BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th
From: BC Secretariat Date: October 16th, 2013 CC: Glen De Saint Gery, Returning Officer ,Robert Hoggarth, Verifying Officer, <mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> bcvotes@hotmail.com Re: BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business NomCom Seat Elections: Reminder - Nominations Close on Friday, Oct.18th Please note that this is the announcement for the BC elections for one of the two BC GNSO Councilor seats and the Small Business Seat on the Nominating Committee . Please note that the nomination period will close on Friday, October 18th. If you would like to submit a nomination, please follow the procedure outlined in the election procedure attached, and submit your nomination to the <mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> bcvotes@hotmail.com email address prior to Friday COB. Candidate statements should also be sent to the <mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> bcvotes@hotmail.com no later than Sunday, Oct. 20th. Once again, please refer to the attachment for the full details regarding this election. Transmitted by the BC Secretariat: Benedetta Rossi, serving as Voting Officer -- Kind Regards, Benedetta Rossi BC Secretariat bc-secretariat@icann.org <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home www.bizconst.org
Hi everyone, I would like te reiterate that I find it very odd that as a group, we prefer to have private nominations. If I am willing to support someone, I have no qualms about making that support public. Moreover, I find it troublesome that as a BC member, I do not know *until the nomination deadline has passed* whether someone has been nominated for a position or not. I am left with having to try to read into a reminder message such as this one whether it is being sent two days before the deadline because there have been no nominations, or because it's just two days before the deadline. And if I did know what nominations had been made, especially if none had been made, I might be spurred on to reach out to other potential candidates and try to get them on board. But with the current private nomination system, I just don't know. Is there a historical reason for having private nominations? Do others feel, like I do, that it's time to put an end to the secrecy and to run fully transparent election processes? Thanks, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/ On 16 October 2013 18:47, Benedetta Rossi <bc-secretariat@icann.org> wrote:
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*From: BC Secretariat* *Date: October 16th, 2013* *CC: Glen De Saint Gery, Returning Officer ,Robert Hoggarth, Verifying Officer*, *bcvotes@hotmail.com* *Re: BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business NomCom Seat Elections: Reminder – Nominations Close on Friday, Oct.18th*
Please note that this is the announcement for the BC elections for one of the two BC GNSO Councilor seats and the Small Business Seat on the Nominating Committee . *Please note that the nomination period will close on Friday, October 18th*. If you would like to submit a nomination, please follow the procedure outlined in the election procedure attached, and submit your nomination to the bcvotes@hotmail.com email address prior to Friday COB. ****
Candidate statements should also be sent to the bcvotes@hotmail.com no later than Sunday, Oct. 20th. ****
*Once again, please refer to the attachment for the full details regarding this election.*
Transmitted by the BC Secretariat: Benedetta Rossi, serving as Voting Officer****
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Yes, I feel that way too and am curious why it is set up this way. Anjali Karina Hansen Deputy General Counsel Tel: 703-247-9340 Fax: 703-276-0634 Email: ahansen@council.bbb.org<mailto:ahansen@council.bbb.org> bbb.org<http://www.bbb.org/> Start With Trust® Council of Better Business Bureaus, Inc. 3033 Wilson Boulevard, Suite 600 Arlington, VA 22201 For consumer tips, scams and alerts: Read our blog <http://www.bbb.org/blog/>Find us on: Twitter<http://www.twitter.com/bbb_us> | Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/pages/Better-Business-Bureau-US/25368131403> | LinkedIn<http://www.linkedin.com/groups?about=&gid=1917928&trk=anet_ug_grppro> | YouTube<http://www.youtube.com/user/BBBconsumerTips> | Flickr<http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbb_us> This message is a private communication, and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you have received this message by mistake, please notify the sender by reply email and then delete the message from your system without printing, copying or forwarding it. Thank you. From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Stephane Van Gelder Consulting Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 4:40 PM To: Benedetta Rossi; bc-gnso@icann.org Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th Hi everyone, I would like te reiterate that I find it very odd that as a group, we prefer to have private nominations. If I am willing to support someone, I have no qualms about making that support public. Moreover, I find it troublesome that as a BC member, I do not know until the nomination deadline has passed whether someone has been nominated for a position or not. I am left with having to try to read into a reminder message such as this one whether it is being sent two days before the deadline because there have been no nominations, or because it's just two days before the deadline. And if I did know what nominations had been made, especially if none had been made, I might be spurred on to reach out to other potential candidates and try to get them on board. But with the current private nomination system, I just don't know. Is there a historical reason for having private nominations? Do others feel, like I do, that it's time to put an end to the secrecy and to run fully transparent election processes? Thanks, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com<http://www.StephaneVanGelder.com> ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant<http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant> LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/<http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/> On 16 October 2013 18:47, Benedetta Rossi <bc-secretariat@icann.org<mailto:bc-secretariat@icann.org>> wrote: From: BC Secretariat Date: October 16th, 2013 CC: Glen De Saint Gery, Returning Officer ,Robert Hoggarth, Verifying Officer, bcvotes@hotmail.com<mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> Re: BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business NomCom Seat Elections: Reminder - Nominations Close on Friday, Oct.18th Please note that this is the announcement for the BC elections for one of the two BC GNSO Councilor seats and the Small Business Seat on the Nominating Committee . Please note that the nomination period will close on Friday, October 18th. If you would like to submit a nomination, please follow the procedure outlined in the election procedure attached, and submit your nomination to the bcvotes@hotmail.com<mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> email address prior to Friday COB. Candidate statements should also be sent to the bcvotes@hotmail.com<mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> no later than Sunday, Oct. 20th. Once again, please refer to the attachment for the full details regarding this election. Transmitted by the BC Secretariat: Benedetta Rossi, serving as Voting Officer -- Kind Regards, Benedetta Rossi BC Secretariat bc-secretariat@icann.org<http://bc-secretariat@icann.org> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home www.bizconst.org<http://www.bizconst.org>
I agree as well, and I am not aware of why it was setup this way. Best, Elisa Elisa Cooper Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor Elisa Cooper Chair ICANN Business Constituency 208 389-5779 PH **PLEASE NOTE THAT I WILL BE OUT OF THE OFFICE OCTOBER 23, WITH VERY LIMITED ACCESS TO E-MAIL** From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Hansen, Anjali Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 2:56 PM To: 'svg@stephanevangelder.com'; Benedetta Rossi; bc-gnso@icann.org Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th Yes, I feel that way too and am curious why it is set up this way. Anjali Karina Hansen Deputy General Counsel Tel: 703-247-9340 Fax: 703-276-0634 Email: ahansen@council.bbb.org<mailto:ahansen@council.bbb.org> bbb.org<http://www.bbb.org/> Start With Trust® Council of Better Business Bureaus, Inc. 3033 Wilson Boulevard, Suite 600 Arlington, VA 22201 For consumer tips, scams and alerts: Read our blog <http://www.bbb.org/blog/>Find us on: Twitter<http://www.twitter.com/bbb_us> | Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/pages/Better-Business-Bureau-US/25368131403> | LinkedIn<http://www.linkedin.com/groups?about=&gid=1917928&trk=anet_ug_grppro> | YouTube<http://www.youtube.com/user/BBBconsumerTips> | Flickr<http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbb_us> This message is a private communication, and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you have received this message by mistake, please notify the sender by reply email and then delete the message from your system without printing, copying or forwarding it. Thank you. From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org> [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Stephane Van Gelder Consulting Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 4:40 PM To: Benedetta Rossi; bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th Hi everyone, I would like te reiterate that I find it very odd that as a group, we prefer to have private nominations. If I am willing to support someone, I have no qualms about making that support public. Moreover, I find it troublesome that as a BC member, I do not know until the nomination deadline has passed whether someone has been nominated for a position or not. I am left with having to try to read into a reminder message such as this one whether it is being sent two days before the deadline because there have been no nominations, or because it's just two days before the deadline. And if I did know what nominations had been made, especially if none had been made, I might be spurred on to reach out to other potential candidates and try to get them on board. But with the current private nomination system, I just don't know. Is there a historical reason for having private nominations? Do others feel, like I do, that it's time to put an end to the secrecy and to run fully transparent election processes? Thanks, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com<http://www.StephaneVanGelder.com> ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant<http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant> LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/<http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/> On 16 October 2013 18:47, Benedetta Rossi <bc-secretariat@icann.org<mailto:bc-secretariat@icann.org>> wrote: From: BC Secretariat Date: October 16th, 2013 CC: Glen De Saint Gery, Returning Officer ,Robert Hoggarth, Verifying Officer, bcvotes@hotmail.com<mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> Re: BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business NomCom Seat Elections: Reminder - Nominations Close on Friday, Oct.18th Please note that this is the announcement for the BC elections for one of the two BC GNSO Councilor seats and the Small Business Seat on the Nominating Committee . Please note that the nomination period will close on Friday, October 18th. If you would like to submit a nomination, please follow the procedure outlined in the election procedure attached, and submit your nomination to the bcvotes@hotmail.com<mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> email address prior to Friday COB. Candidate statements should also be sent to the bcvotes@hotmail.com<mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> no later than Sunday, Oct. 20th. Once again, please refer to the attachment for the full details regarding this election. Transmitted by the BC Secretariat: Benedetta Rossi, serving as Voting Officer -- Kind Regards, Benedetta Rossi BC Secretariat bc-secretariat@icann.org<http://bc-secretariat@icann.org> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home www.bizconst.org<http://www.bizconst.org>
I agree. We've spent countless hours as a constituency trying to fix a series of practices that could reasonably be perceived inside and outside the BC as election irregularities. The entire notion of having "private nominations" is a vestige from our past closed practices. As a reminder, some of the election issues we've recently had to address included: (1) advocating for an actual fair election vs. the appointment of the Nomcom seat; (2) debating whether the separate seats on the Nomcom for small and large business representatives were somehow interchangeable; and (3) recent issues notifying members about the opening of the elections and then informing members who voted right away that their ballots were received "too early" and needed to be resubmitted. Can we all just agree that we should err on the side of openness with everything associated with BC elections? If there are differing points of view, perhaps we consult with ICANN staff about the best way to address this concern? Thanks, Sarah Sarah B. Deutsch Vice President & Deputy General Counsel Verizon Communications Phone: 703-351-3044 Fax: 703-351-3670 From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Stephane Van Gelder Consulting Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 4:40 PM To: Benedetta Rossi; bc-gnso@icann.org Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th Hi everyone, I would like te reiterate that I find it very odd that as a group, we prefer to have private nominations. If I am willing to support someone, I have no qualms about making that support public. Moreover, I find it troublesome that as a BC member, I do not know until the nomination deadline has passed whether someone has been nominated for a position or not. I am left with having to try to read into a reminder message such as this one whether it is being sent two days before the deadline because there have been no nominations, or because it's just two days before the deadline. And if I did know what nominations had been made, especially if none had been made, I might be spurred on to reach out to other potential candidates and try to get them on board. But with the current private nomination system, I just don't know. Is there a historical reason for having private nominations? Do others feel, like I do, that it's time to put an end to the secrecy and to run fully transparent election processes? Thanks, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com<http://www.StephaneVanGelder.com> ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant<http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant> LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/<http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/> On 16 October 2013 18:47, Benedetta Rossi <bc-secretariat@icann.org<mailto:bc-secretariat@icann.org>> wrote: From: BC Secretariat Date: October 16th, 2013 CC: Glen De Saint Gery, Returning Officer ,Robert Hoggarth, Verifying Officer, bcvotes@hotmail.com<mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> Re: BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business NomCom Seat Elections: Reminder - Nominations Close on Friday, Oct.18th Please note that this is the announcement for the BC elections for one of the two BC GNSO Councilor seats and the Small Business Seat on the Nominating Committee . Please note that the nomination period will close on Friday, October 18th. If you would like to submit a nomination, please follow the procedure outlined in the election procedure attached, and submit your nomination to the bcvotes@hotmail.com<mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> email address prior to Friday COB. Candidate statements should also be sent to the bcvotes@hotmail.com<mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> no later than Sunday, Oct. 20th. Once again, please refer to the attachment for the full details regarding this election. Transmitted by the BC Secretariat: Benedetta Rossi, serving as Voting Officer -- Kind Regards, Benedetta Rossi BC Secretariat bc-secretariat@icann.org<http://bc-secretariat@icann.org> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home www.bizconst.org<http://www.bizconst.org>
Thanks Michael, Your gesture is much appreciated. Best, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/ On 17 October 2013 05:02, Michael Castello <michaelc@traveler.com> wrote:
Hello Sarah,
Since there is appears to be consensus on open nominations; I placed Phil Corwin in nomination for the GNSO seat.
Michael Castello CEO/President Castello Cities Internet Network, Inc. http://www.ccin.com michael@ccin.com
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Wednesday, October 16, 2013, 2:53:01 PM, you wrote:
I agree. We’ve spent countless hours as a constituency trying to fix a series of practices that could reasonably be perceived inside and outside the BC as election irregularities. The entire notion of having “private nominations” is a vestige from our past closed practices.
As a reminder, some of the election issues we’ve recently had to address included: (1) advocating for an actual fair election vs. the appointment of the Nomcom seat; (2) debating whether the separate seats on the Nomcom for small and large business representatives were somehow interchangeable; and (3) recent issues notifying members about the opening of the elections and then informing members who voted right away that their ballots were received “too early” and needed to be resubmitted.
Can we all just agree that we should err on the side of openness with everything associated with BC elections? If there are differing points of view, perhaps we consult with ICANN staff about the best way to address this concern?
Thanks,
Sarah
Sarah B. Deutsch Vice President & Deputy General Counsel Verizon Communications Phone: 703-351-3044 Fax: 703-351-3670
*From:* owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Stephane Van Gelder Consulting *Sent:* Wednesday, October 16, 2013 4:40 PM *To:* Benedetta Rossi; bc-gnso@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th
Hi everyone,
I would like te reiterate that I find it very odd that as a group, we prefer to have private nominations.
If I am willing to support someone, I have no qualms about making that support public. Moreover, I find it troublesome that as a BC member, I do not know *until the nomination deadline has passed* whether someone has been nominated for a position or not.
I am left with having to try to read into a reminder message such as this one whether it is being sent two days before the deadline because there have been no nominations, or because it's just two days before the deadline.
And if I did know what nominations had been made, especially if none had been made, I might be spurred on to reach out to other potential candidates and try to get them on board. But with the current private nomination system, I just don't know.
Is there a historical reason for having private nominations? Do others feel, like I do, that it's time to put an end to the secrecy and to run fully transparent election processes?
Thanks,
Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING
T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/
On 16 October 2013 18:47, Benedetta Rossi <bc-secretariat@icann.org> wrote:
*From: BC Secretariat Date: October 16th, 2013 CC: Glen De Saint Gery, Returning Officer ,Robert Hoggarth, Verifying Officer*, bcvotes@hotmail.com *Re: BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business NomCom Seat Elections: Reminder – Nominations Close on Friday, Oct.18th
*Please note that this is the announcement for the BC elections for one of the two BC GNSO Councilor seats and the Small Business Seat on the Nominating Committee . *Please note that the nomination period will close on Friday, October 18th*. If you would like to submit a nomination, please follow the procedure outlined in the election procedure attached, and submit your nomination to the bcvotes@hotmail.com email address prior to Friday COB. Candidate statements should also be sent to the bcvotes@hotmail.com no later than Sunday, Oct. 20th. *Once again, please refer to the attachment for the full details regarding this election.
*Transmitted by the BC Secretariat: Benedetta Rossi, serving as Voting Officer
-- Kind Regards,
Benedetta Rossi BC Secretariat bc-secretariat@icann.org https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home www.bizconst.org
Dear all, I also do not know why nominations are private and I agree with Stephane -and others who have supported his initial comment-, on a more open process. I am happy to share I have been also nominated for the GNSO councilor position. Regards, Gabi Enviado desde mi BlackBerry de Movistar (http://www.movistar.com.ar) -----Original Message----- From: Stephane Van Gelder Consulting <svg@stephanevangelder.com> Sender: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 08:09:00 To: Michael Castello<michaelc@traveler.com> Reply-To: svg@stephanevangelder.com Cc: Deutsch, Sarah B<sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com>; svg@stephanevangelder.com<svg@stephanevangelder.com>; Benedetta Rossi<bc-secretariat@icann.org>; bc-gnso@icann.org<bc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th Thanks Michael, Your gesture is much appreciated. Best, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/ On 17 October 2013 05:02, Michael Castello <michaelc@traveler.com> wrote:
Hello Sarah,
Since there is appears to be consensus on open nominations; I placed Phil Corwin in nomination for the GNSO seat.
Michael Castello CEO/President Castello Cities Internet Network, Inc. http://www.ccin.com michael@ccin.com
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Wednesday, October 16, 2013, 2:53:01 PM, you wrote:
I agree. We’ve spent countless hours as a constituency trying to fix a series of practices that could reasonably be perceived inside and outside the BC as election irregularities. The entire notion of having “private nominations” is a vestige from our past closed practices.
As a reminder, some of the election issues we’ve recently had to address included: (1) advocating for an actual fair election vs. the appointment of the Nomcom seat; (2) debating whether the separate seats on the Nomcom for small and large business representatives were somehow interchangeable; and (3) recent issues notifying members about the opening of the elections and then informing members who voted right away that their ballots were received “too early” and needed to be resubmitted.
Can we all just agree that we should err on the side of openness with everything associated with BC elections? If there are differing points of view, perhaps we consult with ICANN staff about the best way to address this concern?
Thanks,
Sarah
Sarah B. Deutsch Vice President & Deputy General Counsel Verizon Communications Phone: 703-351-3044 Fax: 703-351-3670
*From:* owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Stephane Van Gelder Consulting *Sent:* Wednesday, October 16, 2013 4:40 PM *To:* Benedetta Rossi; bc-gnso@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th
Hi everyone,
I would like te reiterate that I find it very odd that as a group, we prefer to have private nominations.
If I am willing to support someone, I have no qualms about making that support public. Moreover, I find it troublesome that as a BC member, I do not know *until the nomination deadline has passed* whether someone has been nominated for a position or not.
I am left with having to try to read into a reminder message such as this one whether it is being sent two days before the deadline because there have been no nominations, or because it's just two days before the deadline.
And if I did know what nominations had been made, especially if none had been made, I might be spurred on to reach out to other potential candidates and try to get them on board. But with the current private nomination system, I just don't know.
Is there a historical reason for having private nominations? Do others feel, like I do, that it's time to put an end to the secrecy and to run fully transparent election processes?
Thanks,
Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING
T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/
On 16 October 2013 18:47, Benedetta Rossi <bc-secretariat@icann.org> wrote:
*From: BC Secretariat Date: October 16th, 2013 CC: Glen De Saint Gery, Returning Officer ,Robert Hoggarth, Verifying Officer*, bcvotes@hotmail.com *Re: BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business NomCom Seat Elections: Reminder – Nominations Close on Friday, Oct.18th
*Please note that this is the announcement for the BC elections for one of the two BC GNSO Councilor seats and the Small Business Seat on the Nominating Committee . *Please note that the nomination period will close on Friday, October 18th*. If you would like to submit a nomination, please follow the procedure outlined in the election procedure attached, and submit your nomination to the bcvotes@hotmail.com email address prior to Friday COB. Candidate statements should also be sent to the bcvotes@hotmail.com no later than Sunday, Oct. 20th. *Once again, please refer to the attachment for the full details regarding this election.
*Transmitted by the BC Secretariat: Benedetta Rossi, serving as Voting Officer
-- Kind Regards,
Benedetta Rossi BC Secretariat bc-secretariat@icann.org https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home www.bizconst.org
Dear BC Members, Thank you for your feedback regarding the election process, it is very helpful. I will compile all comments received and aggregate them in order to improve the election procedure as much as possible, and bring it to the Executive Committee for approval for the next election. The current election procedure was indeed approved by the Executive Committee prior to the opening of the election. In terms of historical procedures I can only speak from 2011 onwards, date I started working for the BC, and the procedure was very similar to the current one for elections, I just compiled the document making the procedure clearer for members without changing the actual procedure itself. In the previous Secretariats procedures manual the procedure was indeed the same. For this election I changed what Sarah mentioned and moved the date of the opening of the votes to the same date as the reception of ballots to avoid having members voting prior to the opening of the vote, as it happened in the last election. Thank you again for your feedback, Sarah. Regarding the closed nomination process, as Chris mentioned the Voting Officer is bound by the BC Charter (Section 8.2.3 Special Rules for Elections) to not announce nominations until the close of the nomination period. Members nominating or being nominated are allowed to announce their nominations if they so wish. The actual process by which members submit their votes to <mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> bcvotes@hotmail.com is in place to allow access to the Verifying Officer and Returning Officer, and for records, but could be modified for members to submit their nominations directly to the BC list moving forward, if this is what members wish to do. As previously noted I will gather all of the submitted comments, modify the election procedure for future elections, and submit it to the Executive Committee for approval. Thank you ever so much, Kind Regards, Benedetta Rossi BC Secretariat bc-secretariat@icann.org https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home www.bizconst.org From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of gabrielaszlak@gmail.com Sent: jeudi 17 octobre 2013 08:23 To: svg@stephanevangelder.com; Michael Castello Cc: Sarah Deutsch; Benedetta Rossi; bc - GNSO list Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th Dear all, I also do not know why nominations are private and I agree with Stephane -and others who have supported his initial comment-, on a more open process. I am happy to share I have been also nominated for the GNSO councilor position. Regards, Gabi Enviado desde mi BlackBerry de Movistar (http://www.movistar.com.ar) _____ From: Stephane Van Gelder Consulting < <mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com> svg@stephanevangelder.com> Sender: <mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org> owner-bc-gnso@icann.org Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 08:09:00 +0200 To: Michael Castello< <mailto:michaelc@traveler.com> michaelc@traveler.com> ReplyTo: <mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com> svg@stephanevangelder.com Cc: Deutsch, Sarah B< <mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com> sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com>; <mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com%3csvg@stephanevangelder.com> svg@stephanevangelder.com<svg@stephanevangelder.com>; Benedetta Rossi< <mailto:bc-secretariat@icann.org> bc-secretariat@icann.org>; <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org%3cbc-gnso@icann.org> bc-gnso@icann.org<bc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th Thanks Michael, Your gesture is much appreciated. Best, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/ On 17 October 2013 05:02, Michael Castello <michaelc@traveler.com> wrote: Hello Sarah, Since there is appears to be consensus on open nominations; I placed Phil Corwin in nomination for the GNSO seat. Michael Castello CEO/President Castello Cities Internet Network, Inc. http://www.ccin.com michael@ccin.com -- Wednesday, October 16, 2013, 2:53:01 PM, you wrote: I agree. Weve spent countless hours as a constituency trying to fix a series of practices that could reasonably be perceived inside and outside the BC as election irregularities. The entire notion of having private nominations is a vestige from our past closed practices. As a reminder, some of the election issues weve recently had to address included: (1) advocating for an actual fair election vs. the appointment of the Nomcom seat; (2) debating whether the separate seats on the Nomcom for small and large business representatives were somehow interchangeable; and (3) recent issues notifying members about the opening of the elections and then informing members who voted right away that their ballots were received too early and needed to be resubmitted. Can we all just agree that we should err on the side of openness with everything associated with BC elections? If there are differing points of view, perhaps we consult with ICANN staff about the best way to address this concern? Thanks, Sarah Sarah B. Deutsch Vice President & Deputy General Counsel Verizon Communications Phone: 703-351-3044 Fax: 703-351-3670 From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Stephane Van Gelder Consulting Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 4:40 PM To: Benedetta Rossi; bc-gnso@icann.org Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th Hi everyone, I would like te reiterate that I find it very odd that as a group, we prefer to have private nominations. If I am willing to support someone, I have no qualms about making that support public. Moreover, I find it troublesome that as a BC member, I do not know until the nomination deadline has passed whether someone has been nominated for a position or not. I am left with having to try to read into a reminder message such as this one whether it is being sent two days before the deadline because there have been no nominations, or because it's just two days before the deadline. And if I did know what nominations had been made, especially if none had been made, I might be spurred on to reach out to other potential candidates and try to get them on board. But with the current private nomination system, I just don't know. Is there a historical reason for having private nominations? Do others feel, like I do, that it's time to put an end to the secrecy and to run fully transparent election processes? Thanks, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 <tel:%2B33%20%280%296%2020%2040%2055%2089> T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 <tel:%2B44%20%280%297583%20457053> Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/ On 16 October 2013 18:47, Benedetta Rossi <bc-secretariat@icann.org> wrote: From: BC Secretariat Date: October 16th, 2013 CC: Glen De Saint Gery, Returning Officer ,Robert Hoggarth, Verifying Officer, <mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> bcvotes@hotmail.com Re: BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business NomCom Seat Elections: Reminder Nominations Close on Friday, Oct.18th Please note that this is the announcement for the BC elections for one of the two BC GNSO Councilor seats and the Small Business Seat on the Nominating Committee . Please note that the nomination period will close on Friday, October 18th. If you would like to submit a nomination, please follow the procedure outlined in the election procedure attached, and submit your nomination to the bcvotes@hotmail.com email address prior to Friday COB. Candidate statements should also be sent to the bcvotes@hotmail.com no later than Sunday, Oct. 20th. Once again, please refer to the attachment for the full details regarding this election. Transmitted by the BC Secretariat: Benedetta Rossi, serving as Voting Officer -- Kind Regards, Benedetta Rossi BC Secretariat bc-secretariat@icann.org https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home www.bizconst.org
Thanks Bene, Your explanations are very useful and provide great historical context. I see no reason why nominations could not be sent to the list and made public, whilst being recorded by the voting officers. This is the way it's done in the registrars SG and in all my years there, I cannot recall ever witnessing an election problem. I would add that transparency in the RrSG extends to the votes, which are published after the elections. I have always found this to be a very efficient way of allowing the voters to check that their votes were properly accepted and recorded. So to me that is another step in the direction of good election processes. Please note that these are suggestions based on my own personal experience and penchant for transparency. I hope people do not feel I am overstepping in discussing this. Best, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/ On 17 October 2013 08:51, Benedetta Rossi <bc-secretariat@icann.org> wrote:
Dear BC Members,****
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Thank you for your feedback regarding the election process, it is very helpful. I will compile all comments received and aggregate them in order to improve the election procedure as much as possible, and bring it to the Executive Committee for approval for the next election. The current election procedure was indeed approved by the Executive Committee prior to the opening of the election.****
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In terms of historical procedures I can only speak from 2011 onwards, date I started working for the BC, and the procedure was very similar to the current one for elections, I just compiled the document making the procedure clearer for members without changing the actual procedure itself. In the previous Secretariat’s procedures manual the procedure was indeed the same. ****
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For this election I changed what Sarah mentioned and moved the date of the opening of the votes to the same date as the reception of ballots to avoid having members voting prior to the opening of the vote, as it happened in the last election. Thank you again for your feedback, Sarah. ****
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Regarding the closed nomination process, as Chris mentioned the Voting Officer is bound by the BC Charter (Section 8.2.3 – Special Rules for Elections) to not announce nominations until the close of the nomination period. Members nominating or being nominated are allowed to announce their nominations if they so wish. ****
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The actual process by which members submit their votes to bcvotes@hotmail.com is in place to allow access to the Verifying Officer and Returning Officer, and for records, but could be modified for members to submit their nominations directly to the BC list moving forward, if this is what members wish to do. ****
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As previously noted I will gather all of the submitted comments, modify the election procedure for future elections, and submit it to the Executive Committee for approval.****
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Thank you ever so much,****
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Kind Regards,****
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Benedetta Rossi****
BC Secretariat****
bc-secretariat@icann.org****
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home****
www.bizconst.org****
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*From:* owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *gabrielaszlak@gmail.com *Sent:* jeudi 17 octobre 2013 08:23 *To:* svg@stephanevangelder.com; Michael Castello *Cc:* Sarah Deutsch; Benedetta Rossi; bc - GNSO list
*Subject:* Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th****
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Dear all,
I also do not know why nominations are private and I agree with Stephane -and others who have supported his initial comment-, on a more open process.
I am happy to share I have been also nominated for the GNSO councilor position.
Regards, Gabi****
Enviado desde mi BlackBerry de Movistar (http://www.movistar.com.ar)**** ------------------------------
*From: *Stephane Van Gelder Consulting <svg@stephanevangelder.com> ****
*Sender: *owner-bc-gnso@icann.org ****
*Date: *Thu, 17 Oct 2013 08:09:00 +0200****
*To: *Michael Castello<michaelc@traveler.com>****
*ReplyTo: *svg@stephanevangelder.com ****
*Cc: *Deutsch, Sarah B<sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com>; svg@stephanevangelder.com<svg@stephanevangelder.com>; Benedetta Rossi< bc-secretariat@icann.org>; bc-gnso@icann.org<bc-gnso@icann.org>****
*Subject: *Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th****
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Thanks Michael,****
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Your gesture is much appreciated.****
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Best,****
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Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING
T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/****
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On 17 October 2013 05:02, Michael Castello <michaelc@traveler.com> wrote:* ***
Hello Sarah,
Since there is appears to be consensus on open nominations; I placed Phil Corwin in nomination for the GNSO seat.
Michael Castello CEO/President Castello Cities Internet Network, Inc. http://www.ccin.com michael@ccin.com
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Wednesday, October 16, 2013, 2:53:01 PM, you wrote:****
I agree. We’ve spent countless hours as a constituency trying to fix a series of practices that could reasonably be perceived inside and outside the BC as election irregularities. The entire notion of having “private nominations” is a vestige from our past closed practices.
As a reminder, some of the election issues we’ve recently had to address included: (1) advocating for an actual fair election vs. the appointment of the Nomcom seat; (2) debating whether the separate seats on the Nomcom for small and large business representatives were somehow interchangeable; and (3) recent issues notifying members about the opening of the elections and then informing members who voted right away that their ballots were received “too early” and needed to be resubmitted.
Can we all just agree that we should err on the side of openness with everything associated with BC elections? If there are differing points of view, perhaps we consult with ICANN staff about the best way to address this concern?
Thanks,
Sarah
Sarah B. Deutsch Vice President & Deputy General Counsel Verizon Communications Phone: 703-351-3044 Fax: 703-351-3670
*From:* owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Stephane Van Gelder Consulting *Sent:* Wednesday, October 16, 2013 4:40 PM *To:* Benedetta Rossi; bc-gnso@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th
Hi everyone,
I would like te reiterate that I find it very odd that as a group, we prefer to have private nominations.
If I am willing to support someone, I have no qualms about making that support public. Moreover, I find it troublesome that as a BC member, I do not know *until the nomination deadline has passed* whether someone has been nominated for a position or not.
I am left with having to try to read into a reminder message such as this one whether it is being sent two days before the deadline because there have been no nominations, or because it's just two days before the deadline.
And if I did know what nominations had been made, especially if none had been made, I might be spurred on to reach out to other potential candidates and try to get them on board. But with the current private nomination system, I just don't know.
Is there a historical reason for having private nominations? Do others feel, like I do, that it's time to put an end to the secrecy and to run fully transparent election processes?
Thanks,
Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING
T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/
On 16 October 2013 18:47, Benedetta Rossi <bc-secretariat@icann.org> wrote:
*From: BC Secretariat Date: October 16th, 2013 CC: Glen De Saint Gery, Returning Officer ,Robert Hoggarth, Verifying Officer*, *bcvotes@hotmail.com* <bcvotes@hotmail.com> *Re: BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business NomCom Seat Elections: Reminder – Nominations Close on Friday, Oct.18th
*Please note that this is the announcement for the BC elections for one of the two BC GNSO Councilor seats and the Small Business Seat on the Nominating Committee . *Please note that the nomination period will close on Friday, October 18th*. If you would like to submit a nomination, please follow the procedure outlined in the election procedure attached, and submit your nomination to the bcvotes@hotmail.com email address prior to Friday COB. Candidate statements should also be sent to the bcvotes@hotmail.com no later than Sunday, Oct. 20th. *Once again, please refer to the attachment for the full details regarding this election.
*Transmitted by the BC Secretariat: Benedetta Rossi, serving as Voting Officer
-- Kind Regards,
Benedetta Rossi BC Secretariat bc-secretariat@icann.org https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home www.bizconst.org
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Thank you Bene - I look forward to reviewing the revised procedures for the next election. Best, Elisa Sent from my iPhone On Oct 17, 2013, at 12:54 AM, "Benedetta Rossi" <bc-secretariat@icann.org<mailto:bc-secretariat@icann.org>> wrote: Dear BC Members, Thank you for your feedback regarding the election process, it is very helpful. I will compile all comments received and aggregate them in order to improve the election procedure as much as possible, and bring it to the Executive Committee for approval for the next election. The current election procedure was indeed approved by the Executive Committee prior to the opening of the election. In terms of historical procedures I can only speak from 2011 onwards, date I started working for the BC, and the procedure was very similar to the current one for elections, I just compiled the document making the procedure clearer for members without changing the actual procedure itself. In the previous Secretariat’s procedures manual the procedure was indeed the same. For this election I changed what Sarah mentioned and moved the date of the opening of the votes to the same date as the reception of ballots to avoid having members voting prior to the opening of the vote, as it happened in the last election. Thank you again for your feedback, Sarah. Regarding the closed nomination process, as Chris mentioned the Voting Officer is bound by the BC Charter (Section 8.2.3 – Special Rules for Elections) to not announce nominations until the close of the nomination period. Members nominating or being nominated are allowed to announce their nominations if they so wish. The actual process by which members submit their votes to bcvotes@hotmail.com<mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> is in place to allow access to the Verifying Officer and Returning Officer, and for records, but could be modified for members to submit their nominations directly to the BC list moving forward, if this is what members wish to do. As previously noted I will gather all of the submitted comments, modify the election procedure for future elections, and submit it to the Executive Committee for approval. Thank you ever so much, Kind Regards, Benedetta Rossi BC Secretariat bc-secretariat@icann.org https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home www.bizconst.org From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org> [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of gabrielaszlak@gmail.com<mailto:gabrielaszlak@gmail.com> Sent: jeudi 17 octobre 2013 08:23 To: svg@stephanevangelder.com<mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com>; Michael Castello Cc: Sarah Deutsch; Benedetta Rossi; bc - GNSO list Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th Dear all, I also do not know why nominations are private and I agree with Stephane -and others who have supported his initial comment-, on a more open process. I am happy to share I have been also nominated for the GNSO councilor position. Regards, Gabi Enviado desde mi BlackBerry de Movistar (http://www.movistar.com.ar) ________________________________ From: Stephane Van Gelder Consulting <svg@stephanevangelder.com<mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com>> Sender: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 08:09:00 +0200 To: Michael Castello<michaelc@traveler.com<mailto:michaelc@traveler.com>> ReplyTo: svg@stephanevangelder.com<mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com> Cc: Deutsch, Sarah B<sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com<mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com>>; svg@stephanevangelder.com<svg@stephanevangelder.com<mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com%3csvg@stephanevangelder.com>>; Benedetta Rossi<bc-secretariat@icann.org<mailto:bc-secretariat@icann.org>>; bc-gnso@icann.org<bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org%3cbc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th Thanks Michael, Your gesture is much appreciated. Best, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com<http://www.StephaneVanGelder.com> ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant<http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant> LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/<http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/> On 17 October 2013 05:02, Michael Castello <michaelc@traveler.com<mailto:michaelc@traveler.com>> wrote: Hello Sarah, Since there is appears to be consensus on open nominations; I placed Phil Corwin in nomination for the GNSO seat. Michael Castello CEO/President Castello Cities Internet Network, Inc. http://www.ccin.com michael@ccin.com<mailto:michael@ccin.com> -- Wednesday, October 16, 2013, 2:53:01 PM, you wrote: I agree. We’ve spent countless hours as a constituency trying to fix a series of practices that could reasonably be perceived inside and outside the BC as election irregularities. The entire notion of having “private nominations” is a vestige from our past closed practices. As a reminder, some of the election issues we’ve recently had to address included: (1) advocating for an actual fair election vs. the appointment of the Nomcom seat; (2) debating whether the separate seats on the Nomcom for small and large business representatives were somehow interchangeable; and (3) recent issues notifying members about the opening of the elections and then informing members who voted right away that their ballots were received “too early” and needed to be resubmitted. Can we all just agree that we should err on the side of openness with everything associated with BC elections? If there are differing points of view, perhaps we consult with ICANN staff about the best way to address this concern? Thanks, Sarah Sarah B. Deutsch Vice President & Deputy General Counsel Verizon Communications Phone: 703-351-3044 Fax: 703-351-3670 From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org> [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Stephane Van Gelder Consulting Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 4:40 PM To: Benedetta Rossi; bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th Hi everyone, I would like te reiterate that I find it very odd that as a group, we prefer to have private nominations. If I am willing to support someone, I have no qualms about making that support public. Moreover, I find it troublesome that as a BC member, I do not know until the nomination deadline has passed whether someone has been nominated for a position or not. I am left with having to try to read into a reminder message such as this one whether it is being sent two days before the deadline because there have been no nominations, or because it's just two days before the deadline. And if I did know what nominations had been made, especially if none had been made, I might be spurred on to reach out to other potential candidates and try to get them on board. But with the current private nomination system, I just don't know. Is there a historical reason for having private nominations? Do others feel, like I do, that it's time to put an end to the secrecy and to run fully transparent election processes? Thanks, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89<tel:%2B33%20%280%296%2020%2040%2055%2089> T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053<tel:%2B44%20%280%297583%20457053> Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com<http://www.StephaneVanGelder.com> ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant<http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant> LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/<http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/> On 16 October 2013 18:47, Benedetta Rossi <bc-secretariat@icann.org<mailto:bc-secretariat@icann.org>> wrote: From: BC Secretariat Date: October 16th, 2013 CC: Glen De Saint Gery, Returning Officer ,Robert Hoggarth, Verifying Officer, bcvotes@hotmail.com<mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> Re: BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business NomCom Seat Elections: Reminder – Nominations Close on Friday, Oct.18th Please note that this is the announcement for the BC elections for one of the two BC GNSO Councilor seats and the Small Business Seat on the Nominating Committee . Please note that the nomination period will close on Friday, October 18th. If you would like to submit a nomination, please follow the procedure outlined in the election procedure attached, and submit your nomination to the bcvotes@hotmail.com<mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> email address prior to Friday COB. Candidate statements should also be sent to the bcvotes@hotmail.com<mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> no later than Sunday, Oct. 20th. Once again, please refer to the attachment for the full details regarding this election. Transmitted by the BC Secretariat: Benedetta Rossi, serving as Voting Officer -- Kind Regards, Benedetta Rossi BC Secretariat bc-secretariat@icann.org<http://bc-secretariat@icann.org> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home www.bizconst.org<http://www.bizconst.org>
Dear colleagues, All of this discussion is timely as it falls directly into our Charter update so I, too, am happy to see the BC moving in the direction of bringing our practices inline with transparent processes. With that in mind, I would also like to share that I have been nominated for the small business seat on the 2014 Nom Com, and I have accepted. Kind regards, RA Ron Andruff RNA Partners <http://www.rnapartners.com> www.rnapartners.com From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of gabrielaszlak@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 02:23 To: svg@stephanevangelder.com; Michael Castello Cc: Sarah Deutsch; Benedetta Rossi; bc - GNSO list Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th Dear all, I also do not know why nominations are private and I agree with Stephane -and others who have supported his initial comment-, on a more open process. I am happy to share I have been also nominated for the GNSO councilor position. Regards, Gabi Enviado desde mi BlackBerry de Movistar ( <http://www.movistar.com.ar> http://www.movistar.com.ar) _____ From: Stephane Van Gelder Consulting < <mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com> svg@stephanevangelder.com> Sender: <mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org> owner-bc-gnso@icann.org Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 08:09:00 +0200 To: Michael Castello< <mailto:michaelc@traveler.com> michaelc@traveler.com> ReplyTo: <mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com> svg@stephanevangelder.com Cc: Deutsch, Sarah B< <mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com> sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com>; <mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com%3csvg@stephanevangelder.com> svg@stephanevangelder.com<svg@stephanevangelder.com>; Benedetta Rossi< <mailto:bc-secretariat@icann.org> bc-secretariat@icann.org>; <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org%3cbc-gnso@icann.org> bc-gnso@icann.org<bc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th Thanks Michael, Your gesture is much appreciated. Best, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 Skype: SVANGELDER <http://www.StephaneVanGelder.com> www.StephaneVanGelder.com ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant> www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant LinkedIn: <http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/> fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/ On 17 October 2013 05:02, Michael Castello < <mailto:michaelc@traveler.com> michaelc@traveler.com> wrote: Hello Sarah, Since there is appears to be consensus on open nominations; I placed Phil Corwin in nomination for the GNSO seat. Michael Castello CEO/President Castello Cities Internet Network, Inc. <http://www.ccin.com> http://www.ccin.com <mailto:michael@ccin.com> michael@ccin.com -- Wednesday, October 16, 2013, 2:53:01 PM, you wrote: I agree. Weve spent countless hours as a constituency trying to fix a series of practices that could reasonably be perceived inside and outside the BC as election irregularities. The entire notion of having private nominations is a vestige from our past closed practices. As a reminder, some of the election issues weve recently had to address included: (1) advocating for an actual fair election vs. the appointment of the Nomcom seat; (2) debating whether the separate seats on the Nomcom for small and large business representatives were somehow interchangeable; and (3) recent issues notifying members about the opening of the elections and then informing members who voted right away that their ballots were received too early and needed to be resubmitted. Can we all just agree that we should err on the side of openness with everything associated with BC elections? If there are differing points of view, perhaps we consult with ICANN staff about the best way to address this concern? Thanks, Sarah Sarah B. Deutsch Vice President & Deputy General Counsel Verizon Communications Phone: 703-351-3044 Fax: 703-351-3670 From: <mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org> owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto: <mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org> owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Stephane Van Gelder Consulting Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 4:40 PM To: Benedetta Rossi; <mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org> bc-gnso@icann.org Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th Hi everyone, I would like te reiterate that I find it very odd that as a group, we prefer to have private nominations. If I am willing to support someone, I have no qualms about making that support public. Moreover, I find it troublesome that as a BC member, I do not know until the nomination deadline has passed whether someone has been nominated for a position or not. I am left with having to try to read into a reminder message such as this one whether it is being sent two days before the deadline because there have been no nominations, or because it's just two days before the deadline. And if I did know what nominations had been made, especially if none had been made, I might be spurred on to reach out to other potential candidates and try to get them on board. But with the current private nomination system, I just don't know. Is there a historical reason for having private nominations? Do others feel, like I do, that it's time to put an end to the secrecy and to run fully transparent election processes? Thanks, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): <tel:%2B33%20%280%296%2020%2040%2055%2089> +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 T (UK): <tel:%2B44%20%280%297583%20457053> +44 (0)7583 457053 Skype: SVANGELDER <http://www.StephaneVanGelder.com> www.StephaneVanGelder.com ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant> www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant LinkedIn: <http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/> fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/ On 16 October 2013 18:47, Benedetta Rossi < <mailto:bc-secretariat@icann.org> bc-secretariat@icann.org> wrote: From: BC Secretariat Date: October 16th, 2013 CC: Glen De Saint Gery, Returning Officer ,Robert Hoggarth, Verifying Officer, <mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> bcvotes@hotmail.com Re: BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business NomCom Seat Elections: Reminder Nominations Close on Friday, Oct.18th Please note that this is the announcement for the BC elections for one of the two BC GNSO Councilor seats and the Small Business Seat on the Nominating Committee . Please note that the nomination period will close on Friday, October 18th. If you would like to submit a nomination, please follow the procedure outlined in the election procedure attached, and submit your nomination to the <mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> bcvotes@hotmail.com email address prior to Friday COB. Candidate statements should also be sent to the <mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> bcvotes@hotmail.com no later than Sunday, Oct. 20th. Once again, please refer to the attachment for the full details regarding this election. Transmitted by the BC Secretariat: Benedetta Rossi, serving as Voting Officer -- Kind Regards, Benedetta Rossi BC Secretariat <http://bc-secretariat@icann.org> bc-secretariat@icann.org <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home <http://www.bizconst.org> www.bizconst.org
Thanks Ron, much appreciated. Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/ On 17 October 2013 16:39, Ron Andruff <randruff@rnapartners.com> wrote:
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All of this discussion is timely as it falls directly into our Charter update so I, too, am happy to see the BC moving in the direction of bringing our practices inline with transparent processes.****
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With that in mind, I would also like to share that I have been nominated for the small business seat on the 2014 Nom Com, and I have accepted.****
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Kind regards,****
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*Ron Andruff*
*RNA Partners*
*www.rnapartners.com* <http://www.rnapartners.com>* *
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*From:* owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *gabrielaszlak@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 17, 2013 02:23 *To:* svg@stephanevangelder.com; Michael Castello
*Cc:* Sarah Deutsch; Benedetta Rossi; bc - GNSO list *Subject:* Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th****
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Dear all,
I also do not know why nominations are private and I agree with Stephane -and others who have supported his initial comment-, on a more open process.
I am happy to share I have been also nominated for the GNSO councilor position.
Regards, Gabi****
Enviado desde mi BlackBerry de Movistar (http://www.movistar.com.ar)**** ------------------------------
*From: *Stephane Van Gelder Consulting <svg@stephanevangelder.com> ****
*Sender: *owner-bc-gnso@icann.org ****
*Date: *Thu, 17 Oct 2013 08:09:00 +0200****
*To: *Michael Castello<michaelc@traveler.com>****
*ReplyTo: *svg@stephanevangelder.com ****
*Cc: *Deutsch, Sarah B<sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com>; svg@stephanevangelder.com<svg@stephanevangelder.com>; Benedetta Rossi< bc-secretariat@icann.org>; bc-gnso@icann.org<bc-gnso@icann.org>****
*Subject: *Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th****
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Thanks Michael,****
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Your gesture is much appreciated.****
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Best,****
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Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING
T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/****
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On 17 October 2013 05:02, Michael Castello <michaelc@traveler.com> wrote:* ***
Hello Sarah,
Since there is appears to be consensus on open nominations; I placed Phil Corwin in nomination for the GNSO seat.
Michael Castello CEO/President Castello Cities Internet Network, Inc. http://www.ccin.com michael@ccin.com
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Wednesday, October 16, 2013, 2:53:01 PM, you wrote:****
I agree. We’ve spent countless hours as a constituency trying to fix a series of practices that could reasonably be perceived inside and outside the BC as election irregularities. The entire notion of having “private nominations” is a vestige from our past closed practices.
As a reminder, some of the election issues we’ve recently had to address included: (1) advocating for an actual fair election vs. the appointment of the Nomcom seat; (2) debating whether the separate seats on the Nomcom for small and large business representatives were somehow interchangeable; and (3) recent issues notifying members about the opening of the elections and then informing members who voted right away that their ballots were received “too early” and needed to be resubmitted.
Can we all just agree that we should err on the side of openness with everything associated with BC elections? If there are differing points of view, perhaps we consult with ICANN staff about the best way to address this concern?
Thanks,
Sarah
Sarah B. Deutsch Vice President & Deputy General Counsel Verizon Communications Phone: 703-351-3044 Fax: 703-351-3670
*From:* owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Stephane Van Gelder Consulting *Sent:* Wednesday, October 16, 2013 4:40 PM *To:* Benedetta Rossi; bc-gnso@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th
Hi everyone,
I would like te reiterate that I find it very odd that as a group, we prefer to have private nominations.
If I am willing to support someone, I have no qualms about making that support public. Moreover, I find it troublesome that as a BC member, I do not know *until the nomination deadline has passed* whether someone has been nominated for a position or not.
I am left with having to try to read into a reminder message such as this one whether it is being sent two days before the deadline because there have been no nominations, or because it's just two days before the deadline.
And if I did know what nominations had been made, especially if none had been made, I might be spurred on to reach out to other potential candidates and try to get them on board. But with the current private nomination system, I just don't know.
Is there a historical reason for having private nominations? Do others feel, like I do, that it's time to put an end to the secrecy and to run fully transparent election processes?
Thanks,
Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING
T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/
On 16 October 2013 18:47, Benedetta Rossi <bc-secretariat@icann.org> wrote:
*From: BC Secretariat Date: October 16th, 2013 CC: Glen De Saint Gery, Returning Officer ,Robert Hoggarth, Verifying Officer*, *bcvotes@hotmail.com* <bcvotes@hotmail.com> *Re: BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business NomCom Seat Elections: Reminder – Nominations Close on Friday, Oct.18th
*Please note that this is the announcement for the BC elections for one of the two BC GNSO Councilor seats and the Small Business Seat on the Nominating Committee . *Please note that the nomination period will close on Friday, October 18th*. If you would like to submit a nomination, please follow the procedure outlined in the election procedure attached, and submit your nomination to the bcvotes@hotmail.com email address prior to Friday COB. Candidate statements should also be sent to the bcvotes@hotmail.com no later than Sunday, Oct. 20th. *Once again, please refer to the attachment for the full details regarding this election.
*Transmitted by the BC Secretariat: Benedetta Rossi, serving as Voting Officer
-- Kind Regards,
Benedetta Rossi BC Secretariat bc-secretariat@icann.org https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home www.bizconst.org
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I am with you on this Stephane. I am not aware of any historical basis for this, and I believe we used to have more open process. Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW Tel/Fax: +1.415.738.8087 <http://rodenbaugh.com> http://rodenbaugh.com From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Stephane Van Gelder Consulting Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 1:40 PM To: Benedetta Rossi; bc-gnso@icann.org Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th Hi everyone, I would like te reiterate that I find it very odd that as a group, we prefer to have private nominations. If I am willing to support someone, I have no qualms about making that support public. Moreover, I find it troublesome that as a BC member, I do not know until the nomination deadline has passed whether someone has been nominated for a position or not. I am left with having to try to read into a reminder message such as this one whether it is being sent two days before the deadline because there have been no nominations, or because it's just two days before the deadline. And if I did know what nominations had been made, especially if none had been made, I might be spurred on to reach out to other potential candidates and try to get them on board. But with the current private nomination system, I just don't know. Is there a historical reason for having private nominations? Do others feel, like I do, that it's time to put an end to the secrecy and to run fully transparent election processes? Thanks, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89 T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053 Skype: SVANGELDER www.StephaneVanGelder.com <http://www.StephaneVanGelder.com> ---------------- Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant <http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant> LinkedIn: fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/ <http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/> On 16 October 2013 18:47, Benedetta Rossi <bc-secretariat@icann.org <mailto:bc-secretariat@icann.org> > wrote: From: BC Secretariat Date: October 16th, 2013 CC: Glen De Saint Gery, Returning Officer ,Robert Hoggarth, Verifying Officer, bcvotes@hotmail.com <mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> Re: BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business NomCom Seat Elections: Reminder Nominations Close on Friday, Oct.18th Please note that this is the announcement for the BC elections for one of the two BC GNSO Councilor seats and the Small Business Seat on the Nominating Committee . Please note that the nomination period will close on Friday, October 18th. If you would like to submit a nomination, please follow the procedure outlined in the election procedure attached, and submit your nomination to the bcvotes@hotmail.com <mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> email address prior to Friday COB. Candidate statements should also be sent to the bcvotes@hotmail.com <mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com> no later than Sunday, Oct. 20th. Once again, please refer to the attachment for the full details regarding this election. Transmitted by the BC Secretariat: Benedetta Rossi, serving as Voting Officer -- Kind Regards, Benedetta Rossi BC Secretariat <http://bc-secretariat@icann.org> bc-secretariat@icann.org <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home www.bizconst.org <http://www.bizconst.org>
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Benedetta Rossi -
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Michael Castello -
Ron Andruff -
Stephane Van Gelder Consulting