Re: [bc-gnso] Can we have a huddle at 17:00 today for the BC Members who are here?
Excellent suggestion and happy to participate. Philip S. Corwin Partner, Butera & Andrews 1301 Pennsylvania Ave., NW Suite 500 Washington, DC 20004 2026635347/Office 2022556172/Cell "Luck is the residue of design." -- Branch Rickey ________________________________ From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org <owner-bc-gnso@icann.org> To: bc-gnso@icann.org <bc-gnso@icann.org>; 'BC List' <bclist@bizconst.org> Sent: Fri Oct 23 23:39:52 2009 Subject: [bc-gnso] Can we have a huddle at 17:00 today for the BC Members who are here? Dear colleagues, It seems that there are about 18 or so BC members attending the meeting, from Gary's email. That is excellent turn out and offers a lot of input from membership regarding making decisions and maintaining interaction among the BC membership while here at Seoul. Therefore, I would like to suggest we huddle tonight to talk about many of the things that have surfaced in today’s discussions. There are a lot of topics on the agenda for the BC that deserve membership discussion before the CSG meets on Tuesday a.m., at least informally. Clearly, these discussions should be held among all members, but in lieu of that possibility, a huddle with those present would give the BC Councilors some direction. It is tough to find time to 'huddle' as a constituency over the weekend, but I think that of the 17-18 members, most will be here by Sunday. There is a one hour time slot from 18:00 – 19:00 Sunday, after all the working groups, after the Joint GAC/GNSO meeting, and before the Councilors go off to their Board/Council dinner. I am recommending a huddle in the bar at 17:00 tonight; and another one tomorrow at 18:00. Can the BC members who are here please advise if they could attend? Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff RNA Partners, Inc. 220 Fifth Avenue, 20th floor New York, New York 10001 www.rnapartners.com<http://www.rnapartners.com> V: +1 212 481 2820 x 11 F: +1 212 481 2859
I don't recall that there is a separately designated list just for those who are attending Seoul ICANN, or who opted in for more detailed feedback. If there is, I suggest that we can take up administrative coordination 'off the full BC' list, however, this email is also an update to those who can't be here in person regarding the present status of election of the Policy Chair and Vice Chairs. Yes to the BAR gathering today for an hour. and yes to tomorrow p.m. I agree that having informal gatherings on the Saturday and Sunday are extremely helpful to the sharing of information within the BC members and of course, giving feedback and guidance to councilors and officers on topics so that they are kept updated and supported by the membership in what is a very heavy duty work time for all of us. The time zone differences to most of our BC members not here make communications in 'real time' extremely challenging for all. As a quick update to the list, having not seen any other updates, I'll just post to the BC membership overall that the discussions with who will be vice chair from the "houses", and who is the chair candidate(s) for the GNSO Policy Council chair. The 'question and answer' exchanges with the two candidates for GNSO Policy Chair is underway now. Early today, there was a House meeting at 9 a.m. that was open. Several BC members learned about the meeting and came along to it, so there will be others who will undoubtedly post to the list to share insights, and information. Outcome from that meeting: First, quickly, from the meeting that took place at 9 a.m. - 11 a.m. today, Olga emerged as the Non Contracted House candidate for the Chair of the GNSO Policy Council and Chuck emerged as the candidate from the Contracted parties house. The contracted chairs house put forward Stephan as their house vice chair. They therefore have a firm V.C. already elected. The non contracted house put Olga forward as the "Interim Vice Chair", in the event she isn't elected as the Chair. If she is elected as the Chair, then the general "informal" agreement seems to be to support Zahid Jamil as a candidate for the Vice Chair of the House, should Olga be elected as chair of the Policy Council. In the informal, closed discussions within the House, exceptionally effectively chaired by Steve Metalitz this a.m. in an 'ad hoc' huddle that I proposed so that all members voices could be heard, the ISPs; the IPC and the BC supported Chuck as chair, and Olga as Vice Chair [but supported as well that Olga would be the House Chair candidate]. I know that all of us had many reservations about the Board's decision to force the creation of "Houses". I am pleased to report that the working tone between the Stakeholder Groups within the Non Commercial House was exceptionally cordial and collaborative. The non commercial users in the Stakeholder group with us [commercial users] will have a new challenge as they absorb the new appointed reps made by the Board. Communications that are honest and thoughtful throughout this process of building the new processes will continue to be extremely important. It has been very helpful to have as many BC members in attendance, since that builds visible recognition and interpersonal exchanges at a critical 'building block' period. I don't pretend that this will be easy, but the reality is that not only are we 'house mates', it might even be that we are 'room mates'. One always wants pleasant relationships with the 'neighbors' when one lives in a small multi tenant dwelling! Best regards from the first half day in Seoul. Don't panic: It is not my intent to blog about all meetings, but this discussion about the election of Chair/Vice Chairs is of relevance to all BC members. Marilyn
Dear colleagues, It is very helpful to have substantive updates from BC colleagues on the ground in Seoul, so thanks Marilyn. If there are issues where input from those of us who are not in Seoul can be helpful, please outline what the issue/options are and I and I am sure others will try to contribute in a productive manner despite the time difference! Best regards, Ayesha ________________________________ From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Marilyn Cade Sent: samedi 24 octobre 2009 06:56 To: bc - GNSO list; bclist@bizconst.org Subject: [bc-gnso] Day 00 - Saturday: Informal BC meetings/update on the discussion of the elections of the Policy Chair/Vice Chairs I don't recall that there is a separately designated list just for those who are attending Seoul ICANN, or who opted in for more detailed feedback. If there is, I suggest that we can take up administrative coordination 'off the full BC' list, however, this email is also an update to those who can't be here in person regarding the present status of election of the Policy Chair and Vice Chairs. Yes to the BAR gathering today for an hour. and yes to tomorrow p.m. I agree that having informal gatherings on the Saturday and Sunday are extremely helpful to the sharing of information within the BC members and of course, giving feedback and guidance to councilors and officers on topics so that they are kept updated and supported by the membership in what is a very heavy duty work time for all of us. The time zone differences to most of our BC members not here make communications in 'real time' extremely challenging for all. As a quick update to the list, having not seen any other updates, I'll just post to the BC membership overall that the discussions with who will be vice chair from the "houses", and who is the chair candidate(s) for the GNSO Policy Council chair. The 'question and answer' exchanges with the two candidates for GNSO Policy Chair is underway now. Early today, there was a House meeting at 9 a.m. that was open. Several BC members learned about the meeting and came along to it, so there will be others who will undoubtedly post to the list to share insights, and information. Outcome from that meeting: First, quickly, from the meeting that took place at 9 a.m. - 11 a.m. today, Olga emerged as the Non Contracted House candidate for the Chair of the GNSO Policy Council and Chuck emerged as the candidate from the Contracted parties house. The contracted chairs house put forward Stephan as their house vice chair. They therefore have a firm V.C. already elected. The non contracted house put Olga forward as the "Interim Vice Chair", in the event she isn't elected as the Chair. If she is elected as the Chair, then the general "informal" agreement seems to be to support Zahid Jamil as a candidate for the Vice Chair of the House, should Olga be elected as chair of the Policy Council. In the informal, closed discussions within the House, exceptionally effectively chaired by Steve Metalitz this a.m. in an 'ad hoc' huddle that I proposed so that all members voices could be heard, the ISPs; the IPC and the BC supported Chuck as chair, and Olga as Vice Chair [but supported as well that Olga would be the House Chair candidate]. I know that all of us had many reservations about the Board's decision to force the creation of "Houses". I am pleased to report that the working tone between the Stakeholder Groups within the Non Commercial House was exceptionally cordial and collaborative. The non commercial users in the Stakeholder group with us [commercial users] will have a new challenge as they absorb the new appointed reps made by the Board. Communications that are honest and thoughtful throughout this process of building the new processes will continue to be extremely important. It has been very helpful to have as many BC members in attendance, since that builds visible recognition and interpersonal exchanges at a critical 'building block' period. I don't pretend that this will be easy, but the reality is that not only are we 'house mates', it might even be that we are 'room mates'. One always wants pleasant relationships with the 'neighbors' when one lives in a small multi tenant dwelling! Best regards from the first half day in Seoul. Don't panic: It is not my intent to blog about all meetings, but this discussion about the election of Chair/Vice Chairs is of relevance to all BC members. Marilyn
please keep blogging -- your post was great! mikey On Oct 23, 2009, at 11:55 PM, Marilyn Cade wrote:
I don't recall that there is a separately designated list just for those who are attending Seoul ICANN, or who opted in for more detailed feedback. If there is, I suggest that we can take up administrative coordination 'off the full BC' list, however, this email is also an update to those who can't be here in person regarding the present status of election of the Policy Chair and Vice Chairs.
Yes to the BAR gathering today for an hour. and yes to tomorrow p.m.
I agree that having informal gatherings on the Saturday and Sunday are extremely helpful to the sharing of information within the BC members and of course, giving feedback and guidance to councilors and officers on topics so that they are kept updated and supported by the membership in what is a very heavy duty work time for all of us.
The time zone differences to most of our BC members not here make communications in 'real time' extremely challenging for all.
As a quick update to the list, having not seen any other updates, I'll just post to the BC membership overall that the discussions with who will be vice chair from the "houses", and who is the chair candidate(s) for the GNSO Policy Council chair.
The 'question and answer' exchanges with the two candidates for GNSO Policy Chair is underway now.
Early today, there was a House meeting at 9 a.m. that was open. Several BC members learned about the meeting and came along to it, so there will be others who will undoubtedly post to the list to share insights, and information.
Outcome from that meeting:
First, quickly, from the meeting that took place at 9 a.m. - 11 a.m. today, Olga emerged as the Non Contracted House candidate for the Chair of the GNSO Policy Council and Chuck emerged as the candidate from the Contracted parties house.
The contracted chairs house put forward Stephan as their house vice chair. They therefore have a firm V.C. already elected.
The non contracted house put Olga forward as the "Interim Vice Chair", in the event she isn't elected as the Chair. If she is elected as the Chair, then the general "informal" agreement seems to be to support Zahid Jamil as a candidate for the Vice Chair of the House, should Olga be elected as chair of the Policy Council.
In the informal, closed discussions within the House, exceptionally effectively chaired by Steve Metalitz this a.m. in an 'ad hoc' huddle that I proposed so that all members voices could be heard, the ISPs; the IPC and the BC supported Chuck as chair, and Olga as Vice Chair [but supported as well that Olga would be the House Chair candidate].
I know that all of us had many reservations about the Board's decision to force the creation of "Houses". I am pleased to report that the working tone between the Stakeholder Groups within the Non Commercial House was exceptionally cordial and collaborative. The non commercial users in the Stakeholder group with us [commercial users] will have a new challenge as they absorb the new appointed reps made by the Board.
Communications that are honest and thoughtful throughout this process of building the new processes will continue to be extremely important. It has been very helpful to have as many BC members in attendance, since that builds visible recognition and interpersonal exchanges at a critical 'building block' period. I don't pretend that this will be easy, but the reality is that not only are we 'house mates', it might even be that we are 'room mates'. One always wants pleasant relationships with the 'neighbors' when one lives in a small multi tenant dwelling!
Best regards from the first half day in Seoul.
Don't panic: It is not my intent to blog about all meetings, but this discussion about the election of Chair/Vice Chairs is of relevance to all BC members.
Marilyn
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Yes Keep going Marlyn. Very interesting from Spain on a Saturday afternoon where I am resting ahead of the night shift with alarm clock set. Chris Chaplow Managing Director Andalucía.com S.L. Avenida del Carmen 9 Ed. Puertosol, Puerto Deportivo 1ª Planta, Oficina 30 Estepona, 29680 Malaga, Spain Tel: + (34) 952 897 865 Fax: + (34) 952 897 874 E-mail: <mailto:chris@andalucia.com> chris@andalucia.com Web: <http://www.andalucia.com/> www.andalucia.com Information about Andalucia, Spain. Please think of the Environment before you print this email De: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] En nombre de Mike O'Connor Enviado el: sábado, 24 de octubre de 2009 14:54 Para: Marilyn Cade CC: bc - GNSO list Asunto: Re: [bc-gnso] Day 00 - Saturday: Informal BC meetings/update on the discussion of the elections of the Policy Chair/Vice Chairs please keep blogging -- your post was great! mikey On Oct 23, 2009, at 11:55 PM, Marilyn Cade wrote: I don't recall that there is a separately designated list just for those who are attending Seoul ICANN, or who opted in for more detailed feedback. If there is, I suggest that we can take up administrative coordination 'off the full BC' list, however, this email is also an update to those who can't be here in person regarding the present status of election of the Policy Chair and Vice Chairs. Yes to the BAR gathering today for an hour. and yes to tomorrow p.m. I agree that having informal gatherings on the Saturday and Sunday are extremely helpful to the sharing of information within the BC members and of course, giving feedback and guidance to councilors and officers on topics so that they are kept updated and supported by the membership in what is a very heavy duty work time for all of us. The time zone differences to most of our BC members not here make communications in 'real time' extremely challenging for all. As a quick update to the list, having not seen any other updates, I'll just post to the BC membership overall that the discussions with who will be vice chair from the "houses", and who is the chair candidate(s) for the GNSO Policy Council chair. The 'question and answer' exchanges with the two candidates for GNSO Policy Chair is underway now. Early today, there was a House meeting at 9 a.m. that was open. Several BC members learned about the meeting and came along to it, so there will be others who will undoubtedly post to the list to share insights, and information. Outcome from that meeting: First, quickly, from the meeting that took place at 9 a.m. - 11 a.m. today, Olga emerged as the Non Contracted House candidate for the Chair of the GNSO Policy Council and Chuck emerged as the candidate from the Contracted parties house. The contracted chairs house put forward Stephan as their house vice chair. They therefore have a firm V.C. already elected. The non contracted house put Olga forward as the "Interim Vice Chair", in the event she isn't elected as the Chair. If she is elected as the Chair, then the general "informal" agreement seems to be to support Zahid Jamil as a candidate for the Vice Chair of the House, should Olga be elected as chair of the Policy Council. In the informal, closed discussions within the House, exceptionally effectively chaired by Steve Metalitz this a.m. in an 'ad hoc' huddle that I proposed so that all members voices could be heard, the ISPs; the IPC and the BC supported Chuck as chair, and Olga as Vice Chair [but supported as well that Olga would be the House Chair candidate]. I know that all of us had many reservations about the Board's decision to force the creation of "Houses". I am pleased to report that the working tone between the Stakeholder Groups within the Non Commercial House was exceptionally cordial and collaborative. The non commercial users in the Stakeholder group with us [commercial users] will have a new challenge as they absorb the new appointed reps made by the Board. Communications that are honest and thoughtful throughout this process of building the new processes will continue to be extremely important. It has been very helpful to have as many BC members in attendance, since that builds visible recognition and interpersonal exchanges at a critical 'building block' period. I don't pretend that this will be easy, but the reality is that not only are we 'house mates', it might even be that we are 'room mates'. One always wants pleasant relationships with the 'neighbors' when one lives in a small multi tenant dwelling! Best regards from the first half day in Seoul. Don't panic: It is not my intent to blog about all meetings, but this discussion about the election of Chair/Vice Chairs is of relevance to all BC members. Marilyn - - - - - - - - - phone 651-647-6109 fax 866-280-2356 web www.haven2.com handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.)
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Phil Corwin