RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team
Lynn — I agree we want a broad definition of "consumer" for purposes of reviewing WHOIS. That's why I recommended we select the thought the scond defintion (below) was the one Any consumer that acts as a Producer of WHOIS data (see above), Maintainer of WHOIS data and provider of WHOIS Service (e.g. Registrars), or User of WHOIS data (e.g. – individuals, commercial or non-commercial entities who legitimately query the WHOIS data). On 4/7/11 8:59 PM, "lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com<mailto:lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com>" <lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com<mailto:lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com>> wrote: Thanks Steve for this draft and the work of the BC to provide productive comments. As an member of the Whois Review Team, I would personally appreciate support from the BC for the broader definition of "consumer" as a global Internet user rather than the narrow definition that would limit the concept of consumers to registrants and ICANN stakeholders. I maintain that the broader definition is consistent with language in other sections of the AOC that refer to "public interest" and "Internet users" as well as the policy requirement for public availability of Whois data. Also, I believe members of the BC have first hand experience with the UDRP process and a good understanding of the dependency on Whois data for dispute resolution. The BC perspective on this specific need for accurate and reliable Whois data would be helpful in progressing our work. Lynn -------- Original Message -------- Subject: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>> Date: Thu, April 07, 2011 2:46 pm To: "bc-GNSO@icann.org<mailto:bc-GNSO@icann.org>" <bc-GNSO@icann.org<mailto:bc-GNSO@icann.org>> Cc: Janet O'Callaghan <jocallaghan@newscorp.com<mailto:jocallaghan@newscorp.com>>, Lynn Goodendorf <lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com<mailto:lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com>>, Berry Cobb <berrycobb@infinityportals.com<mailto:berrycobb@infinityportals.com>>, Sarah Deutsch <sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com><http://sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com>>;, Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com><http://Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com>>; ICANN is gathering responses to questions posed by the Whois review team. Attached is a discussion draft for BC response prepared by Elisa Cooper. (Steve DelBianco added a bit about Whois studies) On our last member call, several others also volunteered to add to this response, so we're looking forward to your additions: Sara Deutsch Berry Cobb Lynn Goodendorf Janet O'Callaghan ICANN's Comment period closes 17-Apr. Today (7-Apr) begins an 8-day review period for this discussion draft. We can submit this response later if members feel they need the entire 14-day review and discussion period. Please review and post your suggestions/edits as soon as possible. If there are no disagreements noted by 17-Apr, this response will be adopted without a voting period, and posted to ICANN. For topic background, see http://icann.org/en/public-comment/#whois-rt Thanks again to Elisa Cooper for serving as BC Rapporteur on this. Regards, Steve DelBianco Vice chair for policy coordination
Oh good- thanks! Connected by MOTOBLUR™ -----Original message----- From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org> To: "lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com" <lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com> Cc: Janet O'Callaghan <jocallaghan@newscorp.com>, Berry Cobb <berrycobb@infinityportals.com>, Sarah Deutsch <sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com>, Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com>, "bc-GNSO@icann.org" <bc-GNSO@icann.org> Sent: Fri, Apr 8, 2011 11:06:19 EDT Subject: Re: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team Lynn — I agree we want a broad definition of "consumer" for purposes of reviewing WHOIS. That's why I recommended we select the thought the scond defintion (below) was the one Any consumer that acts as a Producer of WHOIS data (see above), Maintainer of WHOIS data and provider of WHOIS Service (e.g. Registrars), or User of WHOIS data (e.g. – individuals, commercial or non-commercial entities who legitimately query the WHOIS data). On 4/7/11 8:59 PM, "lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com<mailto:lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com>" <lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com<mailto:lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com>> wrote: Thanks Steve for this draft and the work of the BC to provide productive comments. As an member of the Whois Review Team, I would personally appreciate support from the BC for the broader definition of "consumer" as a global Internet user rather than the narrow definition that would limit the concept of consumers to registrants and ICANN stakeholders. I maintain that the broader definition is consistent with language in other sections of the AOC that refer to "public interest" and "Internet users" as well as the policy requirement for public availability of Whois data. Also, I believe members of the BC have first hand experience with the UDRP process and a good understanding of the dependency on Whois data for dispute resolution. The BC perspective on this specific need for accurate and reliable Whois data would be helpful in progressing our work. Lynn -------- Original Message -------- Subject: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>> Date: Thu, April 07, 2011 2:46 pm To: "bc-GNSO@icann.org<mailto:bc-GNSO@icann.org>" <bc-GNSO@icann.org<mailto:bc-GNSO@icann.org>> Cc: Janet O'Callaghan <jocallaghan@newscorp.com<mailto:jocallaghan@newscorp.com>>, Lynn Goodendorf <lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com<mailto:lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com>>, Berry Cobb <berrycobb@infinityportals.com<mailto:berrycobb@infinityportals.com>>, Sarah Deutsch <sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com><http://sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com>>;, Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com><http://Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com>>; ICANN is gathering responses to questions posed by the Whois review team. Attached is a discussion draft for BC response prepared by Elisa Cooper. (Steve DelBianco added a bit about Whois studies) On our last member call, several others also volunteered to add to this response, so we're looking forward to your additions: Sara Deutsch Berry Cobb Lynn Goodendorf Janet O'Callaghan ICANN's Comment period closes 17-Apr. Today (7-Apr) begins an 8-day review period for this discussion draft. We can submit this response later if members feel they need the entire 14-day review and discussion period. Please review and post your suggestions/edits as soon as possible. If there are no disagreements noted by 17-Apr, this response will be adopted without a voting period, and posted to ICANN. For topic background, see http://icann.org/en/public-comment/#whois-rt Thanks again to Elisa Cooper for serving as BC Rapporteur on this. Regards, Steve DelBianco Vice chair for policy coordination
My suggestion is that the BC position should strongly support the broader definition. All Web and Internet statistics use the concept of individuals who use the Internet -- e.g. who have access to the Internet. And, I agree with Lynn [and others] that the AoC intended to refer to that broader characterization. Does the draft need to make all that clearer in its language? From: lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com To: sdelbianco@netchoice.org CC: jocallaghan@newscorp.com; berrycobb@infinityportals.com; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com; Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com; bc-GNSO@icann.org Subject: [bc-gnso] RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 17:59:10 -0700 Thanks Steve for this draft and the work of the BC to provide productive comments. As an member of the Whois Review Team, I would personally appreciate support from the BC for the broader definition of "consumer" as a global Internet user rather than the narrow definition that would limit the concept of consumers to registrants and ICANN stakeholders. I maintain that the broader definition is consistent with language in other sections of the AOC that refer to "public interest" and "Internet users" as well as the policy requirement for public availability of Whois data. Also, I believe members of the BC have first hand experience with the UDRP process and a good understanding of the dependency on Whois data for dispute resolution. The BC perspective on this specific need for accurate and reliable Whois data would be helpful in progressing our work.Lynn -------- Original Message -------- Subject: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org> Date: Thu, April 07, 2011 2:46 pm To: "bc-GNSO@icann.org" <bc-GNSO@icann.org> Cc: Janet O'Callaghan <jocallaghan@newscorp.com>, Lynn Goodendorf <lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com>, Berry Cobb <berrycobb@infinityportals.com>, Sarah Deutsch <sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com>;, Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com>; ICANN is gathering responses to questions posed by the Whois review team. Attached is a discussion draft for BC response prepared by Elisa Cooper. (Steve DelBianco added a bit about Whois studies) On our last member call, several others also volunteered to add to this response, so we're looking forward to your additions:Sara DeutschBerry CobbLynn GoodendorfJanet O'Callaghan ICANN's Comment period closes 17-Apr. Today (7-Apr) begins an 8-day review period for this discussion draft. We can submit this response later if members feel they need the entire 14-day review and discussion period. Please review and post your suggestions/edits as soon as possible. If there are no disagreements noted by 17-Apr, this response will be adopted without a voting period, and posted to ICANN. For topic background, see http://icann.org/en/public-comment/#whois-rt Thanks again to Elisa Cooper for serving as BC Rapporteur on this. Regards,Steve DelBiancoVice chair for policy coordination
I'll add RNA Partners voice of support to Lynn's recommendation for a broader definition. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff RNA Partners, Inc. _____ From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Marilyn Cade Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 2:16 AM To: Lynn Goodendorf; Steve Delbianco Cc: Janet Callaghan; Berry Cobb; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com; Elisa Cooper; bc - GNSO list Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team My suggestion is that the BC position should strongly support the broader definition. All Web and Internet statistics use the concept of individuals who use the Internet -- e.g. who have access to the Internet. And, I agree with Lynn [and others] that the AoC intended to refer to that broader characterization. Does the draft need to make all that clearer in its language? _____ From: lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com To: sdelbianco@netchoice.org CC: jocallaghan@newscorp.com; berrycobb@infinityportals.com; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com; Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com; bc-GNSO@icann.org Subject: [bc-gnso] RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 17:59:10 -0700 Thanks Steve for this draft and the work of the BC to provide productive comments. As an member of the Whois Review Team, I would personally appreciate support from the BC for the broader definition of "consumer" as a global Internet user rather than the narrow definition that would limit the concept of consumers to registrants and ICANN stakeholders. I maintain that the broader definition is consistent with language in other sections of the AOC that refer to "public interest" and "Internet users" as well as the policy requirement for public availability of Whois data. Also, I believe members of the BC have first hand experience with the UDRP process and a good understanding of the dependency on Whois data for dispute resolution. The BC perspective on this specific need for accurate and reliable Whois data would be helpful in progressing our work. Lynn -------- Original Message -------- Subject: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org> Date: Thu, April 07, 2011 2:46 pm To: "bc-GNSO@icann.org" <bc-GNSO@icann.org> Cc: Janet O'Callaghan <jocallaghan@newscorp.com>, Lynn Goodendorf <lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com>, Berry Cobb <berrycobb@infinityportals.com>, Sarah Deutsch <sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com <http://verizon.com%3e> >;, Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com <http://markmonitor.com%3e> >; ICANN is gathering responses to questions posed by the Whois review team. Attached is a discussion draft for BC response prepared by Elisa Cooper. (Steve DelBianco added a bit about Whois studies) On our last member call, several others also volunteered to add to this response, so we're looking forward to your additions: Sara Deutsch Berry Cobb Lynn Goodendorf Janet O'Callaghan ICANN's Comment period closes 17-Apr. Today (7-Apr) begins an 8-day review period for this discussion draft. We can submit this response later if members feel they need the entire 14-day review and discussion period. Please review and post your suggestions/edits as soon as possible. If there are no disagreements noted by 17-Apr, this response will be adopted without a voting period, and posted to ICANN. For topic background, see http://icann.org/en/public-comment/#whois-rt Thanks again to Elisa Cooper for serving as BC Rapporteur on this. Regards, Steve DelBianco Vice chair for policy coordination
Please find attached a revised draft which reflects support for a broad definition of "Consumer" and added emphasis as to why timely, unrestricted and public access of Whois is important to business. Best, Elisa Elisa Cooper Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor 208 389- 5779 PH ________________________________ From: Ron Andruff [mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 10:02 AM To: 'Marilyn Cade'; 'Lynn Goodendorf'; 'Steve Delbianco' Cc: 'Janet Callaghan'; 'Berry Cobb'; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com; Elisa Cooper; 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team I'll add RNA Partners voice of support to Lynn's recommendation for a broader definition. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff RNA Partners, Inc. ________________________________ From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Marilyn Cade Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 2:16 AM To: Lynn Goodendorf; Steve Delbianco Cc: Janet Callaghan; Berry Cobb; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com; Elisa Cooper; bc - GNSO list Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team My suggestion is that the BC position should strongly support the broader definition. All Web and Internet statistics use the concept of individuals who use the Internet -- e.g. who have access to the Internet. And, I agree with Lynn [and others] that the AoC intended to refer to that broader characterization. Does the draft need to make all that clearer in its language? ________________________________ From: lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com To: sdelbianco@netchoice.org CC: jocallaghan@newscorp.com; berrycobb@infinityportals.com; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com; Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com; bc-GNSO@icann.org Subject: [bc-gnso] RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 17:59:10 -0700 Thanks Steve for this draft and the work of the BC to provide productive comments. As an member of the Whois Review Team, I would personally appreciate support from the BC for the broader definition of "consumer" as a global Internet user rather than the narrow definition that would limit the concept of consumers to registrants and ICANN stakeholders. I maintain that the broader definition is consistent with language in other sections of the AOC that refer to "public interest" and "Internet users" as well as the policy requirement for public availability of Whois data. Also, I believe members of the BC have first hand experience with the UDRP process and a good understanding of the dependency on Whois data for dispute resolution. The BC perspective on this specific need for accurate and reliable Whois data would be helpful in progressing our work. Lynn -------- Original Message -------- Subject: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org> Date: Thu, April 07, 2011 2:46 pm To: "bc-GNSO@icann.org" <bc-GNSO@icann.org> Cc: Janet O'Callaghan <jocallaghan@newscorp.com>, Lynn Goodendorf <lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com>, Berry Cobb <berrycobb@infinityportals.com>, Sarah Deutsch <sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com> <http://verizon.com%3e> ;, Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com> <http://markmonitor.com%3e> ; ICANN is gathering responses to questions posed by the Whois review team. Attached is a discussion draft for BC response prepared by Elisa Cooper. (Steve DelBianco added a bit about Whois studies) On our last member call, several others also volunteered to add to this response, so we're looking forward to your additions: Sara Deutsch Berry Cobb Lynn Goodendorf Janet O'Callaghan ICANN's Comment period closes 17-Apr. Today (7-Apr) begins an 8-day review period for this discussion draft. We can submit this response later if members feel they need the entire 14-day review and discussion period. Please review and post your suggestions/edits as soon as possible. If there are no disagreements noted by 17-Apr, this response will be adopted without a voting period, and posted to ICANN. For topic background, see http://icann.org/en/public-comment/#whois-rt Thanks again to Elisa Cooper for serving as BC Rapporteur on this. Regards, Steve DelBianco Vice chair for policy coordination
On behalf of News Corporation, David and I support this revised draft with the broader definition of "consumer" and additional emphasis on importance of Whois. Many thanks. From: Elisa Cooper [mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 12:30 PM To: Ron Andruff; Marilyn Cade; Lynn Goodendorf; Steve Delbianco Cc: O'Callaghan, Janet; Berry Cobb; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com; bc - GNSO list Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team Please find attached a revised draft which reflects support for a broad definition of "Consumer" and added emphasis as to why timely, unrestricted and public access of Whois is important to business. Best, Elisa Elisa Cooper Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor 208 389- 5779 PH ________________________________ From: Ron Andruff [mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 10:02 AM To: 'Marilyn Cade'; 'Lynn Goodendorf'; 'Steve Delbianco' Cc: 'Janet Callaghan'; 'Berry Cobb'; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com; Elisa Cooper; 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team I'll add RNA Partners voice of support to Lynn's recommendation for a broader definition. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff RNA Partners, Inc. ________________________________ From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Marilyn Cade Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 2:16 AM To: Lynn Goodendorf; Steve Delbianco Cc: Janet Callaghan; Berry Cobb; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com; Elisa Cooper; bc - GNSO list Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team My suggestion is that the BC position should strongly support the broader definition. All Web and Internet statistics use the concept of individuals who use the Internet -- e.g. who have access to the Internet. And, I agree with Lynn [and others] that the AoC intended to refer to that broader characterization. Does the draft need to make all that clearer in its language? ________________________________ From: lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com To: sdelbianco@netchoice.org CC: jocallaghan@newscorp.com; berrycobb@infinityportals.com; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com; Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com; bc-GNSO@icann.org Subject: [bc-gnso] RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 17:59:10 -0700 Thanks Steve for this draft and the work of the BC to provide productive comments. As an member of the Whois Review Team, I would personally appreciate support from the BC for the broader definition of "consumer" as a global Internet user rather than the narrow definition that would limit the concept of consumers to registrants and ICANN stakeholders. I maintain that the broader definition is consistent with language in other sections of the AOC that refer to "public interest" and "Internet users" as well as the policy requirement for public availability of Whois data. Also, I believe members of the BC have first hand experience with the UDRP process and a good understanding of the dependency on Whois data for dispute resolution. The BC perspective on this specific need for accurate and reliable Whois data would be helpful in progressing our work. Lynn -------- Original Message -------- Subject: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>> Date: Thu, April 07, 2011 2:46 pm To: "bc-GNSO@icann.org<mailto:bc-GNSO@icann.org>" <bc-GNSO@icann.org<mailto:bc-GNSO@icann.org>> Cc: Janet O'Callaghan <jocallaghan@newscorp.com<mailto:jocallaghan@newscorp.com>>, Lynn Goodendorf <lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com<mailto:lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com>>, Berry Cobb <berrycobb@infinityportals.com<mailto:berrycobb@infinityportals.com>>, Sarah Deutsch <sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com><http://verizon.com%3e>;, Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com><http://markmonitor.com%3e>; ICANN is gathering responses to questions posed by the Whois review team. Attached is a discussion draft for BC response prepared by Elisa Cooper. (Steve DelBianco added a bit about Whois studies) On our last member call, several others also volunteered to add to this response, so we're looking forward to your additions: Sara Deutsch Berry Cobb Lynn Goodendorf Janet O'Callaghan ICANN's Comment period closes 17-Apr. Today (7-Apr) begins an 8-day review period for this discussion draft. We can submit this response later if members feel they need the entire 14-day review and discussion period. Please review and post your suggestions/edits as soon as possible. If there are no disagreements noted by 17-Apr, this response will be adopted without a voting period, and posted to ICANN. For topic background, see http://icann.org/en/public-comment/#whois-rt Thanks again to Elisa Cooper for serving as BC Rapporteur on this. Regards, Steve DelBianco Vice chair for policy coordination This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. 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I fixed a couple of typos. I also added in that the RT can review external data sources/reputable reports. I did not define 'reputable'. From: JOCallaghan@newscorp.com To: Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com; randruff@rnapartners.com; marilynscade@hotmail.com; lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com; sdelbianco@netchoice.org CC: berrycobb@infinityportals.com; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com; bc-gnso@icann.org Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:47:36 -0400 Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team On behalf of News Corporation, David and I support this revised draft with the broader definition of “consumer” and additional emphasis on importance of Whois. Many thanks. From: Elisa Cooper [mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 12:30 PM To: Ron Andruff; Marilyn Cade; Lynn Goodendorf; Steve Delbianco Cc: O'Callaghan, Janet; Berry Cobb; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com; bc - GNSO list Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team Please find attached a revised draft which reflects support for a broad definition of “Consumer” and added emphasis as to why timely, unrestricted and public access of Whois is important to business. Best, Elisa Elisa Cooper Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor 208 389- 5779 PH From: Ron Andruff [mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 10:02 AM To: 'Marilyn Cade'; 'Lynn Goodendorf'; 'Steve Delbianco' Cc: 'Janet Callaghan'; 'Berry Cobb'; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com; Elisa Cooper; 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team I’ll add RNA Partners voice of support to Lynn’s recommendation for a broader definition. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff RNA Partners, Inc. From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Marilyn Cade Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 2:16 AM To: Lynn Goodendorf; Steve Delbianco Cc: Janet Callaghan; Berry Cobb; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com; Elisa Cooper; bc - GNSO list Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team My suggestion is that the BC position should strongly support the broader definition. All Web and Internet statistics use the concept of individuals who use the Internet -- e.g. who have access to the Internet. And, I agree with Lynn [and others] that the AoC intended to refer to that broader characterization. Does the draft need to make all that clearer in its language? From: lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com To: sdelbianco@netchoice.org CC: jocallaghan@newscorp.com; berrycobb@infinityportals.com; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com; Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com; bc-GNSO@icann.org Subject: [bc-gnso] RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 17:59:10 -0700 Thanks Steve for this draft and the work of the BC to provide productive comments. As an member of the Whois Review Team, I would personally appreciate support from the BC for the broader definition of "consumer" as a global Internet user rather than the narrow definition that would limit the concept of consumers to registrants and ICANN stakeholders. I maintain that the broader definition is consistent with language in other sections of the AOC that refer to "public interest" and "Internet users" as well as the policy requirement for public availability of Whois data. Also, I believe members of the BC have first hand experience with the UDRP process and a good understanding of the dependency on Whois data for dispute resolution. The BC perspective on this specific need for accurate and reliable Whois data would be helpful in progressing our work. Lynn -------- Original Message -------- Subject: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org> Date: Thu, April 07, 2011 2:46 pm To: "bc-GNSO@icann.org" <bc-GNSO@icann.org> Cc: Janet O'Callaghan <jocallaghan@newscorp.com>, Lynn Goodendorf <lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com>, Berry Cobb <berrycobb@infinityportals.com>, Sarah Deutsch <sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com>;, Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com>; ICANN is gathering responses to questions posed by the Whois review team. Attached is a discussion draft for BC response prepared by Elisa Cooper. (Steve DelBianco added a bit about Whois studies) On our last member call, several others also volunteered to add to this response, so we're looking forward to your additions: Sara Deutsch Berry Cobb Lynn Goodendorf Janet O'Callaghan ICANN's Comment period closes 17-Apr. Today (7-Apr) begins an 8-day review period for this discussion draft. We can submit this response later if members feel they need the entire 14-day review and discussion period. Please review and post your suggestions/edits as soon as possible. If there are no disagreements noted by 17-Apr, this response will be adopted without a voting period, and posted to ICANN. For topic background, see http://icann.org/en/public-comment/#whois-rt Thanks again to Elisa Cooper for serving as BC Rapporteur on this. Regards, Steve DelBianco Vice chair for policy coordination This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee), you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. 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Sorry! here is document with changes. a couple are missing words. From: marilynscade@hotmail.com To: jocallaghan@newscorp.com; elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com; randruff@rnapartners.com; lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com; sdelbianco@netchoice.org CC: berrycobb@infinityportals.com; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com; bc-gnso@icann.org Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team - TWO changes Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:35:57 -0400 I fixed a couple of typos. I also added in that the RT can review external data sources/reputable reports. I did not define 'reputable'. From: JOCallaghan@newscorp.com To: Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com; randruff@rnapartners.com; marilynscade@hotmail.com; lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com; sdelbianco@netchoice.org CC: berrycobb@infinityportals.com; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com; bc-gnso@icann.org Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:47:36 -0400 Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team On behalf of News Corporation, David and I support this revised draft with the broader definition of “consumer” and additional emphasis on importance of Whois. Many thanks. From: Elisa Cooper [mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 12:30 PM To: Ron Andruff; Marilyn Cade; Lynn Goodendorf; Steve Delbianco Cc: O'Callaghan, Janet; Berry Cobb; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com; bc - GNSO list Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team Please find attached a revised draft which reflects support for a broad definition of “Consumer” and added emphasis as to why timely, unrestricted and public access of Whois is important to business. Best, Elisa Elisa Cooper Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor 208 389- 5779 PH From: Ron Andruff [mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 10:02 AM To: 'Marilyn Cade'; 'Lynn Goodendorf'; 'Steve Delbianco' Cc: 'Janet Callaghan'; 'Berry Cobb'; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com; Elisa Cooper; 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team I’ll add RNA Partners voice of support to Lynn’s recommendation for a broader definition. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff RNA Partners, Inc. From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Marilyn Cade Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 2:16 AM To: Lynn Goodendorf; Steve Delbianco Cc: Janet Callaghan; Berry Cobb; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com; Elisa Cooper; bc - GNSO list Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team My suggestion is that the BC position should strongly support the broader definition. All Web and Internet statistics use the concept of individuals who use the Internet -- e.g. who have access to the Internet. And, I agree with Lynn [and others] that the AoC intended to refer to that broader characterization. Does the draft need to make all that clearer in its language? From: lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com To: sdelbianco@netchoice.org CC: jocallaghan@newscorp.com; berrycobb@infinityportals.com; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com; Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com; bc-GNSO@icann.org Subject: [bc-gnso] RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 17:59:10 -0700 Thanks Steve for this draft and the work of the BC to provide productive comments. As an member of the Whois Review Team, I would personally appreciate support from the BC for the broader definition of "consumer" as a global Internet user rather than the narrow definition that would limit the concept of consumers to registrants and ICANN stakeholders. I maintain that the broader definition is consistent with language in other sections of the AOC that refer to "public interest" and "Internet users" as well as the policy requirement for public availability of Whois data. Also, I believe members of the BC have first hand experience with the UDRP process and a good understanding of the dependency on Whois data for dispute resolution. The BC perspective on this specific need for accurate and reliable Whois data would be helpful in progressing our work. Lynn -------- Original Message -------- Subject: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org> Date: Thu, April 07, 2011 2:46 pm To: "bc-GNSO@icann.org" <bc-GNSO@icann.org> Cc: Janet O'Callaghan <jocallaghan@newscorp.com>, Lynn Goodendorf <lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com>, Berry Cobb <berrycobb@infinityportals.com>, Sarah Deutsch <sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com>;, Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com>; ICANN is gathering responses to questions posed by the Whois review team. Attached is a discussion draft for BC response prepared by Elisa Cooper. (Steve DelBianco added a bit about Whois studies) On our last member call, several others also volunteered to add to this response, so we're looking forward to your additions: Sara Deutsch Berry Cobb Lynn Goodendorf Janet O'Callaghan ICANN's Comment period closes 17-Apr. Today (7-Apr) begins an 8-day review period for this discussion draft. We can submit this response later if members feel they need the entire 14-day review and discussion period. Please review and post your suggestions/edits as soon as possible. If there are no disagreements noted by 17-Apr, this response will be adopted without a voting period, and posted to ICANN. For topic background, see http://icann.org/en/public-comment/#whois-rt Thanks again to Elisa Cooper for serving as BC Rapporteur on this. Regards, Steve DelBianco Vice chair for policy coordination This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee), you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. 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Elisa Cooper -
Lynn Goodendorf -
lynn＠goodsecurityconsulting.com
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Marilyn Cade -
O'Callaghan, Janet -
Ron Andruff -
Steve DelBianco