Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction
The money pile grows... -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= [image: ICANN] <http://www.icann.org/> News Alert https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3-2014-12-17-en ------------------------------ Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction 17 December 2014 On 17 December 2014, Power Auctions LLC <http://www.powerauctions.com/>, ICANN's authorized auction service provider, conducted a New gTLD Program Auction to resolve string contention for two new generic top-level domain (gTLD) strings: .BABY and .MLS. Applicants for these strings were unable to resolve contention among themselves; thus their contention sets proceeded to auction, which is the method of last resort to resolve string contention as prescribed in Module 4 of the New gTLD Program Applicant Guidebook <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb>. Subject to payment of the winning price and meeting all other criteria for eligibility, the winner will enter ICANN's contracting process to sign a Registry Agreement to operate the respective gTLD. Six applicants participated in the auction for .BABY. Johnson & Johnson Services Inc. prevailed with a winning price of $3,088,888. Two applicants participated in the auction for MLS. The Canadian Real Estate Association prevailed with a winning price of $3,359,000. All proceeds from the Auction are being segregated and withheld from use until ICANN's Board of Directors define a plan for an appropriate use of the funds through consultation with the community. More Information - Auction Results webpage <https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/auctionres...>: Auction reports on this page on the New gTLD Microsite provide additional information on bidding. - Auction proceeds and costs <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/proceeds>: A detailed summary of the proceeds and costs of all auctions conducted through November 2014. This information is updated at the end of each month. - Auctions schedule <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/schedule-12dec14-en.pdf> [PDF, 253 KB]: Subsequent auctions are scheduled to occur on a monthly basis throughout 2014 and into early 2015. Auction events are intended to resolve multiple contention sets simultaneously. - General New gTLD Program Auctions <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions> information.
How long that will continue/last will be a question to answer in near future. Cheers! sent from Google nexus 4 kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 18 Dec 2014 02:02, "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote: > The money pile grows... > > -Carlton > > ============================== > Carlton A Samuels > Mobile: 876-818-1799 > *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* > ============================= > > > [image: ICANN] <http://www.icann.org/> News Alert > > https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3-2014-12-17-en > ------------------------------ > Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction > > 17 December 2014 > > On 17 December 2014, Power Auctions LLC <http://www.powerauctions.com/>, > ICANN's authorized auction service provider, conducted a New gTLD Program > Auction to resolve string contention for two new generic top-level domain > (gTLD) strings: .BABY and .MLS. Applicants for these strings were unable to > resolve contention among themselves; thus their contention sets proceeded > to auction, which is the method of last resort to resolve string contention > as prescribed in Module 4 of the New gTLD Program Applicant Guidebook > <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb>. Subject to payment of the > winning price and meeting all other criteria for eligibility, the winner > will enter ICANN's contracting process to sign a Registry Agreement to > operate the respective gTLD. > > Six applicants participated in the auction for .BABY. Johnson & Johnson > Services Inc. prevailed with a winning price of $3,088,888. > > Two applicants participated in the auction for MLS. The Canadian Real > Estate Association prevailed with a winning price of $3,359,000. > > All proceeds from the Auction are being segregated and withheld from use > until ICANN's Board of Directors define a plan for an appropriate use of > the funds through consultation with the community. > More Information > > - Auction Results webpage > < > https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/auctionresults > >: > Auction reports on this page on the New gTLD Microsite provide > additional > information on bidding. > - Auction proceeds and costs > <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/proceeds>: A detailed > summary of the proceeds and costs of all auctions conducted through > November 2014. This information is updated at the end of each month. > - Auctions schedule > < > http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/schedule-12dec14-en.pdf> > [PDF, 253 KB]: Subsequent auctions are scheduled to occur on a monthly > basis throughout 2014 and into early 2015. Auction events are intended > to > resolve multiple contention sets simultaneously. > - General New gTLD Program Auctions > <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions> information. > _______________________________________________ > At-Large mailing list > At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large > > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org >
It really hurts deeply to my public and political convictions when a generic term of language like 'baby' is auctioned off to the highest bidder for a certain, extremely important, exclusive use. What public interest has been served here? Is there anyone to ask this question? And I direct this question specifically to that part of the civil society which the rest of the world would trust should be asking the questions in the ICANN's context. Any trademark authority would have rejected out of hand if Johnson and Johnson had sought 'baby' as a trademark for itself. The reasons are obvious. But those reasons do not mean anything to ICANN, and perhaps neither to civil society groups associated with ICANN. But the trademark authorities are expressly public interest bodies, under public authorities, which are in turn subject to institutionalised public oversight and accountability. ICANN on the other hand is a system captured by a group of people, who have developed the perfect means and system to keep all those close by and powerful happy in different ways - it uses the euphemism 'stakeholders' for them. Most of all, it keeps the big daddy, the US happy, by employing various means to support its reign over theglobalInternet - it keeps a boisterous IG circuit in play that supports the status quo, and drowns out every other voice. This has been done very effectively till now. Btw, which technical governance mandate ICANN was pursuing to propose and set up the World Economic Forum based new Net Mundial Initiative, which is simply a way to divert global demands for addressing pressing Internet related public policy issues. This is done directly to appease US government's political interest, which ICANN has no business to be doing.. And then it keep the domain name industry happy and prospering, and also other major industries.... This group of people, which goes in the name of ICANN, does all this using the enormous funds that it illegally collects as a tax from global public using the Internet. This is where the money goes, and it produces conditions for further extraction. It is a sorry state. parminder On Thursday 18 December 2014 11:18 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
How long that will continue/last will be a question to answer in near future.
Cheers!
sent from Google nexus 4 kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 18 Dec 2014 02:02, "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
The money pile grows...
-Carlton
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
[image: ICANN] <http://www.icann.org/> News Alert
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3-2014-12-17-en ------------------------------ Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction
17 December 2014
On 17 December 2014, Power Auctions LLC <http://www.powerauctions.com/>, ICANN's authorized auction service provider, conducted a New gTLD Program Auction to resolve string contention for two new generic top-level domain (gTLD) strings: .BABY and .MLS. Applicants for these strings were unable to resolve contention among themselves; thus their contention sets proceeded to auction, which is the method of last resort to resolve string contention as prescribed in Module 4 of the New gTLD Program Applicant Guidebook <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb>. Subject to payment of the winning price and meeting all other criteria for eligibility, the winner will enter ICANN's contracting process to sign a Registry Agreement to operate the respective gTLD.
Six applicants participated in the auction for .BABY. Johnson & Johnson Services Inc. prevailed with a winning price of $3,088,888.
Two applicants participated in the auction for MLS. The Canadian Real Estate Association prevailed with a winning price of $3,359,000.
All proceeds from the Auction are being segregated and withheld from use until ICANN's Board of Directors define a plan for an appropriate use of the funds through consultation with the community. More Information
- Auction Results webpage < https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/auctionres...
: Auction reports on this page on the New gTLD Microsite provide additional information on bidding. - Auction proceeds and costs <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/proceeds>: A detailed summary of the proceeds and costs of all auctions conducted through November 2014. This information is updated at the end of each month. - Auctions schedule < http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/schedule-12dec14-en.pdf> [PDF, 253 KB]: Subsequent auctions are scheduled to occur on a monthly basis throughout 2014 and into early 2015. Auction events are intended to resolve multiple contention sets simultaneously. - General New gTLD Program Auctions <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions> information.
At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
Parminder, It is indeed a sorry state when one jumps to conclusions. Specification 11 of the Registry Agreement, says, in part: d. Registry Operator of a “Generic String” TLD may not impose eligibility criteria for registering names in the TLD that limit registrations exclusively to a single person or entity and/or that person’s or entity’s “Affiliates” (as defined in Section 2.9(c) of the Registry Agreement). “Generic String” means a string consisting of a word or term that denominates or describes a general class of goods, services, groups, organizations or things, as opposed to distinguishing a specific brand of goods, services, groups, organizations or things from those of others. So unless you have evidence that the winner of .baby has successfully stricken this from the RA, I would suggest that you are incorrect about this being a closed generic. -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:52 AM, parminder <parminder@itforchange.net> wrote:
It really hurts deeply to my public and political convictions when a generic term of language like 'baby' is auctioned off to the highest bidder for a certain, extremely important, exclusive use. What public interest has been served here? Is there anyone to ask this question? And I direct this question specifically to that part of the civil society which the rest of the world would trust should be asking the questions in the ICANN's context.
Any trademark authority would have rejected out of hand if Johnson and Johnson had sought 'baby' as a trademark for itself. The reasons are obvious. But those reasons do not mean anything to ICANN, and perhaps neither to civil society groups associated with ICANN.
But the trademark authorities are expressly public interest bodies, under public authorities, which are in turn subject to institutionalised public oversight and accountability.
ICANN on the other hand is a system captured by a group of people, who have developed the perfect means and system to keep all those close by and powerful happy in different ways - it uses the euphemism 'stakeholders' for them.
Most of all, it keeps the big daddy, the US happy, by employing various means to support its reign over theglobalInternet - it keeps a boisterous IG circuit in play that supports the status quo, and drowns out every other voice. This has been done very effectively till now. Btw, which technical governance mandate ICANN was pursuing to propose and set up the World Economic Forum based new Net Mundial Initiative, which is simply a way to divert global demands for addressing pressing Internet related public policy issues. This is done directly to appease US government's political interest, which ICANN has no business to be doing.. And then it keep the domain name industry happy and prospering, and also other major industries.... This group of people, which goes in the name of ICANN, does all this using the enormous funds that it illegally collects as a tax from global public using the Internet. This is where the money goes, and it produces conditions for further extraction.
It is a sorry state.
parminder
On Thursday 18 December 2014 11:18 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
How long that will continue/last will be a question to answer in near future.
Cheers!
sent from Google nexus 4 kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 18 Dec 2014 02:02, "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
The money pile grows...
-Carlton
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
[image: ICANN] <http://www.icann.org/> News Alert
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3-2014-12-17-en ------------------------------ Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction
17 December 2014
On 17 December 2014, Power Auctions LLC <http://www.powerauctions.com/>, ICANN's authorized auction service provider, conducted a New gTLD Program Auction to resolve string contention for two new generic top-level domain (gTLD) strings: .BABY and .MLS. Applicants for these strings were unable to resolve contention among themselves; thus their contention sets proceeded to auction, which is the method of last resort to resolve string contention as prescribed in Module 4 of the New gTLD Program Applicant Guidebook <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb>. Subject to payment of the winning price and meeting all other criteria for eligibility, the winner will enter ICANN's contracting process to sign a Registry Agreement to operate the respective gTLD.
Six applicants participated in the auction for .BABY. Johnson & Johnson Services Inc. prevailed with a winning price of $3,088,888.
Two applicants participated in the auction for MLS. The Canadian Real Estate Association prevailed with a winning price of $3,359,000.
All proceeds from the Auction are being segregated and withheld from use until ICANN's Board of Directors define a plan for an appropriate use of the funds through consultation with the community. More Information
- Auction Results webpage < https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/ auctionresults
:
Auction reports on this page on the New gTLD Microsite provide additional information on bidding. - Auction proceeds and costs <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/proceeds>: A detailed summary of the proceeds and costs of all auctions conducted through November 2014. This information is updated at the end of each month. - Auctions schedule < http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/schedule-12dec14-en.pdf
[PDF, 253 KB]: Subsequent auctions are scheduled to occur on a monthly basis throughout 2014 and into early 2015. Auction events are intended to resolve multiple contention sets simultaneously. - General New gTLD Program Auctions <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions> information. _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________
At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
McTim See the .baby gtld proposal from J&J at https://www.101domain.com/applications/1-1156-50969.htm GAC advice on closed generics where it lists .baby among others as the 'problematic' kind, at https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/gac-to-board-18apr13-en... GAC advice made a very valid point, any exclusive access to a gtld 'should serve a public interest goal', or that closed generics should only be allowed if they specifically serve a public interest goal. And J&J's response to GAC advice is at http://newgtlds.icann.org/sites/default/files/applicants/23may13/gac-advice-... Which is really no response, and shows nowhere how a public interest goal is served by allowing an exclusive access to J&J and its partners, plus whoever it likes, to the gtld .baby . So, yes, indeed, not only is .baby a closed generic, GAC explicitly objected to having closed generics unless a clear public interest could be established in such an allocation. J&J obviously could not show any public interest served by giving .baby to it as a closed generic. Still, ICANN goes ahead and gives .baby to J&J as a closed generic, and pockets a cool $3,088,888. So much so for ICANN being a public interest body. It is simply a key node of the global Internet illegitimately captured by some people and some interests, and the only actor who can do something about it, the US gov, looks the other way because it serves a huge lot of its strategic interests to do so... One cannot understand what and how public interest will be served now with the proposal that ICANN becomes more or less accountable to none, which is the direction of the IANA transition process. parminder On Thursday 18 December 2014 06:27 PM, McTim wrote:
Parminder,
It is indeed a sorry state when one jumps to conclusions.
Specification 11 of the Registry Agreement, says, in part:
d.Registry Operator of a “Generic String” TLD may not impose eligibility criteria for registering names in the TLD that limit registrations exclusively to a single person or entity and/or that person’s or entity’s “Affiliates” (as defined in Section 2.9(c) of the Registry Agreement). “Generic String” means a string consisting of a word or term that denominates or describes a general class of goods, services, groups, organizations or things, as opposed to distinguishing a specific brand of goods, services, groups, organizations or things from those of others.
So unless you have evidence that the winner of .baby has successfully stricken this from the RA, I would suggest that you are incorrect about this being a closed generic.
-- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:52 AM, parminder <parminder@itforchange.net <mailto:parminder@itforchange.net>> wrote:
It really hurts deeply to my public and political convictions when a generic term of language like 'baby' is auctioned off to the highest bidder for a certain, extremely important, exclusive use. What public interest has been served here? Is there anyone to ask this question? And I direct this question specifically to that part of the civil society which the rest of the world would trust should be asking the questions in the ICANN's context.
Any trademark authority would have rejected out of hand if Johnson and Johnson had sought 'baby' as a trademark for itself. The reasons are obvious. But those reasons do not mean anything to ICANN, and perhaps neither to civil society groups associated with ICANN.
But the trademark authorities are expressly public interest bodies, under public authorities, which are in turn subject to institutionalised public oversight and accountability.
ICANN on the other hand is a system captured by a group of people, who have developed the perfect means and system to keep all those close by and powerful happy in different ways - it uses the euphemism 'stakeholders' for them.
Most of all, it keeps the big daddy, the US happy, by employing various means to support its reign over theglobalInternet - it keeps a boisterous IG circuit in play that supports the status quo, and drowns out every other voice. This has been done very effectively till now. Btw, which technical governance mandate ICANN was pursuing to propose and set up the World Economic Forum based new Net Mundial Initiative, which is simply a way to divert global demands for addressing pressing Internet related public policy issues. This is done directly to appease US government's political interest, which ICANN has no business to be doing.. And then it keep the domain name industry happy and prospering, and also other major industries.... This group of people, which goes in the name of ICANN, does all this using the enormous funds that it illegally collects as a tax from global public using the Internet. This is where the money goes, and it produces conditions for further extraction.
It is a sorry state.
parminder
On Thursday 18 December 2014 11:18 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
How long that will continue/last will be a question to answer in near future.
Cheers!
sent from Google nexus 4 kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 18 Dec 2014 02:02, "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels@gmail.com <mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com>> wrote:
The money pile grows...
-Carlton
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 <tel:876-818-1799> *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
[image: ICANN] <http://www.icann.org/> News Alert
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3-2014-12-17-en ------------------------------ Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction
17 December 2014
On 17 December 2014, Power Auctions LLC <http://www.powerauctions.com/>, ICANN's authorized auction service provider, conducted a New gTLD Program Auction to resolve string contention for two new generic top-level domain (gTLD) strings: .BABY and .MLS. Applicants for these strings were unable to resolve contention among themselves; thus their contention sets proceeded to auction, which is the method of last resort to resolve string contention as prescribed in Module 4 of the New gTLD Program Applicant Guidebook <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb>. Subject to payment of the winning price and meeting all other criteria for eligibility, the winner will enter ICANN's contracting process to sign a Registry Agreement to operate the respective gTLD.
Six applicants participated in the auction for .BABY. Johnson & Johnson Services Inc. prevailed with a winning price of $3,088,888.
Two applicants participated in the auction for MLS. The Canadian Real Estate Association prevailed with a winning price of $3,359,000.
All proceeds from the Auction are being segregated and withheld from use until ICANN's Board of Directors define a plan for an appropriate use of the funds through consultation with the community. More Information
- Auction Results webpage < https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/auctionres...
:
Auction reports on this page on the New gTLD Microsite provide additional information on bidding. - Auction proceeds and costs
<http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/proceeds>: A detailed summary of the proceeds and costs of all auctions conducted through November 2014. This information is updated at the end of each month. - Auctions schedule < http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/schedule-12dec14-en.pdf> [PDF, 253 KB]: Subsequent auctions are scheduled to occur on a monthly basis throughout 2014 and into early 2015. Auction events are intended to resolve multiple contention sets simultaneously. - General New gTLD Program Auctions <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions> information. _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
Hello parminder, I am trying to understand what you mean by ICANN violating public interest in this context. Is the public interest the policy by which ICANN allocate names or the community developed policy? Generally in the naming world (both cctld and gTLD) there are reserved names (names recognised to be unique) and they are usually reserved by the operator for 2 main reasons: - To make more money - To serve specific community. Usually both of those goals may not be achieved for a particular string. So .baby I presume was reserved on reason 1 and they did business. On a lighter note though, what I wonder is how an organisation can be so dumb to spend so much to get a domain but again business strategy can look dumb on paper until implemented. Cheers! sent from Google nexus 4 kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 18 Dec 2014 18:13, "parminder" <parminder@itforchange.net> wrote:
McTim
See the .baby gtld proposal from J&J at https://www.101domain.com/ applications/1-1156-50969.htm
GAC advice on closed generics where it lists .baby among others as the 'problematic' kind, at https://www.icann.org/en/ system/files/correspondence/gac-to-board-18apr13-en.pdf
GAC advice made a very valid point, any exclusive access to a gtld 'should serve a public interest goal', or that closed generics should only be allowed if they specifically serve a public interest goal.
And J&J's response to GAC advice is at http://newgtlds.icann.org/ sites/default/files/applicants/23may13/gac-advice- response-1-1156-50969-en.pdf
Which is really no response, and shows nowhere how a public interest goal is served by allowing an exclusive access to J&J and its partners, plus whoever it likes, to the gtld .baby .
So, yes, indeed, not only is .baby a closed generic, GAC explicitly objected to having closed generics unless a clear public interest could be established in such an allocation.
J&J obviously could not show any public interest served by giving .baby to it as a closed generic.
Still, ICANN goes ahead and gives .baby to J&J as a closed generic, and pockets a cool $3,088,888.
So much so for ICANN being a public interest body. It is simply a key node of the global Internet illegitimately captured by some people and some interests, and the only actor who can do something about it, the US gov, looks the other way because it serves a huge lot of its strategic interests to do so... One cannot understand what and how public interest will be served now with the proposal that ICANN becomes more or less accountable to none, which is the direction of the IANA transition process.
parminder
On Thursday 18 December 2014 06:27 PM, McTim wrote:
Parminder,
It is indeed a sorry state when one jumps to conclusions.
Specification 11 of the Registry Agreement, says, in part:
d.Registry Operator of a “Generic String” TLD may not impose eligibility criteria for registering names in the TLD that limit registrations exclusively to a single person or entity and/or that person’s or entity’s “Affiliates” (as defined in Section 2.9(c) of the Registry Agreement). “Generic String” means a string consisting of a word or term that denominates or describes a general class of goods, services, groups, organizations or things, as opposed to distinguishing a specific brand of goods, services, groups, organizations or things from those of others.
So unless you have evidence that the winner of .baby has successfully stricken this from the RA, I would suggest that you are incorrect about this being a closed generic.
-- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:52 AM, parminder <parminder@itforchange.net <mailto:parminder@itforchange.net>> wrote:
It really hurts deeply to my public and political convictions when a generic term of language like 'baby' is auctioned off to the highest bidder for a certain, extremely important, exclusive use. What public interest has been served here? Is there anyone to ask this question? And I direct this question specifically to that part of the civil society which the rest of the world would trust should be asking the questions in the ICANN's context.
Any trademark authority would have rejected out of hand if Johnson and Johnson had sought 'baby' as a trademark for itself. The reasons are obvious. But those reasons do not mean anything to ICANN, and perhaps neither to civil society groups associated with ICANN.
But the trademark authorities are expressly public interest bodies, under public authorities, which are in turn subject to institutionalised public oversight and accountability.
ICANN on the other hand is a system captured by a group of people, who have developed the perfect means and system to keep all those close by and powerful happy in different ways - it uses the euphemism 'stakeholders' for them.
Most of all, it keeps the big daddy, the US happy, by employing various means to support its reign over theglobalInternet - it keeps a boisterous IG circuit in play that supports the status quo, and drowns out every other voice. This has been done very effectively till now. Btw, which technical governance mandate ICANN was pursuing to propose and set up the World Economic Forum based new Net Mundial Initiative, which is simply a way to divert global demands for addressing pressing Internet related public policy issues. This is done directly to appease US government's political interest, which ICANN has no business to be doing.. And then it keep the domain name industry happy and prospering, and also other major industries.... This group of people, which goes in the name of ICANN, does all this using the enormous funds that it illegally collects as a tax from global public using the Internet. This is where the money goes, and it produces conditions for further extraction.
It is a sorry state.
parminder
On Thursday 18 December 2014 11:18 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
How long that will continue/last will be a question to answer in near future.
Cheers!
sent from Google nexus 4 kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 18 Dec 2014 02:02, "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels@gmail.com <mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com>> wrote:
The money pile grows...
-Carlton
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 <tel:876-818-1799> *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
[image: ICANN] <http://www.icann.org/> News Alert
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3-2014-12-17-en ------------------------------ Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction
17 December 2014
On 17 December 2014, Power Auctions LLC <http://www.powerauctions.com/>, ICANN's authorized auction service provider, conducted a New gTLD Program Auction to resolve string contention for two new generic top-level domain (gTLD) strings: .BABY and .MLS. Applicants for these strings were unable to resolve contention among themselves; thus their contention sets proceeded to auction, which is the method of last resort to resolve string contention as prescribed in Module 4 of the New gTLD Program Applicant Guidebook <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb>. Subject to payment of the winning price and meeting all other criteria for eligibility, the winner will enter ICANN's contracting process to sign a Registry Agreement to operate the respective gTLD.
Six applicants participated in the auction for .BABY. Johnson & Johnson Services Inc. prevailed with a winning price of $3,088,888.
Two applicants participated in the auction for MLS. The Canadian Real Estate Association prevailed with a winning price of $3,359,000.
All proceeds from the Auction are being segregated and withheld from use until ICANN's Board of Directors define a plan for an appropriate use of the funds through consultation with the community. More Information
- Auction Results webpage < https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/ applicationstatus/auctionresults
:
Auction reports on this page on the New gTLD Microsite provide additional information on bidding. - Auction proceeds and costs <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/ applicants/auctions/proceeds>: A detailed summary of the proceeds and costs of all auctions conducted through November 2014. This information is updated at the end of each month. - Auctions schedule < http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/schedule- 12dec14-en.pdf> [PDF, 253 KB]: Subsequent auctions are scheduled to occur on a monthly basis throughout 2014 and into early 2015. Auction events are intended to resolve multiple contention sets simultaneously. - General New gTLD Program Auctions <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions> information. _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
I sympathize very much with the sentiment. Not only is ICANN "auctioning off "baby"", it has essentially decided that required policies for ".baby" is no different than ".shop"... The registry can make it a free for all, and not even really be required to respect the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. Personally, I think that is wrong. Edmon
-----Original Message----- From: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge- lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of parminder Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:53 PM To: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [At-Large] Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction
It really hurts deeply to my public and political convictions when a generic term of language like 'baby' is auctioned off to the highest bidder for a certain, extremely important, exclusive use. What public interest has been served here? Is there anyone to ask this question? And I direct this question specifically to that part of the civil society which the rest of the world would trust should be asking the questions in the ICANN's context.
Any trademark authority would have rejected out of hand if Johnson and Johnson had sought 'baby' as a trademark for itself. The reasons are obvious. But those reasons do not mean anything to ICANN, and perhaps neither to civil society groups associated with ICANN.
But the trademark authorities are expressly public interest bodies, under public authorities, which are in turn subject to institutionalised public oversight and accountability.
ICANN on the other hand is a system captured by a group of people, who have developed the perfect means and system to keep all those close by and powerful happy in different ways - it uses the euphemism 'stakeholders' for them.
Most of all, it keeps the big daddy, the US happy, by employing various means to support its reign over theglobalInternet - it keeps a boisterous IG circuit in play that supports the status quo, and drowns out every other voice. This has been done very effectively till now. Btw, which technical governance mandate ICANN was pursuing to propose and set up the World Economic Forum based new Net Mundial Initiative, which is simply a way to divert global demands for addressing pressing Internet related public policy issues. This is done directly to appease US government's political interest, which ICANN has no business to be doing.. And then it keep the domain name industry happy and prospering, and also other major industries.... This group of people, which goes in the name of ICANN, does all this using the enormous funds that it illegally collects as a tax from global public using the Internet. This is where the money goes, and it produces conditions for further extraction.
It is a sorry state.
parminder
On Thursday 18 December 2014 11:18 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
How long that will continue/last will be a question to answer in near future.
Cheers!
sent from Google nexus 4 kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 18 Dec 2014 02:02, "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
The money pile grows...
-Carlton
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
[image: ICANN] <http://www.icann.org/> News Alert
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3-2014-12-17-en ------------------------------ Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction
17 December 2014
On 17 December 2014, Power Auctions LLC <http://www.powerauctions.com/>, ICANN's authorized auction service provider, conducted a New gTLD Program Auction to resolve string contention for two new generic top-level domain (gTLD) strings: .BABY and .MLS. Applicants for these strings were unable to resolve contention among themselves; thus their contention sets proceeded to auction, which is the method of last resort to resolve string contention as prescribed in Module 4 of the New gTLD Program Applicant Guidebook <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb>. Subject to payment of the winning price and meeting all other criteria for eligibility, the winner will enter ICANN's contracting process to sign a Registry Agreement to operate the respective gTLD.
Six applicants participated in the auction for .BABY. Johnson & Johnson Services Inc. prevailed with a winning price of $3,088,888.
Two applicants participated in the auction for MLS. The Canadian Real Estate Association prevailed with a winning price of $3,359,000.
All proceeds from the Auction are being segregated and withheld from use until ICANN's Board of Directors define a plan for an appropriate use of the funds through consultation with the community. More Information
- Auction Results webpage < https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/auc tionresults
: Auction reports on this page on the New gTLD Microsite provide additional information on bidding. - Auction proceeds and costs <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/proceeds>: A detailed summary of the proceeds and costs of all auctions conducted through November 2014. This information is updated at the end of each month. - Auctions schedule <
http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/schedule-12dec14-en.pdf>
[PDF, 253 KB]: Subsequent auctions are scheduled to occur on a
monthly
basis throughout 2014 and into early 2015. Auction events are intended to resolve multiple contention sets simultaneously. - General New gTLD Program Auctions <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions> information. _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4235/8759 - Release Date: 12/18/14
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Edmon Chung <edmon@registry.asia> wrote:
I sympathize very much with the sentiment. Not only is ICANN "auctioning off "baby"", it has essentially decided that required policies for ".baby" is no different than ".shop"... The registry can make it a free for all, and not even really be required to respect the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. Personally, I think that is wrong.
If i may ask, what is wrong about that? i mean how is the right of a child not respected through a simple name string? I can understand referring to rights in relation to geographic strings but i don't understand the rationale behind the example sighted above Regards
Edmon
-----Original Message----- From: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge- lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of parminder Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:53 PM To: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [At-Large] Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction
It really hurts deeply to my public and political convictions when a generic term of language like 'baby' is auctioned off to the highest bidder for a certain, extremely important, exclusive use. What public interest has been served here? Is there anyone to ask this question? And I direct this question specifically to that part of the civil society which the rest of the world would trust should be asking the questions in the ICANN's context.
Any trademark authority would have rejected out of hand if Johnson and Johnson had sought 'baby' as a trademark for itself. The reasons are obvious. But those reasons do not mean anything to ICANN, and perhaps neither to civil society groups associated with ICANN.
But the trademark authorities are expressly public interest bodies, under public authorities, which are in turn subject to institutionalised public oversight and accountability.
ICANN on the other hand is a system captured by a group of people, who have developed the perfect means and system to keep all those close by and powerful happy in different ways - it uses the euphemism 'stakeholders' for them.
Most of all, it keeps the big daddy, the US happy, by employing various means to support its reign over theglobalInternet - it keeps a boisterous IG circuit in play that supports the status quo, and drowns out every other voice. This has been done very effectively till now. Btw, which technical governance mandate ICANN was pursuing to propose and set up the World Economic Forum based new Net Mundial Initiative, which is simply a way to divert global demands for addressing pressing Internet related public policy issues. This is done directly to appease US government's political interest, which ICANN has no business to be doing.. And then it keep the domain name industry happy and prospering, and also other major industries.... This group of people, which goes in the name of ICANN, does all this using the enormous funds that it illegally collects as a tax from global public using the Internet. This is where the money goes, and it produces conditions for further extraction.
It is a sorry state.
parminder
On Thursday 18 December 2014 11:18 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
How long that will continue/last will be a question to answer in near future.
Cheers!
sent from Google nexus 4 kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 18 Dec 2014 02:02, "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
The money pile grows...
-Carlton
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
[image: ICANN] <http://www.icann.org/> News Alert
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3-2014-12-17-en ------------------------------ Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction
17 December 2014
On 17 December 2014, Power Auctions LLC <http://www.powerauctions.com/>, ICANN's authorized auction service provider, conducted a New gTLD Program Auction to resolve string contention for two new generic top-level domain (gTLD) strings: .BABY and .MLS. Applicants for these strings were unable to resolve contention among themselves; thus their contention sets proceeded to auction, which is the method of last resort to resolve string contention as prescribed in Module 4 of the New gTLD Program Applicant Guidebook <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb>. Subject to payment of the winning price and meeting all other criteria for eligibility, the winner will enter ICANN's contracting process to sign a Registry Agreement to operate the respective gTLD.
Six applicants participated in the auction for .BABY. Johnson & Johnson Services Inc. prevailed with a winning price of $3,088,888.
Two applicants participated in the auction for MLS. The Canadian Real Estate Association prevailed with a winning price of $3,359,000.
All proceeds from the Auction are being segregated and withheld from use until ICANN's Board of Directors define a plan for an appropriate use of the funds through consultation with the community. More Information
- Auction Results webpage < https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/auc tionresults
: Auction reports on this page on the New gTLD Microsite provide additional information on bidding. - Auction proceeds and costs <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/proceeds>: A detailed summary of the proceeds and costs of all auctions conducted through November 2014. This information is updated at the end of each month. - Auctions schedule <
http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/schedule-12dec14-en.pdf>
[PDF, 253 KB]: Subsequent auctions are scheduled to occur on a
monthly
basis throughout 2014 and into early 2015. Auction events are intended to resolve multiple contention sets simultaneously. - General New gTLD Program Auctions <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions> information. _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4235/8759 - Release Date: 12/18/14
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Seun Ojedeji,Federal University Oye-Ekitiweb: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng <http://www.fuoye.edu.ng> Mobile: +2348035233535**alt email: <http://goog_1872880453>seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng <seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng>* The key to understanding is humility - my view !
One may ask whether xxx.baby vs. xxxbaby.tld might be any different… one could equally ask whether xxx.geoname vs. xxxgeoname.tld is different. The emerging reality in my mind is that domain names are already themselves content. Our “industry” have been shying away from “content” for a long time, but the new gTLDs force us to rethink that presumption. Imagine.all.the.people.living.life.in.peace Is that just a domain name? and a domain name is no content… maybe… maybe not. What is “content” and how is text content different than a collection of words? Edmon From: Seun Ojedeji [mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:00 AM To: Edmon Chung Cc: parminder; At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Edmon Chung <edmon@registry.asia <mailto:edmon@registry.asia> > wrote: I sympathize very much with the sentiment. Not only is ICANN "auctioning off "baby"", it has essentially decided that required policies for ".baby" is no different than ".shop"... The registry can make it a free for all, and not even really be required to respect the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. Personally, I think that is wrong. If i may ask, what is wrong about that? i mean how is the right of a child not respected through a simple name string? I can understand referring to rights in relation to geographic strings but i don't understand the rationale behind the example sighted above Regards Edmon
-----Original Message----- From: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge- <mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-> lists.icann.org <http://lists.icann.org> ] On Behalf Of parminder Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:53 PM To: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [At-Large] Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction
It really hurts deeply to my public and political convictions when a generic term of language like 'baby' is auctioned off to the highest bidder for a certain, extremely important, exclusive use. What public interest has been served here? Is there anyone to ask this question? And I direct this question specifically to that part of the civil society which the rest of the world would trust should be asking the questions in the ICANN's context.
Any trademark authority would have rejected out of hand if Johnson and Johnson had sought 'baby' as a trademark for itself. The reasons are obvious. But those reasons do not mean anything to ICANN, and perhaps neither to civil society groups associated with ICANN.
But the trademark authorities are expressly public interest bodies, under public authorities, which are in turn subject to institutionalised public oversight and accountability.
ICANN on the other hand is a system captured by a group of people, who have developed the perfect means and system to keep all those close by and powerful happy in different ways - it uses the euphemism 'stakeholders' for them.
Most of all, it keeps the big daddy, the US happy, by employing various means to support its reign over theglobalInternet - it keeps a boisterous IG circuit in play that supports the status quo, and drowns out every other voice. This has been done very effectively till now. Btw, which technical governance mandate ICANN was pursuing to propose and set up the World Economic Forum based new Net Mundial Initiative, which is simply a way to divert global demands for addressing pressing Internet related public policy issues. This is done directly to appease US government's political interest, which ICANN has no business to be doing.. And then it keep the domain name industry happy and prospering, and also other major industries.... This group of people, which goes in the name of ICANN, does all this using the enormous funds that it illegally collects as a tax from global public using the Internet. This is where the money goes, and it produces conditions for further extraction.
It is a sorry state.
parminder
On Thursday 18 December 2014 11:18 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
How long that will continue/last will be a question to answer in near future.
Cheers!
sent from Google nexus 4 kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 18 Dec 2014 02:02, "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels@gmail.com <mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com> > wrote:
The money pile grows...
-Carlton
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
[image: ICANN] <http://www.icann.org/> News Alert
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3-2014-12-17-en ------------------------------ Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction
17 December 2014
On 17 December 2014, Power Auctions LLC <http://www.powerauctions.com/>, ICANN's authorized auction service provider, conducted a New gTLD Program Auction to resolve string contention for two new generic top-level domain (gTLD) strings: .BABY and .MLS. Applicants for these strings were unable to resolve contention among themselves; thus their contention sets proceeded to auction, which is the method of last resort to resolve string contention as prescribed in Module 4 of the New gTLD Program Applicant Guidebook <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb>. Subject to payment of the winning price and meeting all other criteria for eligibility, the winner will enter ICANN's contracting process to sign a Registry Agreement to operate the respective gTLD.
Six applicants participated in the auction for .BABY. Johnson & Johnson Services Inc. prevailed with a winning price of $3,088,888.
Two applicants participated in the auction for MLS. The Canadian Real Estate Association prevailed with a winning price of $3,359,000.
All proceeds from the Auction are being segregated and withheld from use until ICANN's Board of Directors define a plan for an appropriate use of the funds through consultation with the community. More Information
- Auction Results webpage < https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/auc tionresults
: Auction reports on this page on the New gTLD Microsite provide additional information on bidding. - Auction proceeds and costs <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/proceeds>: A detailed summary of the proceeds and costs of all auctions conducted through November 2014. This information is updated at the end of each month. - Auctions schedule <
http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/schedule-12dec14-en.pdf>
[PDF, 253 KB]: Subsequent auctions are scheduled to occur on a
monthly
basis throughout 2014 and into early 2015. Auction events are intended to resolve multiple contention sets simultaneously. - General New gTLD Program Auctions <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions> information. _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4235/8759 - Release Date: 12/18/14
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Seun Ojedeji, Federal University Oye-Ekiti web: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng Mobile: +2348035233535 alt email: <http://goog_1872880453> seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng <mailto:seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng> The key to understanding is humility - my view ! _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4235/8759 - Release Date: 12/18/14
But I don't think that really imply any rights infringement. It's like saying church.xxx is infringing on privacy. Yes we will achieve some content categorisation through the URL but it will never be 100% and can/should never be enforced. Cheers! sent from Google nexus 4 kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 18 Dec 2014 18:47, "Edmon Chung" <edmon@registry.asia> wrote:
One may ask whether xxx.baby vs. xxxbaby.tld might be any different… one could equally ask whether xxx.geoname vs. xxxgeoname.tld is different.
The emerging reality in my mind is that domain names are already themselves content. Our “industry” have been shying away from “content” for a long time, but the new gTLDs force us to rethink that presumption.
Imagine.all.the.people.living.life.in.peace
Is that just a domain name? and a domain name is no content… maybe… maybe not. What is “content” and how is text content different than a collection of words?
Edmon
*From:* Seun Ojedeji [mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 1:00 AM *To:* Edmon Chung *Cc:* parminder; At-Large Worldwide *Subject:* Re: [At-Large] Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Edmon Chung <edmon@registry.asia> wrote:
I sympathize very much with the sentiment. Not only is ICANN "auctioning off "baby"", it has essentially decided that required policies for ".baby" is no different than ".shop"... The registry can make it a free for all, and not even really be required to respect the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. Personally, I think that is wrong.
If i may ask, what is wrong about that? i mean how is the right of a child not respected through a simple name string?
I can understand referring to rights in relation to geographic strings but i don't understand the rationale behind the example sighted above
Regards
Edmon
-----Original Message----- From: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge- lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of parminder Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:53 PM To: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [At-Large] Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction
It really hurts deeply to my public and political convictions when a generic term of language like 'baby' is auctioned off to the highest bidder for a certain, extremely important, exclusive use. What public interest has been served here? Is there anyone to ask this question? And I direct this question specifically to that part of the civil society which the rest of the world would trust should be asking the questions in the ICANN's context.
Any trademark authority would have rejected out of hand if Johnson and Johnson had sought 'baby' as a trademark for itself. The reasons are obvious. But those reasons do not mean anything to ICANN, and perhaps neither to civil society groups associated with ICANN.
But the trademark authorities are expressly public interest bodies, under public authorities, which are in turn subject to institutionalised public oversight and accountability.
ICANN on the other hand is a system captured by a group of people, who have developed the perfect means and system to keep all those close by and powerful happy in different ways - it uses the euphemism 'stakeholders' for them.
Most of all, it keeps the big daddy, the US happy, by employing various means to support its reign over theglobalInternet - it keeps a boisterous IG circuit in play that supports the status quo, and drowns out every other voice. This has been done very effectively till now. Btw, which technical governance mandate ICANN was pursuing to propose and set up the World Economic Forum based new Net Mundial Initiative, which is simply a way to divert global demands for addressing pressing Internet related public policy issues. This is done directly to appease US government's political interest, which ICANN has no business to be doing.. And then it keep the domain name industry happy and prospering, and also other major industries.... This group of people, which goes in the name of ICANN, does all this using the enormous funds that it illegally collects as a tax from global public using the Internet. This is where the money goes, and it produces conditions for further extraction.
It is a sorry state.
parminder
On Thursday 18 December 2014 11:18 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
How long that will continue/last will be a question to answer in near future.
Cheers!
sent from Google nexus 4 kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 18 Dec 2014 02:02, "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
The money pile grows...
-Carlton
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
[image: ICANN] <http://www.icann.org/> News Alert
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3-2014-12-17-en ------------------------------ Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction
17 December 2014
On 17 December 2014, Power Auctions LLC <http://www.powerauctions.com/>, ICANN's authorized auction service provider, conducted a New gTLD Program Auction to resolve string contention for two new generic top-level domain (gTLD) strings: .BABY and .MLS. Applicants for these strings were unable to resolve contention among themselves; thus their contention sets proceeded to auction, which is the method of last resort to resolve string contention as prescribed in Module 4 of the New gTLD Program Applicant Guidebook <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb>. Subject to payment of the winning price and meeting all other criteria for eligibility, the winner will enter ICANN's contracting process to sign a Registry Agreement to operate the respective gTLD.
Six applicants participated in the auction for .BABY. Johnson & Johnson Services Inc. prevailed with a winning price of $3,088,888.
Two applicants participated in the auction for MLS. The Canadian Real Estate Association prevailed with a winning price of $3,359,000.
All proceeds from the Auction are being segregated and withheld from use until ICANN's Board of Directors define a plan for an appropriate use of the funds through consultation with the community. More Information
- Auction Results webpage < https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/auc tionresults
: Auction reports on this page on the New gTLD Microsite provide additional information on bidding. - Auction proceeds and costs <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/proceeds>: A detailed summary of the proceeds and costs of all auctions conducted through November 2014. This information is updated at the end of each month. - Auctions schedule <
http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/schedule-12dec14-en.pdf>
[PDF, 253 KB]: Subsequent auctions are scheduled to occur on a
monthly
basis throughout 2014 and into early 2015. Auction events are intended to resolve multiple contention sets simultaneously. - General New gTLD Program Auctions <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions> information. _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4235/8759 - Release Date: 12/18/14
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*Seun Ojedeji,Federal University Oye-Ekitiweb: * *http://www.fuoye.edu.ng <http://www.fuoye.edu.ng>**Mobile: +2348035233535 <%2B2348035233535>* *alt email: <http://goog_1872880453>seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng <seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng>*
The key to understanding is humility - my view !
------------------------------
No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4235/8759 - Release Date: 12/18/14
I agree with you. But once we realize that the name is part of content, we need to think about it in new light. That is all. Edmon From: Seun Ojedeji [mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:54 AM To: Edmon Chung Cc: parminder; At-Large Worldwide Subject: RE: [At-Large] Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction But I don't think that really imply any rights infringement. It's like saying church.xxx is infringing on privacy. Yes we will achieve some content categorisation through the URL but it will never be 100% and can/should never be enforced. Cheers! sent from Google nexus 4 kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 18 Dec 2014 18:47, "Edmon Chung" <edmon@registry.asia <mailto:edmon@registry.asia> > wrote: One may ask whether xxx.baby vs. xxxbaby.tld might be any different… one could equally ask whether xxx.geoname vs. xxxgeoname.tld is different. The emerging reality in my mind is that domain names are already themselves content. Our “industry” have been shying away from “content” for a long time, but the new gTLDs force us to rethink that presumption. Imagine.all.the.people.living.life.in.peace Is that just a domain name? and a domain name is no content… maybe… maybe not. What is “content” and how is text content different than a collection of words? Edmon From: Seun Ojedeji [mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com <mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> ] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:00 AM To: Edmon Chung Cc: parminder; At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Edmon Chung <edmon@registry.asia <mailto:edmon@registry.asia> > wrote: I sympathize very much with the sentiment. Not only is ICANN "auctioning off "baby"", it has essentially decided that required policies for ".baby" is no different than ".shop"... The registry can make it a free for all, and not even really be required to respect the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. Personally, I think that is wrong. If i may ask, what is wrong about that? i mean how is the right of a child not respected through a simple name string? I can understand referring to rights in relation to geographic strings but i don't understand the rationale behind the example sighted above Regards Edmon
-----Original Message----- From: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge- <mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-> lists.icann.org <http://lists.icann.org> ] On Behalf Of parminder Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:53 PM To: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [At-Large] Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction
It really hurts deeply to my public and political convictions when a generic term of language like 'baby' is auctioned off to the highest bidder for a certain, extremely important, exclusive use. What public interest has been served here? Is there anyone to ask this question? And I direct this question specifically to that part of the civil society which the rest of the world would trust should be asking the questions in the ICANN's context.
Any trademark authority would have rejected out of hand if Johnson and Johnson had sought 'baby' as a trademark for itself. The reasons are obvious. But those reasons do not mean anything to ICANN, and perhaps neither to civil society groups associated with ICANN.
But the trademark authorities are expressly public interest bodies, under public authorities, which are in turn subject to institutionalised public oversight and accountability.
ICANN on the other hand is a system captured by a group of people, who have developed the perfect means and system to keep all those close by and powerful happy in different ways - it uses the euphemism 'stakeholders' for them.
Most of all, it keeps the big daddy, the US happy, by employing various means to support its reign over theglobalInternet - it keeps a boisterous IG circuit in play that supports the status quo, and drowns out every other voice. This has been done very effectively till now. Btw, which technical governance mandate ICANN was pursuing to propose and set up the World Economic Forum based new Net Mundial Initiative, which is simply a way to divert global demands for addressing pressing Internet related public policy issues. This is done directly to appease US government's political interest, which ICANN has no business to be doing.. And then it keep the domain name industry happy and prospering, and also other major industries.... This group of people, which goes in the name of ICANN, does all this using the enormous funds that it illegally collects as a tax from global public using the Internet. This is where the money goes, and it produces conditions for further extraction.
It is a sorry state.
parminder
On Thursday 18 December 2014 11:18 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
How long that will continue/last will be a question to answer in near future.
Cheers!
sent from Google nexus 4 kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 18 Dec 2014 02:02, "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels@gmail.com <mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com> > wrote:
The money pile grows...
-Carlton
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
[image: ICANN] <http://www.icann.org/> News Alert
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3-2014-12-17-en ------------------------------ Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction
17 December 2014
On 17 December 2014, Power Auctions LLC <http://www.powerauctions.com/>, ICANN's authorized auction service provider, conducted a New gTLD Program Auction to resolve string contention for two new generic top-level domain (gTLD) strings: .BABY and .MLS. Applicants for these strings were unable to resolve contention among themselves; thus their contention sets proceeded to auction, which is the method of last resort to resolve string contention as prescribed in Module 4 of the New gTLD Program Applicant Guidebook <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb>. Subject to payment of the winning price and meeting all other criteria for eligibility, the winner will enter ICANN's contracting process to sign a Registry Agreement to operate the respective gTLD.
Six applicants participated in the auction for .BABY. Johnson & Johnson Services Inc. prevailed with a winning price of $3,088,888.
Two applicants participated in the auction for MLS. The Canadian Real Estate Association prevailed with a winning price of $3,359,000.
All proceeds from the Auction are being segregated and withheld from use until ICANN's Board of Directors define a plan for an appropriate use of the funds through consultation with the community. More Information
- Auction Results webpage < https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/auc tionresults
: Auction reports on this page on the New gTLD Microsite provide additional information on bidding. - Auction proceeds and costs <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/proceeds>: A detailed summary of the proceeds and costs of all auctions conducted through November 2014. This information is updated at the end of each month. - Auctions schedule <
http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/schedule-12dec14-en.pdf>
[PDF, 253 KB]: Subsequent auctions are scheduled to occur on a
monthly
basis throughout 2014 and into early 2015. Auction events are intended to resolve multiple contention sets simultaneously. - General New gTLD Program Auctions <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions> information. _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4235/8759 - Release Date: 12/18/14
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Seun Ojedeji, Federal University Oye-Ekiti web: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng Mobile: +2348035233535 <tel:%2B2348035233535> alt email: <http://goog_1872880453> seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng <mailto:seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng> The key to understanding is humility - my view ! _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4235/8759 - Release Date: 12/18/14 _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4235/8759 - Release Date: 12/18/14
At 17:24 18/12/2014, Edmon Chung wrote:
I sympathize very much with the sentiment. Not only is ICANN "auctioning off "baby"", it has essentially decided that required policies for ".baby" is no different than ".shop"... The registry can make it a free for all, and not even really be required to respect the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. Personally, I think that is wrong. Edmon
Edmon, and others serious, useful, common sense ccTLD and TLD mnagers: it might be time to start discussing the specification and the new domain name marketing model in non ICANN/NTIA "IN" DNS Classes with the development of the Libre MYICANN Plug-in, the various GOVCANN plug-ins we may expact as well as the value-added probable CORPCANN add-ons (Google? Dyn?). As far as I am concerned my own Libre Team (Cybaogora), our MYCANN development will start in January through a compaction of the DNS RFC read in a user context with his/her Home-Root and "Happy-IANA". Experimentation using Bind has restarted for a few weeks. The tools for cross-collecting, sorting and publishing the TopZone are under various experimentalversions. In despising our permissionless innovation effort ICANN tries to confuse this DNS architectural evolution with "alt-roots". I only continue to explore, test, develop and further deploy along the recommendations of the ICAN? ICP-3 document, development section. In doing so it puts technology innovation and internet security in competition with their inteset and charter. jfc
-----Original Message----- From: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge- lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of parminder Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:53 PM To: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [At-Large] Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction n ?
It really hurts deeply to my public and political convictions when a generic term of language like 'baby' is auctioned off to the highest bidder for a certain, extremely important, exclusive use. What public interest has been served here? Is there anyone to ask this question? And I direct this question specifically to that part of the civil society which the rest of the world would trust should be asking the questions in the ICANN's context.
Any trademark authority would have rejected out of hand if Johnson and Johnson had sought 'baby' as a trademark for itself. The reasons are obvious. But those reasons do not mean anything to ICANN, and perhaps neither to civil society groups associated with ICANN.
But the trademark authorities are expressly public interest bodies, under public authorities, which are in turn subject to institutionalised public oversight and accountability.
ICANN on the other hand is a system captured by a group of people, who have developed the perfect means and system to keep all those close by and powerful happy in different ways - it uses the euphemism 'stakeholders' for them.
Most of all, it keeps the big daddy, the US happy, by employing various means to support its reign over theglobalInternet - it keeps a boisterous IG circuit in play that supports the status quo, and drowns out every other voice. This has been done very effectively till now. Btw, which technical governance mandate ICANN was pursuing to propose and set up the World Economic Forum based new Net Mundial Initiative, which is simply a way to divert global demands for addressing pressing Internet related public policy issues. This is done directly to appease US government's political interest, which ICANN has no business to be doing.. And then it keep the domain name industry happy and prospering, and also other major industries.... This group of people, which goes in the name of ICANN, does all this using the enormous funds that it illegally collects as a tax from global public using the Internet. This is where the money goes, and it produces conditions for further extraction.
It is a sorry state.
parminder
On Thursday 18 December 2014 11:18 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
How long that will continue/last will be a question to answer in near future.
Cheers!
sent from Google nexus 4 kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 18 Dec 2014 02:02, "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
The money pile grows...
-Carlton
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
[image: ICANN] <http://www.icann.org/> News Alert
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3-2014-12-17-en ------------------------------ Results Available for 17 December 2014 New gTLD Program Auction
17 December 2014
On 17 December 2014, Power Auctions LLC <http://www.powerauctions.com/>, ICANN's authorized auction service provider, conducted a New gTLD Program Auction to resolve string contention for two new generic top-level domain (gTLD) strings: .BABY and .MLS. Applicants for these strings were unable to resolve contention among themselves; thus their contention sets proceeded to auction, which is the method of last resort to resolve string contention as prescribed in Module 4 of the New gTLD Program Applicant Guidebook <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb>. Subject to payment of the winning price and meeting all other criteria for eligibility, the winner will enter ICANN's contracting process to sign a Registry Agreement to operate the respective gTLD.
Six applicants participated in the auction for .BABY. Johnson & Johnson Services Inc. prevailed with a winning price of $3,088,888.
Two applicants participated in the auction for MLS. The Canadian Real Estate Association prevailed with a winning price of $3,359,000.
All proceeds from the Auction are being segregated and withheld from use until ICANN's Board of Directors define a plan for an appropriate use of the funds through consultation with the community. More Information
- Auction Results webpage < https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/auc tionresults
: Auction reports on this page on the New gTLD Microsite provide additional information on bidding. - Auction proceeds and costs <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/proceeds>: A detailed summary of the proceeds and costs of all auctions conducted through November 2014. This information is updated at the end of each month. - Auctions schedule <
http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/schedule-12dec14-en.pdf>
[PDF, 253 KB]: Subsequent auctions are scheduled to occur on a
monthly
basis throughout 2014 and into early 2015. Auction events are intended to resolve multiple contention sets simultaneously. - General New gTLD Program Auctions <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions> information. _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4235/8759 - Release Date: 12/18/14
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
participants (6)
-
Carlton Samuels -
Edmon Chung -
JFC Morfin -
McTim -
parminder -
Seun Ojedeji