Hi, Thanks for this. I still think it will be interesting to see how the accusations are substantiated. I do beleive that as with all other information available on the issue of ICANN Accountability and transparency, we will need to look at it, as we can certainly assume that external writings on the subject will definitely create the environment into which our report will be received. And the environment in which our effort will either be judged as a worthwhile delving into the Accountability and transparency nature of ICANN or a whitewash. We need to remember that it is the AOC and its review, especially the ATRT that are among the strongest claims we, as the community that defends and explains ICANN to the world, can make. If our effort avoids the controversial, we may be judged as having failed at our collective duty. At the end of the year, on 1 Jan 2014, we will all have to make our own judgements on whether we were able to really fulfill our mandate, and on whether we did all we could do. Perhaps it is just me, but I already find the piece, and the reactions, interesting and illuminating. I look forward to seeing how the series continues, but I reiterate that I see paying attention to it as part of our continued information collection. avri On 31 Aug 2013, at 14:50, Steve Crocker wrote:

Well, for a contrary opinion, let me suggest this series might be neither interesting nor illuminating. As an exercise in reading, I color-coded the passages in this document according to whether they are facts, opinions or accusations. I also left some passages unmarked for various reasons, e.g. they stated intentions, they referenced concepts that are hard to assign cleanly to one of these categories, etc.

Steve

<ICANN’s Accountability Meltdown.pdf>

On Aug 31, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Avri Doria <avri@ella.com> wrote:

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Hi,

I expect this will be both interesting and illuminating.

http://www.internetgovernance.org/2013/08/31/icanns-accountability-meltdown-...

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+1 demi Quoting "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <ocl@gih.com>:

Dear Avri,

On 01/09/2013 19:07, Avri Doria wrote:

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I still think it will be interesting to see how the accusations are substantiated.

Permit me to pass on this text. Having had the experience (at WCIT) to read earlier prose from the same author, I will refrain wasting my time in this instance. I'll kindly let you and my colleagues on ATRT2 illuminate me later. Kindest regards,

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