Re: [At-Large] Michael Geist's Article
Thanks for this, Glenn. I identified this and like issue as a threat to the global public interest when I presented at the Cloud Conference 2011 in KIN - sponsored by the UWI's Mona School of Business and the ITU - 2 weeks ago. The slides that were central to the theme are attached. - Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:00 AM, <na-discuss-request@atlarge-lists.icann.org
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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 20:05:24 -0500 From: Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> Subject: [NA-Discuss] Michael Geist Article To: nom-comm-2012@icann.org, na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org
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http://www.thestar.com/article/1085475--geist-internet-belongs-to-us-u-s-arg...
Geist: Internet belongs to us, U.S. argues Published On Sat Nov 12 2011
Hi Carlton Interesting Presentation regards Dr.V.C.Vivekanandan Ministry of HRD IP Chair Professor NALSAR University of Law 3-5-874/18 Apollo Hospital Lane,Hyderguda,Hyderabad- 500029- India Director-Legal Information Institute of India- www.liiofindia.org Director- Insitute of Global Internet Governance & Advocacy (GIGA) Adjunct Visiting Professor, University of Buffalo Business School, New York Ph:+91-40-23210170/ Mobile-+91-9866050494 vivek@nalsarpro.org,personal:vivekvc2001@yahoo.co.in visit www.liiofindia.org- one stop free legal portal for Indian laws & Treaties
________________________________ From: Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> To: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org; At-Large Worldwide <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Sent: Monday, 14 November 2011 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [At-Large] Michael Geist's Article
Thanks for this, Glenn.
I identified this and like issue as a threat to the global public interest when I presented at the Cloud Conference 2011 in KIN - sponsored by the UWI's Mona School of Business and the ITU - 2 weeks ago.
The slides that were central to the theme are attached.
- Carlton
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:00 AM, <na-discuss-request@atlarge-lists.icann.org
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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 20:05:24 -0500 From: Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> Subject: [NA-Discuss] Michael Geist Article To: nom-comm-2012@icann.org, na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org
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http://www.thestar.com/article/1085475--geist-internet-belongs-to-us-u-s-arg...
Geist: Internet belongs to us, U.S. argues Published On Sat Nov 12 2011
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Dear Carlton, I read Geist's article and your presentation and found it really interesting. You highlighted some very interesting features of the cloud phenomena.Your presentation highlighted the strengths and weaknesses of the cloud phenomena and helps to set a platform for some excellent discussion. It will be interesting to see the outcome of SOPA. This will be the ultimate test of enforcement of extra-territorial jurisdiction. The SOPA developments reminds me of this case involving a domain name seizure: http://www.publicknowledge.org/blog/us-government-rojadirecta-owners-must-pr... -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851
The Stop Online Piracy Act that is currently being debated by the US Congress is available here: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c112:1:./temp/~c11213UD8d:: The Rojadirecta Petition to recover their domain name is available here: https://www.eff.org/files/Petition%20for%20Release%20of%20Seized%20Goods%20F... On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Carlton,
I read Geist's article and your presentation and found it really interesting. You highlighted some very interesting features of the cloud phenomena.Your presentation highlighted the strengths and weaknesses of the cloud phenomena and helps to set a platform for some excellent discussion.
It will be interesting to see the outcome of SOPA. This will be the ultimate test of enforcement of extra-territorial jurisdiction.
The SOPA developments reminds me of this case involving a domain name seizure: http://www.publicknowledge.org/blog/us-government-rojadirecta-owners-must-pr...
-- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala
Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851
-- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851
Dear Sala: Very thought-provoking contribution here. I have been following the Rojadirecta case since inception and in my voice over, gives it as an example. What bothers me more than anything is that our Uncle Sam acts first then YOU, the injured party, must show cause why you should not have suffered injury. Here is the clear case of prior restraint in law with implications beyond one party. The more than continuing irritation is the sponsorship of these laws in the Congress; some of these fellows are not exactly burdened with sense - not even common sense! In my part of the world lord know we elect crooks from time to time. But never common fools. - Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Carlton,
I read Geist's article and your presentation and found it really interesting. You highlighted some very interesting features of the cloud phenomena.Your presentation highlighted the strengths and weaknesses of the cloud phenomena and helps to set a platform for some excellent discussion.
It will be interesting to see the outcome of SOPA. This will be the ultimate test of enforcement of extra-territorial jurisdiction.
The SOPA developments reminds me of this case involving a domain name seizure:
http://www.publicknowledge.org/blog/us-government-rojadirecta-owners-must-pr...
-- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala
Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
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I saw this on Twitter this morning, see: https://s3.amazonaws.com/access.3cdn.net/ea0af5a75bcbfe15c4_v0m6bxvv4.pdf Sala On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com>wrote:
Dear Sala: Very thought-provoking contribution here. I have been following the Rojadirecta case since inception and in my voice over, gives it as an example.
What bothers me more than anything is that our Uncle Sam acts first then YOU, the injured party, must show cause why you should not have suffered injury. Here is the clear case of prior restraint in law with implications beyond one party.
The more than continuing irritation is the sponsorship of these laws in the Congress; some of these fellows are not exactly burdened with sense - not even common sense!
In my part of the world lord know we elect crooks from time to time. But never common fools.
- Carlton
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Carlton,
I read Geist's article and your presentation and found it really interesting. You highlighted some very interesting features of the cloud phenomena.Your presentation highlighted the strengths and weaknesses of the cloud phenomena and helps to set a platform for some excellent discussion.
It will be interesting to see the outcome of SOPA. This will be the ultimate test of enforcement of extra-territorial jurisdiction.
The SOPA developments reminds me of this case involving a domain name seizure:
http://www.publicknowledge.org/blog/us-government-rojadirecta-owners-must-pr...
-- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala
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-- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851
This was also on Twitter: http://www.cdt.org/files/pdfs/SOPA%202-pager%20final.pdf I found it interesting. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
I saw this on Twitter this morning, see: https://s3.amazonaws.com/access.3cdn.net/ea0af5a75bcbfe15c4_v0m6bxvv4.pdf
Sala
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Carlton Samuels < carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sala: Very thought-provoking contribution here. I have been following the Rojadirecta case since inception and in my voice over, gives it as an example.
What bothers me more than anything is that our Uncle Sam acts first then YOU, the injured party, must show cause why you should not have suffered injury. Here is the clear case of prior restraint in law with implications beyond one party.
The more than continuing irritation is the sponsorship of these laws in the Congress; some of these fellows are not exactly burdened with sense - not even common sense!
In my part of the world lord know we elect crooks from time to time. But never common fools.
- Carlton
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Carlton,
I read Geist's article and your presentation and found it really interesting. You highlighted some very interesting features of the cloud phenomena.Your presentation highlighted the strengths and weaknesses of the cloud phenomena and helps to set a platform for some excellent discussion.
It will be interesting to see the outcome of SOPA. This will be the ultimate test of enforcement of extra-territorial jurisdiction.
The SOPA developments reminds me of this case involving a domain name seizure:
http://www.publicknowledge.org/blog/us-government-rojadirecta-owners-must-pr...
-- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala
Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
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-- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala
Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851
-- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851
Thanks Sala. I heard of this effort after the fact. Would have signed - in my own right - if that was possible. - Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
I saw this on Twitter this morning, see: https://s3.amazonaws.com/access.3cdn.net/ea0af5a75bcbfe15c4_v0m6bxvv4.pdf
Sala
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com>wrote:
Dear Sala: Very thought-provoking contribution here. I have been following the Rojadirecta case since inception and in my voice over, gives it as an example.
What bothers me more than anything is that our Uncle Sam acts first then YOU, the injured party, must show cause why you should not have suffered injury. Here is the clear case of prior restraint in law with implications beyond one party.
The more than continuing irritation is the sponsorship of these laws in the Congress; some of these fellows are not exactly burdened with sense - not even common sense!
In my part of the world lord know we elect crooks from time to time. But never common fools.
- Carlton
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Carlton,
I read Geist's article and your presentation and found it really interesting. You highlighted some very interesting features of the cloud phenomena.Your presentation highlighted the strengths and weaknesses of the cloud phenomena and helps to set a platform for some excellent discussion.
It will be interesting to see the outcome of SOPA. This will be the ultimate test of enforcement of extra-territorial jurisdiction.
The SOPA developments reminds me of this case involving a domain name seizure:
http://www.publicknowledge.org/blog/us-government-rojadirecta-owners-must-pr...
-- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala
Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
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