Re: [At-Large] Res: "We can't be bothered to vote; so just send us the travel vouchers for Cairo"
At 27/09/2008 11:41 AM, Bill Silverstein wrote:
Hi Bill I guess you don't live in the developing world. Our access isn't as guaranteed as in the North. But we are still Internet users and have a right to be able to participate as best we can until we get up to your levels of service. Jacqueline
I can understand that. But, as part of the obligation that one takes on is the obligation to perform those duties online. Of course, I had not used the internet in the islands. I had used the internet in China at a university back when the only connection for the school was dialup (for the entire school) to the great firewall in China.
I live in Canada and have a reasonably reliable 3 megabit ISDN connection. I also travel a lot, but in developed and developing countries. And I can be without e-mail for a day or three, can only download small e-mails for a week (due to speed and reliability), and have close to no web access for a week. If access is ALWAYS that bad, then the person probably cannot meet there ICANN obligations and needs to say so. If we want participation from people who suffer such conditions on a less regular basis, we need to make sure that we factor in such conditions when we design our work processes. Alan
Hi Alan I'm not sure if this is relevant, but Vietnam has been hit by a typhoon and is badly flooded - that might be a reason for non-participation of Hue in this vote? Jacqueline Alan Greenberg wrote:
At 27/09/2008 11:41 AM, Bill Silverstein wrote:
Hi Bill I guess you don't live in the developing world. Our access isn't as guaranteed as in the North. But we are still Internet users and have a right to be able to participate as best we can until we get up to your levels of service. Jacqueline
I can understand that. But, as part of the obligation that one takes on is the obligation to perform those duties online. Of course, I had not used the internet in the islands. I had used the internet in China at a university back when the only connection for the school was dialup (for the entire school) to the great firewall in China.
I live in Canada and have a reasonably reliable 3 megabit ISDN connection. I also travel a lot, but in developed and developing countries. And I can be without e-mail for a day or three, can only download small e-mails for a week (due to speed and reliability), and have close to no web access for a week.
If access is ALWAYS that bad, then the person probably cannot meet there ICANN obligations and needs to say so.
If we want participation from people who suffer such conditions on a less regular basis, we need to make sure that we factor in such conditions when we design our work processes.
Alan
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Also - has it been that the same ppl consistently miss the same things? Is continuous access the problem or is it that sometimes the access is not available when the vote is scheduled? It might be interesting to try to schedule votes so that someone can vote on many items at once, and known well in advance so that if there's a problem, there's time to make alternate arrangements to access? Sometimes I see an email come out and the vote closes in a week, however sometimes ppl may not have access to email for a week, so then that time might be too short... For example, for me sometimes - I get dropped quite regularly (pretty much every time it rains badly) so then I might miss email for a day or 2, and when I get back on, realise that something came out with a deadline of a couple days or even less, so of course I missed it. Jacqueline Alan Greenberg wrote:
At 27/09/2008 11:41 AM, Bill Silverstein wrote:
Hi Bill I guess you don't live in the developing world. Our access isn't as guaranteed as in the North. But we are still Internet users and have a right to be able to participate as best we can until we get up to your levels of service. Jacqueline
I can understand that. But, as part of the obligation that one takes on is the obligation to perform those duties online. Of course, I had not used the internet in the islands. I had used the internet in China at a university back when the only connection for the school was dialup (for the entire school) to the great firewall in China.
I live in Canada and have a reasonably reliable 3 megabit ISDN connection. I also travel a lot, but in developed and developing countries. And I can be without e-mail for a day or three, can only download small e-mails for a week (due to speed and reliability), and have close to no web access for a week.
If access is ALWAYS that bad, then the person probably cannot meet there ICANN obligations and needs to say so.
If we want participation from people who suffer such conditions on a less regular basis, we need to make sure that we factor in such conditions when we design our work processes.
Alan
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Alan Greenberg -
Jacqueline A. Morris