Re: [At-Large] [ALAC] US Introduces New Cyber Security Bill in Senate
Dear Jean Jacques, I wrote an opinion piece on the new US Cyber Security Bills see: http://www.circleid.com/posts/20130126_pandoras_box_new_us_cyber_security_bi... I agree with your proposal and support it. Best Regards, Sala On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 2:41 PM, JJS <jjs.global@gmail.com> wrote:
*Dear Salanieta,* * * *thank you for bringing this to our attention. It will be worth following. * * * *This draft bill comes on the heels of SOPA and other proposed legislation which, under the guise of protecting citizens, businesses and states, would allow public authority to curtail civic and individual rights, without adequate protection for the Internet user, under the convenient assumption that what is good for a sovereign state is of necessity good for its citizens.* * * *It is in this context, and in the face of this growing threat, that I proposed, during an ALAC monthly meeting, that we take up the subject of existing and foreseeable infringements on civic and individual rights, such as the expanding practice of DPI without proper parliamentary oversight (and this is done not only in states governed by a single political party without representative democracy).* * * *Best regards,* *Jean-Jacques.*
2013/1/26 Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com>
Dear All,
The US Senate has introduced a new Cybersecurity Bill through Senators John D. (Jay) Rockefeller IV, Chairman of the Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee, Tom Carper, incoming Chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and Dianne Feinstein, Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence where they made a Press Release, see:
http://commerce.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=PressReleases&ContentRecord_id...
To see the Bill, visit:
http://commerce.senate.gov/public/?a=Files.Serve&File_id=b678eb9a-b5c1-4540-...
This is interesting and relevant as far as it pertains to critical information infrastructure that the US considers to be part of the US Infrastructure. Whilst the models point to public private collaboration which makes sense because it is the private sector that controls much of the infrastructure anyway except in situations where if there were a State of Emergency and the rights to control/access infrastructure by the State and it has its challenges.
This Bill affects ICANN's operations as well hence the relevance.
Kind Regards,
-- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji
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-- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji Twitter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Tel: +679 3544828 Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851
I believe that it is fundamental that the Internet is a resource not only for the US or its citizens/immigrants/non-citizens, its a global resource. By no means can one country ensure the sustainability of such an expansive and globally used network. The challenge to giving up this resource's control shall always be there and other countries and regions will continue to dialogue and intervene on issues to make it a globally managed and shared resource with no single country remaining in control.
From where I come, the wide public stereotype belief remains that the US may be using the Internet to disrupt public morality and order in Pakistan. This is then further emitted towards the government. Though Pakistan is seen to remain out of the the Internet public policy debates, in the background it appears that the country does not want any external country, group or force to interfere with its Internetwork. The national exchequer/regulator has also been looking into possibilities for taxing foreign internet giants like google. The 18th Amendment to the constitution gives provinces more autonomy to look after their own issues and explore the opportunity to regulate and tax foreign corporation activities in Pakistan. There may be two forms of such regulations in the future such as federal and provincial regulations.
Though the issues of civil rights/liberties and privacy are relatively new to the population of Pakistan but the population possibly remains alien to such issues as access to the Internet is cheap from western point of view but according to the local financial and inflation situation, its still a very expensive resource. Now these insights would have no meaning for US legislators because the world from the US point of view is a global government that the US must uphold across the globe and our country would become an insignificant portion of that global order. These statements and claims on the Internet reveal this disparity that the world countries are under a global government of one nation that needs to keep the network working according to its perception and purview. That is where the world comes into conflict with such perceptions. Best Fouad On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Jean Jacques,
I wrote an opinion piece on the new US Cyber Security Bills see:
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20130126_pandoras_box_new_us_cyber_security_bi...
I agree with your proposal and support it.
Best Regards, Sala
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 2:41 PM, JJS <jjs.global@gmail.com> wrote:
*Dear Salanieta,* * * *thank you for bringing this to our attention. It will be worth following. * * * *This draft bill comes on the heels of SOPA and other proposed legislation which, under the guise of protecting citizens, businesses and states, would allow public authority to curtail civic and individual rights, without adequate protection for the Internet user, under the convenient assumption that what is good for a sovereign state is of necessity good for its citizens.* * * *It is in this context, and in the face of this growing threat, that I proposed, during an ALAC monthly meeting, that we take up the subject of existing and foreseeable infringements on civic and individual rights, such as the expanding practice of DPI without proper parliamentary oversight (and this is done not only in states governed by a single political party without representative democracy).* * * *Best regards,* *Jean-Jacques.*
2013/1/26 Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com>
Dear All,
The US Senate has introduced a new Cybersecurity Bill through Senators John D. (Jay) Rockefeller IV, Chairman of the Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee, Tom Carper, incoming Chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and Dianne Feinstein, Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence where they made a Press Release, see:
http://commerce.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=PressReleases&ContentRecord_id...
To see the Bill, visit:
http://commerce.senate.gov/public/?a=Files.Serve&File_id=b678eb9a-b5c1-4540-...
This is interesting and relevant as far as it pertains to critical information infrastructure that the US considers to be part of the US Infrastructure. Whilst the models point to public private collaboration which makes sense because it is the private sector that controls much of the infrastructure anyway except in situations where if there were a State of Emergency and the rights to control/access infrastructure by the State and it has its challenges.
This Bill affects ICANN's operations as well hence the relevance.
Kind Regards,
-- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji
Twitter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Tel: +679 3544828 Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851 _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac
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-- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji
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-- Regards. -------------------------- Fouad Bajwa ICT4D and Internet Governance Advisor My Blog: Internet's Governance: http://internetsgovernance.blogspot.com/ Follow my Tweets: http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa
Hi all, There are 2 things I don't understand aboout this thread: 1, What's it to do with ICANN? 2. The Senate bill is seemingly devoid of any content, programs or plan that would do ANYTHING, let alone fundamentally change the Internet. I think what we are seeing here is knee-jerk reactions. -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:11 AM, Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa@gmail.com> wrote:
I believe that it is fundamental that the Internet is a resource not only for the US or its citizens/immigrants/non-citizens, its a global resource. By no means can one country ensure the sustainability of such an expansive and globally used network. The challenge to giving up this resource's control shall always be there and other countries and regions will continue to dialogue and intervene on issues to make it a globally managed and shared resource with no single country remaining in control.
From where I come, the wide public stereotype belief remains that the US may be using the Internet to disrupt public morality and order in Pakistan. This is then further emitted towards the government. Though Pakistan is seen to remain out of the the Internet public policy debates, in the background it appears that the country does not want any external country, group or force to interfere with its Internetwork. The national exchequer/regulator has also been looking into possibilities for taxing foreign internet giants like google. The 18th Amendment to the constitution gives provinces more autonomy to look after their own issues and explore the opportunity to regulate and tax foreign corporation activities in Pakistan. There may be two forms of such regulations in the future such as federal and provincial regulations.
Though the issues of civil rights/liberties and privacy are relatively new to the population of Pakistan but the population possibly remains alien to such issues as access to the Internet is cheap from western point of view but according to the local financial and inflation situation, its still a very expensive resource.
Now these insights would have no meaning for US legislators because the world from the US point of view is a global government that the US must uphold across the globe and our country would become an insignificant portion of that global order. These statements and claims on the Internet reveal this disparity that the world countries are under a global government of one nation that needs to keep the network working according to its perception and purview. That is where the world comes into conflict with such perceptions.
Best
Fouad
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Jean Jacques,
I wrote an opinion piece on the new US Cyber Security Bills see:
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20130126_pandoras_box_new_us_cyber_security_bi...
I agree with your proposal and support it.
Best Regards, Sala
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 2:41 PM, JJS <jjs.global@gmail.com> wrote:
*Dear Salanieta,* * * *thank you for bringing this to our attention. It will be worth following. * * * *This draft bill comes on the heels of SOPA and other proposed legislation which, under the guise of protecting citizens, businesses and states, would allow public authority to curtail civic and individual rights, without adequate protection for the Internet user, under the convenient assumption that what is good for a sovereign state is of necessity good for its citizens.* * * *It is in this context, and in the face of this growing threat, that I proposed, during an ALAC monthly meeting, that we take up the subject of existing and foreseeable infringements on civic and individual rights, such as the expanding practice of DPI without proper parliamentary oversight (and this is done not only in states governed by a single political party without representative democracy).* * * *Best regards,* *Jean-Jacques.*
2013/1/26 Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com>
Dear All,
The US Senate has introduced a new Cybersecurity Bill through Senators John D. (Jay) Rockefeller IV, Chairman of the Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee, Tom Carper, incoming Chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and Dianne Feinstein, Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence where they made a Press Release, see:
http://commerce.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=PressReleases&ContentRecord_id...
To see the Bill, visit:
http://commerce.senate.gov/public/?a=Files.Serve&File_id=b678eb9a-b5c1-4540-...
This is interesting and relevant as far as it pertains to critical information infrastructure that the US considers to be part of the US Infrastructure. Whilst the models point to public private collaboration which makes sense because it is the private sector that controls much of the infrastructure anyway except in situations where if there were a State of Emergency and the rights to control/access infrastructure by the State and it has its challenges.
This Bill affects ICANN's operations as well hence the relevance.
Kind Regards,
-- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji
Twitter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Tel: +679 3544828 Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851 _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac
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-- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji
Twitter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Tel: +679 3544828 Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851 _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
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1, What's it to do with ICANN?
Good question.
2. The Senate bill is seemingly devoid of any content, programs or plan that would do ANYTHING, let alone fundamentally change the Internet.
Keep in mind that the US is not a parliamentary system. Vast numbers of bills are filed, most of which never get out of committee. A new bill is not very interesting unless it has a lot of support from members of both parties, which in this Congress is rare. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly
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