Seconded. Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 E-mail: dthompson@gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: Brendler, Beau [mailto:Brenbe@consumer.org] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:16 AM To: Thompson, Darlene; JFC Morfin; At-Large Staff; at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: RE: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams The motion to suspend Williams permanently was seconded by Jose Salgueiro. However, no one has officially seconded the motion to suspend JFC Morfin/Louis Bleriot/Jefsey yet. So please feel free! Procedurally speaking, I'm not sure such actions can be taken by open motion, I think the authority rests with the chair. -----Original Message----- From: Thompson, Darlene [mailto:DThompson@GOV.NU.CA] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 9:41 AM To: Brendler, Beau; JFC Morfin; At-Large Staff; at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: RE: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams Hi Beau, Do these motions need to be seconded by another ALAC member? If not, I would definitely second both this motion and the one for Jeff Williams. Why aren't we hearing from ALAC these days? D Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 E-mail: dthompson@gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Brendler, Beau Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 3:07 PM To: JFC Morfin; At-Large Staff; at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams This message makes no sense in English or in French. Don't you also operate under the alias of Louis Bleriot as well? Setting up filters and deleting messages from my mailbox hinders productivity. I hearby make a motion for the moderation of JFC Morfin. Beau Brendler -----Original Message----- From: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of JFC Morfin Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:51 PM To: Brendler, Beau; At-Large Staff; at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams At 15:34 08/08/2008, Brendler, Beau wrote:

I'd like to make a motion that the suspension be permanent, on the basis that similar warnings/suspensions have been issued many times before and ignored, and that the poster has long been known to the ICANN community as a disruptive presence.

Dear Beau, I am afraid that on such a basis many would think the first to be permanently suspended should be ... ICANN. It happens that this is precisely the theme of this year as this may be the case on Sept 1st, 2009. Don't you think it could be more productive for all of us, including Jeff Williams, to debate this point, as the NTIA does. Another discussion priority could be : why france@large has not yet received the readable terms answer promised by the Staff, what prevents it to engage into any reconsideration procedure. J'ai peur que sur cette base beaucoup ne pensent que la première à devoir être suspendue de façon permanente devrait être ... l'ICANN. Il appert que ce soit précisément le thème de cette année puisque cela peut être le cas au 1er septembre 2009. Ne pensez-vous qu'il nous serait à tous plus productif, y compris à Jeff Williams, de débattre de ce point, comme le fait le NTIA. Une autre priorité de discussion pourrait être : pourquoi france@large n'a-elle toujous pas reçu la réponse en termes lisibles promise par le Staff, lui interdisant tout appel. jfc _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.icann... At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org *** Scanned **************************************************************************** ******** SCANNED **************************************************************************** ******** _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.icann... At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org *** Scanned **************************************************************************** ******** SCANNED **************************************************************************** ********

I'm a little concerned that a member of my government is participating in the censorship of others. Thats not nice for my civil servants to be meddlers and be seen to be biased on behalf of a Canadian government agency. cheers joe baptista On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Thompson, Darlene <DThompson@gov.nu.ca>wrote:

Seconded.

Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 E-mail: dthompson@gov.nu.ca

-----Original Message----- From: Brendler, Beau [mailto:Brenbe@consumer.org] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:16 AM To: Thompson, Darlene; JFC Morfin; At-Large Staff; at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: RE: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams

The motion to suspend Williams permanently was seconded by Jose Salgueiro. However, no one has officially seconded the motion to suspend JFC Morfin/Louis Bleriot/Jefsey yet. So please feel free!

Procedurally speaking, I'm not sure such actions can be taken by open motion, I think the authority rests with the chair.

-----Original Message----- From: Thompson, Darlene [mailto:DThompson@GOV.NU.CA] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 9:41 AM To: Brendler, Beau; JFC Morfin; At-Large Staff; at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: RE: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams

Hi Beau,

Do these motions need to be seconded by another ALAC member? If not, I would definitely second both this motion and the one for Jeff Williams.

Why aren't we hearing from ALAC these days?

D

Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 E-mail: dthompson@gov.nu.ca

-----Original Message----- From: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Brendler, Beau Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 3:07 PM To: JFC Morfin; At-Large Staff; at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams

This message makes no sense in English or in French. Don't you also operate under the alias of Louis Bleriot as well? Setting up filters and deleting messages from my mailbox hinders productivity.

I hearby make a motion for the moderation of JFC Morfin.

Beau Brendler

-----Original Message----- From: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of JFC Morfin Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:51 PM To: Brendler, Beau; At-Large Staff; at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams

At 15:34 08/08/2008, Brendler, Beau wrote:

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I'd like to make a motion that the suspension be permanent, on the basis that similar warnings/suspensions have been issued many times before and ignored, and that the poster has long been known to the ICANN community as a disruptive presence.

Dear Beau, I am afraid that on such a basis many would think the first to be permanently suspended should be ... ICANN. It happens that this is precisely the theme of this year as this may be the case on Sept 1st, 2009. Don't you think it could be more productive for all of us, including Jeff Williams, to debate this point, as the NTIA does. Another discussion priority could be : why france@large has not yet received the readable terms answer promised by the Staff, what prevents it to engage into any reconsideration procedure.

J'ai peur que sur cette base beaucoup ne pensent que la première à devoir être suspendue de façon permanente devrait être ... l'ICANN. Il appert que ce soit précisément le thème de cette année puisque cela peut être le cas au 1er septembre 2009. Ne pensez-vous qu'il nous serait à tous plus productif, y compris à Jeff Williams, de débattre de ce point, comme le fait le NTIA. Une autre priorité de discussion pourrait être : pourquoi france@large n'a-elle toujous pas reçu la réponse en termes lisibles promise par le Staff, lui interdisant tout appel.

jfc

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The note below is disappointing. I'd really like to see the reports on this, because companies with existing, operational registries have a lot to gain by spreading FUD about the difficulties of this process. The background here is that pre-qualification was proposed as a mechanism to level the playing field at the application phase between incumbents and new market entrants. If you are doing away with pre- qualification, how are you going to ensure that new market entrants with the technical wherewithal to run a registry have an equal opportunity to have their application approved? -- Bret On Aug 12, 2008, at 11:43 PM, At-Large Staff wrote:

Backend Registry Certification Not Available in First Round -- On 31 January 2008, ICANN posted an announcement (http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-31jan08.htm) to inform the community that it was exploring a potential initiative for the certification of backend registry operators for new gTLDs. ICANN staff has determined not to proceed with this initiative in the first round of the new gTLD process. The initiative was suggested as a possible means to streamline the application process for new gTLDs and to create a pool of pre- qualified registry operators who could provide assistance in the event of a registry failure. Exploration of the initiative was also prompted by inquiries from community members who expressed the potential positive aspects that creation of the certification might promote.

During the exploration of the initiative, ICANN consulted with the community including technical experts and gTLD and ccTLD registries and registry service providers. Potential operational benefits and risks of implementing the initiative were assessed. Ultimately, a decision was made to not proceed with certification as part of the initial new gTLD application round based upon a number of factors. Some of these are: additional assessment as to effects certification might have on the marketplace, e.g., whether the implementation might cause expansion or contraction; additional collaboration with the community as to the terms of such a certification; and weighing the potential post-certification activities including ongoing testing, re-certification and the introduction of new compliance activities. It was also deemed important to be able to assess the positive and negative aspects of the new gTLD implementation without possible crossover effects of this additional certification. This independence of interactions can be better assured by introducing the certification (if it is deemed appropriate after additional analysis) at a later date.

Both ccTLD and gTLD backend registry operators can still offer to provide registry services to new gTLDs. The Request for Proposals for new gTLDs, when published, will detail the minimum technical criteria and pre-delegation check requirements that must be met by every applicant prior to the approval of their TLD for insertion into the root. New gTLD applicants might choose to build their own registry infrastructure and systems, retain the services of an existing gTLD or ccTLD registry services provider, or contract with another technical services provider. (8 August 2008)