldwide; gtld-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc : Matthias; Heidi Ullrich; At-Large Staff; NA Discuss Objet : [GTLD-WG] ALAC New gTLD statement
We need to make a statement of some sort -- it may already be too late, though my guess is that the rather unenthusiastic reception ICANN has received so far makes the concern less acute. That said, our deadline has come and gone.
May I ask for guidance from staff to coordinate? And as for process? Are we to put the statement as written up for a vote? Or make it simple and just send up a line of advice to the board (we can cite the other documents as a backup rationale)?
Something like this (adopting from some of the language I have seen in reviewing recent notes, mostly from John):
The ALAC recommends that the ICANN board delay the new gTLD application and implementation process until the following steps are taken:
* The economic impact study promised in 2006 has been released and evaluated. * ICANN develops and implements compliance processes to manage all requirements in existing registry and registrar contracts. * ICANN develops compliance processes for any new or different requirements in new contracts. * That IDN gTLDs and IDN ccTLDs be delayed as well until similar issues regarding contract compliance are clearly addressed and disseminated to the user community. * That ICANN evaluates user community concerns with specific details contained in the new gTLD applicant guidebook, to be conveyed in a separate communication to the ICANN board, and provides a timely response to them.
May I suggest to the ALAC ex com or whomever the appropriate authority is, to put this statement up for a vote from the ALAC as soon as possible?
Beau Brendler
-----Original Message----- From: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large- bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Danny Younger Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:37 AM To: At-Large Worldwide Subject: [At-Large] my submissions to new gTLD statement
Re: "By asking to suspend the process, we risk killing innovation and we play the game of the incumbents."
Patrick, as you have been spearheading the launch of the .sport TLD, your views are necessarily tainted with a conflict of interest.
Yes, money is risked when processes are delayed. Stuart Lawley's .xxx initiative risked millions, and many of us recall the folks at SITA going up to the microphone session after session, year after year while burning up money.
But we are not in the business of protecting potential TLD operators; we are in the business of acting in the public interest.
The new gTLD process must be stopped dead in its tracks and must be significantly re-worked to address the issues raised (and yes, this could take years, many years). While there is a risk to potential new registry operators, the risk to the public of the consequences of a poorly designed and implemented launch cycle are substantially worse.
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So, perhaps, create a sort of case-by-case evaluation basis for those gTLDs who have been in the race for a while, but at the same time, halt the overall procedure so that the cited concerns can be addressed?
I don't see any compelling reason to move ahead with the gTLDs that have already applied. They knew when they applied that the process was very risky and any outcome was highly speculative, so I have no sympathy at all for complaints about how much money they've sent. The fiasco with .XXX tells me that trying to do special cases for them is as likely as not to cause more confusion that will slow down the process even more. R's, John
Something like this (adopting from some of the language I have seen in reviewing recent notes, mostly from John):
The ALAC recommends that the ICANN board delay the new gTLD application and implementation process until the following steps are taken:
* The economic impact study promised in 2006 has been released and evaluated. * ICANN develops and implements compliance processes to manage all requirements in existing registry and registrar contracts. * ICANN develops compliance processes for any new or different requirements in new contracts. * That IDN gTLDs and IDN ccTLDs be delayed as well until similar issues regarding contract compliance are clearly addressed and disseminated to the user community. * That ICANN evaluates user community concerns with specific details contained in the new gTLD applicant guidebook, to be conveyed in a separate communication to the ICANN board, and provides a timely response to them.
.xxx was not a special case. It was included in the last round of gTLDs. There are other that are not yet into the root like .post. I think we need to find a way less heavy to introduce new gTLDs. One size fit all will take few more years if it's happen eventually. Sébastien Bachollet Président Isoc France sebastien.bachollet@isoc.fr www.egeni.org www.isoc.fr
-----Message d'origine----- De : at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large- bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de John L Envoyé : samedi 10 janvier 2009 00:25 À : At-Large Worldwide Cc : gtld-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org Objet : Re: [At-Large] [GTLD-WG] ALAC New gTLD statement
So, perhaps, create a sort of case-by-case evaluation basis for those gTLDs who have been in the race for a while, but at the same time, halt the overall procedure so that the cited concerns can be addressed?
I don't see any compelling reason to move ahead with the gTLDs that have already applied. They knew when they applied that the process was very risky and any outcome was highly speculative, so I have no sympathy at all for complaints about how much money they've sent. The fiasco with .XXX tells me that trying to do special cases for them is as likely as not to cause more confusion that will slow down the process even more.
R's, John
Something like this (adopting from some of the language I have seen in reviewing recent notes, mostly from John):
The ALAC recommends that the ICANN board delay the new gTLD application and implementation process until the following steps are taken:
* The economic impact study promised in 2006 has been released and evaluated. * ICANN develops and implements compliance processes to manage all requirements in existing registry and registrar contracts. * ICANN develops compliance processes for any new or different requirements in new contracts. * That IDN gTLDs and IDN ccTLDs be delayed as well until similar issues regarding contract compliance are clearly addressed and disseminated to the user community. * That ICANN evaluates user community concerns with specific details contained in the new gTLD applicant guidebook, to be conveyed in a separate communication to the ICANN board, and provides a timely response to them.
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