(In reply to Veni's post in this thread) Veni, I don't agree with you. Here is why: "lots of criticism by the well known experts" - that is, 2 or 3 persons in their blogs (most against the IDNs in principle), while many others approved or were neutral. "They do not provide a good service right now" - should be "their TLDs are not supported by the ICANN root servers, so not everybody has resolving for them". That is what we are applying for, eventually. "(the Bulgarian .info domain) contains the same characters as in Russian, Mongolian, Macedonian, Serbian etc.". Like the English .info domain contains the same characters as in any other language that uses Latin alphabet. Also, 3 out of its 4 letters are depicted differently than in any other alphabet I am aware of - so, the ".py" against ".ру" problem is impossible. About the arguments of Daniel: "Even if some of the restrictions in place are not popular, they in fact reflect the reality in Bulgaria and the constraints by existing laws and common practices." - No laws or common practice in BG require these restrictions; Veni has pointed this many times, and assembled protests because of it. The price of a .bg domain is $52, and it takes 1 to 3 months and lots of paperwork to get one (.com/.net/.org is $7 in BG, and takes 10 seconds to get one). (http://www.bol.bg/protest/protest_e.htm), (http://bg.linux-bg.org) "The quoted numbers are however wrong, with BG registrations underestimaed and non-BG registrations exagerated." - We stand by our numbers. (http://georgi.unixsol.org/bg/) "Register.BG is well prepared to implement Bulgarian IDN TLD, both technically and in with proper policy to encourage mass deployment." - We have already proven our ability and preparation. Sincerely, Grigor Gatchev Uninet vice-chairman
Grigor, you don't agree, I guess because you are part of the group, who is trying to implement something to "replace" or "enhance" (as you see it) the current TLD administration in Bulgaria. I am copying Daniel, as some of your remarks are related to him, and I am not his lawyer or representative. I'd like to use this, as I am not convinced it has anything to do with the At-Large, in order to suggest that we move this discussion into a mailing list, which ISOC-Bulgaria can organize immediately, and as we are a certified ALS, we would gladly accept such a discussion. Once the discussion is over in Bulgaria, it would be very good to bring the results to this list. I will set up the list immediately, and will send you and Daniel invitations to participate, and you can tell other interested parties to join. Best, Veni At 01:03 28.12.2007 +0200, Grigor Gatchev wrote:
(In reply to Veni's post in this thread) Veni, I don't agree with you. Here is why: "lots of criticism by the well known experts" - that is, 2 or 3 persons in their blogs (most against the IDNs in principle), while many others approved or were neutral. "They do not provide a good service right now" - should be "their TLDs are not supported by the ICANN root servers, so not everybody has resolving for them". That is what we are applying for, eventually. "(the Bulgarian .info domain) contains the same characters as in Russian, Mongolian, Macedonian, Serbian etc.". Like the English .info domain contains the same characters as in any other language that uses Latin alphabet. Also, 3 out of its 4 letters are depicted differently than in any other alphabet I am aware of - so, the ".py" against ".я─я┐" problem is impossible. About the arguments of Daniel: "Even if some of the restrictions in place are not popular, they in fact reflect the reality in Bulgaria and the constraints by existing laws and common practices." - No laws or common practice in BG require these restrictions; Veni has pointed this many times, and assembled protests because of it. The price of a .bg domain is $52, and it takes 1 to 3 months and lots of paperwork to get one (.com/.net/.org is $7 in BG, and takes 10 seconds to get one). (http://www.bol.bg/protest/protest_e.htm), (http://bg.linux-bg.org) "The quoted numbers are however wrong, with BG registrations underestimaed and non-BG registrations exagerated." - We stand by our numbers. (http://georgi.unixsol.org/bg/) "Register.BG is well prepared to implement Bulgarian IDN TLD, both technically and in with proper policy to encourage mass deployment." - We have already proven our ability and preparation. Sincerely, Grigor Gatchev Uninet vice-chairman _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org
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