Fwd: [IANA-issues] Fwd: TRANSITION - FOR US CITIZEN REPRESENTATIVES OF THE NCSG (Typo corrected version, with apology)
FYI -- this issue is of importance. The ICANN community has worked for a long time on this transition. The ALAC has ratified the plans for transition. Now it's time for the US Congress to pass it through, but Acts have been proposed at US Senate and Congress to block it. This message is for US citizens who are part of At-Large to let their representative know they oppose the Acts to block the transition. Of course, in your initiative, identify yourself as a member of the At-Large Community, the end users at ICANN. Kindest regards, Olivier -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [IANA-issues] Fwd: TRANSITION - FOR US CITIZEN REPRESENTATIVES OF THE NCSG (Typo corrected version, with apology) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 06:37:53 +0100 From: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> To: iana-issues@atlarge-lists.icann.org Saw this on the NCSG list and thought might be relevant info here as well. US citizens here may also want to do the needful. Cheers! Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Edward Morris" <egmorris1@toast.net <mailto:egmorris1@toast.net>> Date: 9 Sep 2016 2:15 a.m. Subject: TRANSITION - FOR US CITIZEN REPRESENTATIVES OF THE NCSG (Typo corrected version, with apology) To: <NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu>> Cc: Hello everybody, Next week is a crucial time in the life of the transition. The administration needs to notify Congress by September 15th of it's intention to proceed. Although a high priority issue for a few Congressmen in the so called House Freedom Caucus, the transition is something that has really flown under the radar for most Senators and Representatives. I'd like to tell everyone in the NCSG that the United States Congress cares about what you think. It does not. Individual Congresspersons, though, do care what their constituents think - that's where we need your help. American members of the NCSG, both institutions and individuals, it's time to let your elected representatives know what you think of the transition. The best way to do this is to call Washington and tell your Senator, Representative or their staff person what you want them to do regarding the elimination of US government stewardship of the internet through the IANA contract. Please today please call your Senator or Representative, or preferably both, today and tell them that: 1. You, or your organisation, are active members of the ICANN community representing noncommercial users, 2. You support the transition of the internet from the US government to the multi-stakeholder community (if you do), 3. (For Senators) You oppose S3034, the mis-named Protecting Internet Freedom Act, or 4. (For Representatives) You oppose HR 5329, the Securing America's Internet Domains Act of 2016, You can reach your Senator or Representative through the Capitol switchboard at 202-224-3121. If you do not know your representative you can obtain his or her identity here: http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/ <http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/> Expat Americans should contact the Senator and Representative of the district where you currently cast your remote ballot in elections (or where you last resided, if you do not currently vote in the United States). In addition, please call the Secretary of the Department of Congress Penny Pritzker at 202-482-2112 and: 1. Identify yourself, your affiliation and that you are an active member of the ICANN community representing noncommercial users and that 2. you support the transition (if you do) and expect the Department of Commerce to proceed as scheduled at the end of this month and not extend the current IANA contract or propose a new one. The time to talk is over: Americans. If you want he transition to occur the time to act is *today. Not Monday, today. *The way to act is by calling, not writing. The impact is much greater. Thank you for your consideration. Best, Ed Morris
On one hand, I have no intention of denigrating the massive amounts of work and end-user perspective that Olivier and the rest of our team have contributed to the IANA transition effort. I suspect, however, that circumstances over which none of us has control have taken over. If the success of all this comes down to American supporters of ICANN writing their politicians, it's already lost. Those outside the bubble are exacting their revenge. Senator Cruz is despised by most other members of Congress, yet here he realizes that he has latched onto an issue in which he can find popular support, and he is riding as far into the headlines as he can. I can't fault Cruz for exploiting the situation, because ICANN has made itself the easiest of targets. It has no friends outside of its own bubble in the US or anywhere else, and has only itself to blame for the current situation: - In refusing to acknowledge its role as a regulator - In allowing itself to be captured by the industry it is charged to oversee, but upon which it is now financially dependent - In asserting opaque processes that require legal action to inspect - In relegating the voice of the billions of Internet users to a sideline position when it should be front-and-centre - In resisting the participation of governments who are then expected to respect its outcomes The message from Ed Morris that Olivier copies exhorts Americans to, in their pleas to Congress, identify themselves as members of the ICANN community. How can that help? Congress already knows that those inside the bubble love the process that they designed. What Congress doesn't know is what people *outside* the bubble are thinking. Or if they even care. At very least, ICANN should have by now come up with an education program that explained what is proposed, and why this is a good thing, in a form understandable by *everyone*. Perhaps there is a fear that, once explained in simple terms, the proposed transition will actually attract more public opposition than support. This fear is justified. - Evan On 9 September 2016 at 09:26, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
FYI -- this issue is of importance.
The ICANN community has worked for a long time on this transition. The ALAC has ratified the plans for transition. Now it's time for the US Congress to pass it through, but Acts have been proposed at US Senate and Congress to block it. This message is for US citizens who are part of At-Large to let their representative know they oppose the Acts to block the transition. Of course, in your initiative, identify yourself as a member of the At-Large Community, the end users at ICANN. Kindest regards,
Olivier
-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [IANA-issues] Fwd: TRANSITION - FOR US CITIZEN REPRESENTATIVES OF THE NCSG (Typo corrected version, with apology) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 06:37:53 +0100 From: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> To: iana-issues@atlarge-lists.icann.org
Saw this on the NCSG list and thought might be relevant info here as well. US citizens here may also want to do the needful.
Cheers!
Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Edward Morris" <egmorris1@toast.net> Date: 9 Sep 2016 2:15 a.m. Subject: TRANSITION - FOR US CITIZEN REPRESENTATIVES OF THE NCSG (Typo corrected version, with apology) To: <NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu> Cc:
Hello everybody,
Next week is a crucial time in the life of the transition. The administration needs to notify Congress by September 15th of it's intention to proceed. Although a high priority issue for a few Congressmen in the so called House Freedom Caucus, the transition is something that has really flown under the radar for most Senators and Representatives.
I'd like to tell everyone in the NCSG that the United States Congress cares about what you think. It does not. Individual Congresspersons, though, do care what their constituents think - that's where we need your help. American members of the NCSG, both institutions and individuals, it's time to let your elected representatives know what you think of the transition. The best way to do this is to call Washington and tell your Senator, Representative or their staff person what you want them to do regarding the elimination of US government stewardship of the internet through the IANA contract.
Please today please call your Senator or Representative, or preferably both, today and tell them that:
1. You, or your organisation, are active members of the ICANN community representing noncommercial users,
2. You support the transition of the internet from the US government to the multi-stakeholder community (if you do),
3. (For Senators) You oppose S3034, the mis-named Protecting Internet Freedom Act, or
4. (For Representatives) You oppose HR 5329, the Securing America's Internet Domains Act of 2016,
You can reach your Senator or Representative through the Capitol switchboard at 202-224-3121.
If you do not know your representative you can obtain his or her identity here: http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/ Expat Americans should contact the Senator and Representative of the district where you currently cast your remote ballot in elections (or where you last resided, if you do not currently vote in the United States).
In addition, please call the Secretary of the Department of Congress Penny Pritzker at 202-482-2112 and: 1. Identify yourself, your affiliation and that you are an active member of the ICANN community representing noncommercial users and that 2. you support the transition (if you do) and expect the Department of Commerce to proceed as scheduled at the end of this month and not extend the current IANA contract or propose a new one.
The time to talk is over: Americans. If you want he transition to occur the time to act is *today. Not Monday, today. *The way to act is by calling, not writing. The impact is much greater.
Thank you for your consideration.
Best,
Ed Morris
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On 09/09/2016 11:58, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
At very least, ICANN should have by now come up with an education program that explained what is proposed, and why this is a good thing, in a form understandable by *everyone*. Perhaps there is a fear that, once explained in simple terms, the proposed transition will actually attract more public opposition than support. This fear is justified.
I'd say ICANN plus IETF plus the RIRs should have done that. I haven't seen anything such. Anyone? Olivier
Brexit vote shows that last minute mass market education of complex issues and realities is likely futile in the face of political rage and opportunism. That work should have been prioritised in 2000 and again on ICANNs reforms over the last decade. My personal view is that the best way to have stabilised this is for Internet users to have direct participation in IP and Domain allocations they use. But Internet users have been pushed so far from having a direct say in their domain names or IP address allocations by ICANN, IANA, RIRs and LIRs that their very disengagement now risks the edifice that has been built by for those who kept them out. Christian Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
On 09/09/2016 11:58, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
At very least, ICANN should have by now come up with an education program that explained what is proposed, and why this is a good thing, in a form understandable by *everyone*. Perhaps there is a fear that, once explained in simple terms, the proposed transition will actually attract more public opposition than support. This fear is justified.
I'd say ICANN plus IETF plus the RIRs should have done that. I haven't seen anything such. Anyone?
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On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
I haven't seen anything such. Anyone?
From google https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd3dH90tdhk
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On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com <mailto:ocl@gih.com>> wrote:
I haven't seen anything such. Anyone?
From google https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd3dH90tdhk
Oh yes I'm well aware of this excellent Google video. But ICANN? RIRs? IETF? Google also does excellent videos about all sorts of other topics. They're not that costly to make. Why is ICANN not doing this? Kindest regards, Olivier
...and just as we speak about this, as if by chance: On 09/09/2016 13:13, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
I'd say ICANN plus IETF plus the RIRs should have done that. I haven't seen anything such. Anyone?
An Op-Ed piece by Kathy Brown, President and CEO of the Internet Society: http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/technology/295021-inaccurate-rhetoric... -- Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
I'd say ICANN plus IETF plus the RIRs should have done that. I haven't seen anything such. Anyone?
That's because you are not the target. ISOC (which is the organizational umbrella for IETF) has been talking to the Congress all along. Their office is just outside D.C. so they can have frequent informal conversations. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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