Me also! -----Original Message----- From: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Subrenat, Jean-Jacques Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 1:01 AM To: Thomas Narten Cc: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Hello, this is to request that I be unsubscribed from this "At-Large weekly posting summary", which I find not useful. Thank you. Jean-Jacques. ----- Mail original ----- De: "Thomas Narten" <narten@us.ibm.com> À: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Envoyé: Vendredi 2 Janvier 2015 06:53:04 Objet: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Total of 5 messages in the last 7 days. script run at: Fri Jan 2 00:53:04 EST 2015 Messages | Bytes | Who --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 20.00% | 1 | 25.50% | 11120 | sylvia at internautabrasil.org 20.00% | 1 | 19.61% | 8550 | admin at ttcsweb.org 20.00% | 1 | 18.97% | 8273 | narten at us.ibm.com 20.00% | 1 | 17.98% | 7839 | louis.houle at oricom.ca 20.00% | 1 | 17.93% | 7819 | b.schombe at gmail.com --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 100.00% | 5 |100.00% | 43601 | Total _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8853 - Release Date: 01/02/15

Dear Colleagues: I beg to disagree these postings are not desirable and I will tell you why. The ALAC has developed performance/engagement/utility metrics that, for better or worse, include elements that are displayed by this report. Consider then this report an artful early warning device. I should think such a one is both good and necessary for ALAC members; shooting the messenger, or, 'disappearing' the message would hardly be curative. I'm of a mind that only when the ALAC metrics are disavowed, then and only then one could reasonably insist this notification is unnecessary. -Carlton -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com> wrote:

...

this is to request that I be unsubscribed from this "At-Large weekly posting summary", which I find not useful.

Sorry, individual folk can't opt out of this message, as it's sent to the list. Everyone on the list gets it, as they do all postings.

If it's the collective sense of this list that these postings are no longer needed or desired, I will stop generating them.

Thomas

...

Jean-Jacques.

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JJ, Come on... It is *one* email a week. Block it client-side though it's a lot more work than deleting. Alejandro Pisanty Enviado desde/Sent from BlackBerry® ! !! !!! !!!! NEW PHONE NUMBER - NUEVO NUMERO DE TELEFONO +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 DESDE MEXICO SMS +525541444475 Dr. Alejandro Pisanty UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -----Original Message----- From: "Subrenat, Jean-Jacques" <jjs@dyalog.net> Sender: <at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 23:16:05 To: Carlton Samuels<carlton.samuels@gmail.com> Cc: At-Large Worldwide<at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Dear Colleagues, my request is to be unsubscribed ONLY from the "Weekly posting summary" established by T. Narten, not from other elements on the At-Large lists (this is in answer to Seun's remark). My request is based on the following considerations: 1) This "summary" was considered by some in the ALAC as a metric of effective presence and work of its members (Carlton's remark). I have long questioned the validity of this approach, and still do. This measurement not have its equivalent, say on the ICANN Board, where the "360° Review" of Directors is carried out with other tools. 2) This form of statistical data has no qualitative value, as it may record a peak of correspondence from one ALAC or At-Large member giving family news and being congratulated by everyone else, or any other topic, for that matter. 3) Nominative tracking also raises the question of how such information may or may not be used for purposes it was or was not designed for, e.g. surveillance. 4) A minor point, but non-US citizens may have noticed that the "summary" is provided by, and emanates from, an address in a US corporation. In itself this is not a cause for concern, but some questions need to be answered: was there a decision to ask/grant any particular individual/firm to carry out this statistical/nominative tracking (date, reference), was this submitted to regular review and approval, is there a separate decision to grant this as a permanent authorization? 5) It is not desirable, nor fair, that members of the At-Large and/or ALAC lists cannot ask to be unsubscribed from one item (in this case the "Weekly posting summary") without being deleted from these lists for other items and debates. 6) It goes without saying, but I wish to make clear here, that my lack of enthusiasm for this "Weekly posting summary" is in no way a judgment on the value of its author, whom I worked with as a member of the ICANN Board, and whose experience and opinion I value. Jean-Jacques. ----- Mail original ----- De: "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> À: "Thomas Narten" <narten@us.ibm.com> Cc: "Jean-Jacques Subrenat" <jjs@dyalog.net>, "At-Large Worldwide" <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Envoyé: Vendredi 2 Janvier 2015 22:13:40 Objet: Re: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Dear Colleagues: I beg to disagree these postings are not desirable and I will tell you why. The ALAC has developed performance/engagement/utility metrics that, for better or worse, include elements that are displayed by this report. Consider then this report an artful early warning device. I should think such a one is both good and necessary for ALAC members; shooting the messenger, or, 'disappearing' the message would hardly be curative. I'm of a mind that only when the ALAC metrics are disavowed, then and only then one could reasonably insist this notification is unnecessary. -Carlton -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround ============================= On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Thomas Narten < narten@us.ibm.com > wrote:

this is to request that I be unsubscribed from this "At-Large weekly posting summary", which I find not useful.

Sorry, individual folk can't opt out of this message, as it's sent to the list. Everyone on the list gets it, as they do all postings. If it's the collective sense of this list that these postings are no longer needed or desired, I will stop generating them. Thomas

Jean-Jacques.

----- Mail original ----- De: "Thomas Narten" < narten@us.ibm.com > À: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Envoyé: Vendredi 2 Janvier 2015 06:53:04 Objet: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org

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sent from Google nexus 4 kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 2 Jan 2015 23:34, "Subrenat, Jean-Jacques" <jjs@dyalog.net> wrote:

Dear Colleagues,

my request is to be unsubscribed ONLY from the "Weekly posting summary"

established by T. Narten, not from other elements on the At-Large lists (this is in answer to Seun's remark).

Hi JJ, it is indeed the weekly summary I was referring to; an individual can't be unsubscribed from such as it is sent as a normal mail. See it as a mailing list member sending many which you don't want, usually you will filter from you end (not at the mailing list server). As it's been said, it's either we all agree to stop it or review the summary reporting frequency (perhaps to monthly?), I personally like to see the reporting maintained but with monthly intervals. Although I agree that it does not really analyse the content except for counting mail headers, other detailed reports like 360 review et all will require lots of resources (human resources/funds) to get done which I don't think we really require. Having a summed up idea of a list traffic can be useful data to improve on communication methods/approaches on the list and I think that is one reason why the reporting in useful. Regards My request is based on the following considerations:

1) This "summary" was considered by some in the ALAC as a metric of

effective presence and work of its members (Carlton's remark). I have long questioned the validity of this approach, and still do. This measurement not have its equivalent, say on the ICANN Board, where the "360° Review" of Directors is carried out with other tools.

2) This form of statistical data has no qualitative value, as it may

record a peak of correspondence from one ALAC or At-Large member giving family news and being congratulated by everyone else, or any other topic, for that matter.

3) Nominative tracking also raises the question of how such information

may or may not be used for purposes it was or was not designed for, e.g. surveillance.

4) A minor point, but non-US citizens may have noticed that the "summary"

is provided by, and emanates from, an address in a US corporation. In itself this is not a cause for concern, but some questions need to be answered: was there a decision to ask/grant any particular individual/firm to carry out this statistical/nominative tracking (date, reference), was this submitted to regular review and approval, is there a separate decision to grant this as a permanent authorization?

5) It is not desirable, nor fair, that members of the At-Large and/or

ALAC lists cannot ask to be unsubscribed from one item (in this case the "Weekly posting summary") without being deleted from these lists for other items and debates.

6) It goes without saying, but I wish to make clear here, that my lack of

enthusiasm for this "Weekly posting summary" is in no way a judgment on the value of its author, whom I worked with as a member of the ICANN Board, and whose experience and opinion I value.

Jean-Jacques.

----- Mail original ----- De: "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> À: "Thomas Narten" <narten@us.ibm.com> Cc: "Jean-Jacques Subrenat" <jjs@dyalog.net>, "At-Large Worldwide" <

at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org>

Envoyé: Vendredi 2 Janvier 2015 22:13:40 Objet: Re: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org

Dear Colleagues:

I beg to disagree these postings are not desirable and I will tell you why.

The ALAC has developed performance/engagement/utility metrics that, for better or worse, include elements that are displayed by this report.

Consider then this report an artful early warning device. I should think such a one is both good and necessary for ALAC members; shooting the messenger, or, 'disappearing' the message would hardly be curative.

I'm of a mind that only when the ALAC metrics are disavowed, then and only then one could reasonably insist this notification is unnecessary.

-Carlton

-Carlton

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On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Thomas Narten < narten@us.ibm.com > wrote:

...

this is to request that I be unsubscribed from this "At-Large weekly posting summary", which I find not useful.

Sorry, individual folk can't opt out of this message, as it's sent to the list. Everyone on the list gets it, as they do all postings.

If it's the collective sense of this list that these postings are no longer needed or desired, I will stop generating them.

Thomas

...

Jean-Jacques.

----- Mail original ----- De: "Thomas Narten" < narten@us.ibm.com > À: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Envoyé: Vendredi 2 Janvier 2015 06:53:04 Objet: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org

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On a couple of items below I do agree with JJS, namely the fact that the summary is not a metric of activity, there's no "qualitative" value, etc. However, I will never endorse the banning of a post - or type of post - to this list unless it is proven to be severely harmful. Even if this logging can raise eyebrows, it is for me not a sufficient reason to impose the author to stop, considering also that these data can be elaborated by anybody using the publicly available archives. Unfortunately, these are generic messages to the list, not an additional service that subscribers can opt out. The only way not to receive these messages but leaving the ability for the sender to post to the list is an agreement on a specifically identifiable subject line (and incidentally I am under the impression that this is already the case) to allow filtering or deleting on the receiving end. If this is not acceptable, the only other way I see is to engage the ALAC Chair's authority. For instance, a poll could be launched. But is this really so important to trigger such action? Cheers, Roberto

-----Messaggio originale----- Da: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large- bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Per conto di Subrenat, Jean-Jacques Inviato: venerdì 2 gennaio 2015 23:16 A: Carlton Samuels Cc: At-Large Worldwide Oggetto: Re: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge- lists.icann.org

Dear Colleagues,

my request is to be unsubscribed ONLY from the "Weekly posting summary" established by T. Narten, not from other elements on the At-Large lists (this is in answer to Seun's remark). My request is based on the following considerations:

1) This "summary" was considered by some in the ALAC as a metric of effective presence and work of its members (Carlton's remark). I have long questioned the validity of this approach, and still do. This measurement not have its equivalent, say on the ICANN Board, where the "360° Review" of Directors is carried out with other tools.

2) This form of statistical data has no qualitative value, as it may record a peak of correspondence from one ALAC or At-Large member giving family news and being congratulated by everyone else, or any other topic, for that matter.

3) Nominative tracking also raises the question of how such information may or may not be used for purposes it was or was not designed for, e.g. surveillance.

4) A minor point, but non-US citizens may have noticed that the "summary" is provided by, and emanates from, an address in a US corporation. In itself this is not a cause for concern, but some questions need to be answered: was there a decision to ask/grant any particular individual/firm to carry out this statistical/nominative tracking (date, reference), was this submitted to regular review and approval, is there a separate decision to grant this as a permanent authorization?

5) It is not desirable, nor fair, that members of the At-Large and/or ALAC lists cannot ask to be unsubscribed from one item (in this case the "Weekly posting summary") without being deleted from these lists for other items and debates.

6) It goes without saying, but I wish to make clear here, that my lack of enthusiasm for this "Weekly posting summary" is in no way a judgment on the value of its author, whom I worked with as a member of the ICANN Board, and whose experience and opinion I value.

Jean-Jacques.

----- Mail original ----- De: "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> À: "Thomas Narten" <narten@us.ibm.com> Cc: "Jean-Jacques Subrenat" <jjs@dyalog.net>, "At-Large Worldwide" <at- large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Envoyé: Vendredi 2 Janvier 2015 22:13:40 Objet: Re: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge- lists.icann.org

Dear Colleagues:

I beg to disagree these postings are not desirable and I will tell you why.

The ALAC has developed performance/engagement/utility metrics that, for better or worse, include elements that are displayed by this report.

Consider then this report an artful early warning device. I should think such a one is both good and necessary for ALAC members; shooting the messenger, or, 'disappearing' the message would hardly be curative.

I'm of a mind that only when the ALAC metrics are disavowed, then and only then one could reasonably insist this notification is unnecessary.

-Carlton

-Carlton

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On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Thomas Narten < narten@us.ibm.com > wrote:

...

this is to request that I be unsubscribed from this "At-Large weekly posting summary", which I find not useful.

Sorry, individual folk can't opt out of this message, as it's sent to the list. Everyone on the list gets it, as they do all postings.

If it's the collective sense of this list that these postings are no longer needed or desired, I will stop generating them.

Thomas

...

Jean-Jacques.

----- Mail original ----- De: "Thomas Narten" < narten@us.ibm.com > À: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Envoyé: Vendredi 2 Janvier 2015 06:53:04 Objet: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org

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On 2 January 2015 at 17:16, Subrenat, Jean-Jacques <jjs@dyalog.net> wrote:

Dear Colleagues,

my request is to be unsubscribed ONLY from the "Weekly posting summary" established by T. Narten, not from other elements on the At-Large lists (this is in answer to Seun's remark).

​As Thomas said, that's not possible. You're on the list or off it. The available options are: 1) Thomas' automated system stops generating the messages​ 2) A brand new list is created specifically for statistics, and those who want it can opt in. 3) The status quo maintains; if there are individuals who don't like specific posts to the ALAC list (whether from Thomas or any other sources) there are dozens of ways to filter them out at the recipient level, many of which can be heavily automated (ie, in Gmail and Hotmail). Olivier has already offered some helpful pointers. ​My clear preference is for (3), in part because of the Carlton mentioned. There are many times I have had to filter unwanted senders or subjects from mailing lists to which I am subscribed. Of these situations, Thomas' automated statistics posts are by far the most benign I have encountered. ​This is not spam and it is not without purpose to anyone. I for one see value in them, IMO the onus of dealing with unwanted mail of this sort is at the end of the recipient, not the sender. ​- Evan​

What irks me (and unnecessarily fills my email box) about ICANN/ISOC lists is the flow of congratulatory emails that go to the entire list. Yes, it's great that XYZ was appointed to the ABC Working Group, but why tell me that you're congratulating him? A personal email seems far more personal and appropriate. Best, Tom Lowenhaupt On 1/5/2015 9:05 AM, Garth Graham wrote:

I actually enjoy a gentle reminder that all list serve participation follows a power law distribution where 20% of participants supply 80% of the traffic.

GG

...

On Jan 4, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> wrote:

...

On 2 January 2015 at 17:16, Subrenat, Jean-Jacques <jjs@dyalog.net> wrote:

Dear Colleagues,

my request is to be unsubscribed ONLY from the "Weekly posting summary" established by T. Narten, not from other elements on the At-Large lists (this is in answer to Seun's remark).

​As Thomas said, that's not possible. You're on the list or off it.

The available options are:

1) Thomas' automated system stops generating the messages​

2) A brand new list is created specifically for statistics, and those who want it can opt in.

3) The status quo maintains; if there are individuals who don't like specific posts to the ALAC list (whether from Thomas or any other sources) there are dozens of ways to filter them out at the recipient level, many of which can be heavily automated (ie, in Gmail and Hotmail). Olivier has already offered some helpful pointers.

​My clear preference is for (3), in part because of the Carlton mentioned. There are many times I have had to filter unwanted senders or subjects from mailing lists to which I am subscribed. Of these situations, Thomas' automated statistics posts are by far the most benign I have encountered.

​This is not spam and it is not without purpose to anyone. I for one see value in them, IMO the onus of dealing with unwanted mail of this sort is at the end of the recipient, not the sender.

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Plus 1 -- Wolf Antonio Medina Gómez wrote Mon, 5 Jan 2015 10:58:

+1 Tom Lowenhaupt

2015-01-05 10:54 GMT-05:00 Thomas Lowenhaupt <toml@communisphere.com>:

...

What irks me (and unnecessarily fills my email box) about ICANN/ISOC lists is the flow of congratulatory emails that go to the entire list. Yes, it's great that XYZ was appointed to the ABC Working Group, but why tell me that you're congratulating him? A personal email seems far more personal and appropriate.

Best,

Tom Lowenhaupt

On 1/5/2015 9:05 AM, Garth Graham wrote:

...

I actually enjoy a gentle reminder that all list serve participation follows a power law distribution where 20% of participants supply 80% of the traffic.

GG

On Jan 4, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> wrote:

...

On 2 January 2015 at 17:16, Subrenat, Jean-Jacques <jjs@dyalog.net>

...

wrote:

Dear Colleagues,

my request is to be unsubscribed ONLY from the "Weekly posting summary" established by T. Narten, not from other elements on the At-Large lists (this is in answer to Seun's remark).

​As Thomas said, that's not possible. You're on the list or off it.

The available options are:

1) Thomas' automated system stops generating the messages​

2) A brand new list is created specifically for statistics, and those who want it can opt in.

3) The status quo maintains; if there are individuals who don't like specific posts to the ALAC list (whether from Thomas or any other sources) there are dozens of ways to filter them out at the recipient level, many of which can be heavily automated (ie, in Gmail and Hotmail). Olivier has already offered some helpful pointers.

​My clear preference is for (3), in part because of the Carlton mentioned. There are many times I have had to filter unwanted senders or subjects from mailing lists to which I am subscribed. Of these situations, Thomas' automated statistics posts are by far the most benign I have encountered.

​This is not spam and it is not without purpose to anyone. I for one see value in them, IMO the onus of dealing with unwanted mail of this sort is at the end of the recipient, not the sender.

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+1 Alejandro Pisanty Enviado desde/Sent from BlackBerry® ! !! !!! !!!! NEW PHONE NUMBER - NUEVO NUMERO DE TELEFONO +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 DESDE MEXICO SMS +525541444475 Dr. Alejandro Pisanty UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -----Original Message----- From: Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> Sender: <at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 16:13:40 To: Thomas Narten<narten@us.ibm.com> Cc: At-Large Worldwide<at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Dear Colleagues: I beg to disagree these postings are not desirable and I will tell you why. The ALAC has developed performance/engagement/utility metrics that, for better or worse, include elements that are displayed by this report. Consider then this report an artful early warning device. I should think such a one is both good and necessary for ALAC members; shooting the messenger, or, 'disappearing' the message would hardly be curative. I'm of a mind that only when the ALAC metrics are disavowed, then and only then one could reasonably insist this notification is unnecessary. -Carlton -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com> wrote:

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this is to request that I be unsubscribed from this "At-Large weekly posting summary", which I find not useful.

Sorry, individual folk can't opt out of this message, as it's sent to the list. Everyone on the list gets it, as they do all postings.

If it's the collective sense of this list that these postings are no longer needed or desired, I will stop generating them.

Thomas

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Jean-Jacques.

----- Mail original ----- De: "Thomas Narten" <narten@us.ibm.com> À: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Envoyé: Vendredi 2 Janvier 2015 06:53:04 Objet: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org

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+1 Alejandro Pisanty Enviado desde/Sent from BlackBerry® ! !! !!! !!!! NEW PHONE NUMBER - NUEVO NUMERO DE TELEFONO +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 DESDE MEXICO SMS +525541444475 Dr. Alejandro Pisanty UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -----Original Message----- From: Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> Sender: <at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 16:13:40 To: Thomas Narten<narten@us.ibm.com> Cc: At-Large Worldwide<at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Dear Colleagues: I beg to disagree these postings are not desirable and I will tell you why. The ALAC has developed performance/engagement/utility metrics that, for better or worse, include elements that are displayed by this report. Consider then this report an artful early warning device. I should think such a one is both good and necessary for ALAC members; shooting the messenger, or, 'disappearing' the message would hardly be curative. I'm of a mind that only when the ALAC metrics are disavowed, then and only then one could reasonably insist this notification is unnecessary. -Carlton -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com> wrote:

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this is to request that I be unsubscribed from this "At-Large weekly posting summary", which I find not useful.

Sorry, individual folk can't opt out of this message, as it's sent to the list. Everyone on the list gets it, as they do all postings.

If it's the collective sense of this list that these postings are no longer needed or desired, I will stop generating them.

Thomas

...

Jean-Jacques.

----- Mail original ----- De: "Thomas Narten" <narten@us.ibm.com> À: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Envoyé: Vendredi 2 Janvier 2015 06:53:04 Objet: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org

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Thomas, I agree with my collegues, it's not needed, nor desired. Happy New Year Louis Houle President ISOC Quebec Le 2015-01-02 14:45, Thomas Narten a écrit :

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this is to request that I be unsubscribed from this "At-Large weekly posting summary", which I find not useful. Sorry, individual folk can't opt out of this message, as it's sent to the list. Everyone on the list gets it, as they do all postings.

If it's the collective sense of this list that these postings are no longer needed or desired, I will stop generating them.

Thomas

...

Jean-Jacques.

----- Mail original ----- De: "Thomas Narten" <narten@us.ibm.com> À: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Envoyé: Vendredi 2 Janvier 2015 06:53:04 Objet: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org

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