John, This chart is just a recent snapshot. My sense is that we now get fewer spams than others since we write cease and desist letters to each one. Before we took this action, they would continue to spam various senior executives in the company on a continuing basis. Sarah Sarah B. Deutsch Vice President & Associate General Counsel Verizon Communications Phone: 703-351-3044 Fax: 703-351-3670 From: john@crediblecontext.com [mailto:john@crediblecontext.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:49 AM To: Deutsch, Sarah B; 'Chris Chaplow'; bc-gnso@icann.org Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] Fake renewal notices Sarah, Any sense if the 25 a year you get is more, less or about the same as other similar-sized and positioned companies? Berard -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] Fake renewal notices From: "Deutsch, Sarah B" <sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com<mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com>> Date: Wed, March 14, 2012 8:36 am To: "'Chris Chaplow'" <chris@andalucia.com<mailto:chris@andalucia.com>>, "bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>" <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> John, Zahid: The attached chart may be helpful for you as you discuss the fake renewal issue. This chart documents the many fake renewal/registration claims we have received inside Verizon. Most come from companies located in China or Hong Kong. We’ve sent a cease and desist letter to each, written to the Hong Kong Telecom Authority and the FTC, all to no avail. Sarah Sarah B. Deutsch Vice President & Associate General Counsel Verizon Communications Phone: 703-351-3044 Fax: 703-351-3670 From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org> [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Chris Chaplow Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 6:01 PM To: bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: [bc-gnso] Fake renewal notices John and Zahid, I probably will not be at the Council tomorrow. Here is the issue that steve mentioned. I have website client who get fake renewal notices. Or phone calls. “We have a client who wants to register name.cn<http://name.cn> and as you have name.com<http://name.com> and as we are a responsible registrar (actually not accredited) we wanted to check with you first before accepting our client’s order. Do you want to register for 10 years of $$$ ?” I advise my clients it is a scam, but just to be on the safe side they usually instructs me to make a defensive registration and I do so for one year with another registrar. Best Chris Chaplow Managing Director Andalucia.com<http://Andalucia.com> S.L. Avenida del Carmen 9 Ed. Puertosol, Puerto Deportivo 1ª Planta, Oficina 30 Estepona, 29680 Malaga, Spain Tel: + (34) 952 897 865 Fax: + (34) 952 897 874 E-mail: chris@andalucia.com<mailto:chris@andalucia.com> Web: www.andalucia.com<http://www.andalucia.com/> Information about Andalucia, Spain.

John, My experience is similar, although I have not captured the metrics. I often receive (third-hand via tech/admin email addresses) slamming emails, rather than fake renewal notices, suggesting that domains are about to be registered which include my brand, offering me an opportunity to jump-in and claim it, along with a bunch of others. Kind regards, Martin Martin C SUTTON Group Risk Manager, Group Fraud Risk and Intelligence | HSBC HOLDINGS PLC HGHQ Group Security & Fraud Risk 8 Canada Square,Canary Wharf,London,E14 5HQ,United Kingdom ________________________________________________________________ Phone. +44 (0)20 7991 8074 / 7991 8074 Mobile. +44 (0) 7774556680 Email. martinsutton@hsbc.com ________________________________________________________________ From: <john@crediblecontext.com> To: "Deutsch, Sarah B" <sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com>, "'Chris Chaplow'" <chris@andalucia.com>, "bc-gnso@icann.org" <bc-gnso@icann.org> Date: 14/03/2012 17:40 Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] Fake renewal notices Sent by: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org Sarah, Any sense if the 25 a year you get is more, less or about the same as other similar-sized and positioned companies? Berard -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] Fake renewal notices From: "Deutsch, Sarah B" <sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com> Date: Wed, March 14, 2012 8:36 am To: "'Chris Chaplow'" <chris@andalucia.com>, "bc-gnso@icann.org" <bc-gnso@icann.org> John, Zahid: The attached chart may be helpful for you as you discuss the fake renewal issue. This chart documents the many fake renewal/registration claims we have received inside Verizon. Most come from companies located in China or Hong Kong. We?ve sent a cease and desist letter to each, written to the Hong Kong Telecom Authority and the FTC, all to no avail. Sarah Sarah B. Deutsch Vice President & Associate General Counsel Verizon Communications Phone: 703-351-3044 Fax: 703-351-3670 From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Chris Chaplow Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 6:01 PM To: bc-gnso@icann.org Subject: [bc-gnso] Fake renewal notices John and Zahid, I probably will not be at the Council tomorrow. Here is the issue that steve mentioned. I have website client who get fake renewal notices. Or phone calls. ?We have a client who wants to register name.cn and as you have name.com and as we are a responsible registrar (actually not accredited) we wanted to check with you first before accepting our client?s order. Do you want to register for 10 years of $$$ ?? I advise my clients it is a scam, but just to be on the safe side they usually instructs me to make a defensive registration and I do so for one year with another registrar. Best Chris Chaplow Managing Director Andalucia.com S.L. Avenida del Carmen 9 Ed. Puertosol, Puerto Deportivo 1ª Planta, Oficina 30 Estepona, 29680 Malaga, Spain Tel: + (34) 952 897 865 Fax: + (34) 952 897 874 E-mail: chris@andalucia.com Web: www.andalucia.com Information about Andalucia, Spain. ************************************************************ HSBC Holdings plc Registered Office: 8 Canada Square, London E14 5HQ, United Kingdom Registered in England number 617987 ************************************************************ ----------------------------------------- SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT! This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions.