for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI)
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Per discussion in Dakar and on our 10-Nov member call, here is a draft of BC comments on the a proposed alternative to the for Continuity Operations Instrument in the new gTLD Program. Jon Nevett prepared this draft. This comment period and docs are described here<https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/rysg-proposal-cof-17oct11-en.htm>. These comments are due 2-Dec, giving us 10 days for review and approval. This is less than the 14-day period required in our charter, so I am requesting an expedited review period. If any member has substantive objections to the expedited review, we can go to 14 days and submit our comments after the ICANN due date. All BC members are invited to suggest edits. Please use track changes and circulate to BC list. Thanks again to Jon for taking the lead on this. Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC
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i'm in. thanks all who worked on this draft. mikey On Nov 22, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Steve DelBianco wrote:
Per discussion in Dakar and on our 10-Nov member call, here is a draft of BC comments on the a proposed alternative to the for Continuity Operations Instrument in the new gTLD Program.
Jon Nevett prepared this draft.
This comment period and docs are described here.
These comments are due 2-Dec, giving us 10 days for review and approval. This is less than the 14-day period required in our charter, so I am requesting an expedited review period. If any member has substantive objections to the expedited review, we can go to 14 days and submit our comments after the ICANN due date.
All BC members are invited to suggest edits. Please use track changes and circulate to BC list.
Thanks again to Jon for taking the lead on this.
Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC <BC on COI proposal [draft 1].doc>
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Thanks to Steve and Jon for this first cut. It is a shame that time is so short because a considerable amount of work still needs to be done on this topic over the coming few days. I will bring some thoughts to this discussion in a later post, but thought that the excerpt that Steve linked out to would be a helpful start and have thus posted them below for member's consideration. Public comment is requested concerning the recently received from the proposal for Establishment of a Continued Operations Fund. This proposal comes from the Registries Stakeholder Group (RySG) and is accompanied by an addendum (Proposed Continuity Operations Instrument) produced by the Afilias and PIR, supported by some other registries, registry applicants and other interested parties. The RySG proposal offers an alternative approach to the existing Continuing Operations Instrument that is part of the New gTLD Program. Here are some questions that public comment respondents could consider regarding the RySG alternative proposal as well as the existing continuing instrument model offered by ICANN. 1. Considering ICANN's Mission, what is the appropriate role for ICANN to create a fund or act as an insurer? Under which circumstances? * Can the same end be accomplished through a third party? * Will an insurance company underwrite this? 2. The current COI model outlined on the Applicant Guidebook (see: http://newgtlds.icann.org/applicants/agb) is designed to provide some safeguards regardless of the number of gTLD registries that fail. For the existing COI model: * There will be an incentive to underestimate the projected size of the new registry, and therefore lower the cost of the COI to below what it should be to protect registrants. How could this be addressed? For the COF model: * Who should determine how much reserve must be set aside? * What criteria should be used to ensure sufficient funding and a mechanism to provide registrant protections? 2. In the estimates shown in the addendum (Proposed Continuity Operations Instrument), what are the assumptions can be made in creating the basis for the proposed fund? 3. How should the both the existing COI model and the newly proposed COF model ensure that it appropriately meets the needs of multiple registries sizes from small to large? 4. Will the allocation of costs need to be adjusted over time if new registries enter the pool after the target balance is achieved? How can this account for some level of predictability and fairness for all registries? 5. What appropriate level of internal resources should ICANN have for collections, tracking of deposits and outlays from the fund? 6. What are the foreseeable challenges to move funds in timely manner to various parties as required responding to emergency situations? One comment I would leave with you all is that it should be well-noted that ICANN already extracts USD 60,000 from each applicant as a risk fee without detailed explanation as to its use. Most applicants understand that this money will be used by ICANN legal to fight lawsuits that may arise from the new gTLD program, but find it an uncomfortable "tax" which will probably be used to fight battles that are not of their making. Food for thought. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff President RNA Partners, Inc. 220 Fifth Avenue New York, New York 10001 + 1 212 481 2820 ext. 11 _____ From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:06 PM To: 'bc-GNSO@icann.org GNSO list' Subject: [bc-gnso] for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Per discussion in Dakar and on our 10-Nov member call, here is a draft of BC comments on the a proposed alternative to the for Continuity Operations Instrument in the new gTLD Program. Jon Nevett prepared this draft. This comment period and docs are described here <https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/rysg-proposal-cof-17oct11-en.htm> . These comments are due 2-Dec, giving us 10 days for review and approval. This is less than the 14-day period required in our charter, so I am requesting an expedited review period. If any member has substantive objections to the expedited review, we can go to 14 days and submit our comments after the ICANN due date. All BC members are invited to suggest edits. Please use track changes and circulate to BC list. Thanks again to Jon for taking the lead on this. Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC
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I support Jon's draft 100%, thanks for the good work. Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1.415.738.8087 <http://rodenbaugh.com> http://rodenbaugh.com From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 4:06 PM To: 'bc-GNSO@icann.org GNSO list' Subject: [bc-gnso] for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Per discussion in Dakar and on our 10-Nov member call, here is a draft of BC comments on the a proposed alternative to the for Continuity Operations Instrument in the new gTLD Program. Jon Nevett prepared this draft. This comment period and docs are described here <https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/rysg-proposal-cof-17oct11-en.htm> . These comments are due 2-Dec, giving us 10 days for review and approval. This is less than the 14-day period required in our charter, so I am requesting an expedited review period. If any member has substantive objections to the expedited review, we can go to 14 days and submit our comments after the ICANN due date. All BC members are invited to suggest edits. Please use track changes and circulate to BC list. Thanks again to Jon for taking the lead on this. Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC
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I support Jon's draft, thanks for the good work. Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1.415.738.8087 http://rodenbaugh.com From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 4:06 PM To: 'bc-GNSO@icann.org GNSO list' Subject: [bc-gnso] for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Per discussion in Dakar and on our 10-Nov member call, here is a draft of BC comments on the a proposed alternative to the for Continuity Operations Instrument in the new gTLD Program. Jon Nevett prepared this draft. This comment period and docs are described here <https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/rysg-proposal-cof-17oct11-en.htm> . These comments are due 2-Dec, giving us 10 days for review and approval. This is less than the 14-day period required in our charter, so I am requesting an expedited review period. If any member has substantive objections to the expedited review, we can go to 14 days and submit our comments after the ICANN due date. All BC members are invited to suggest edits. Please use track changes and circulate to BC list. Thanks again to Jon for taking the lead on this. Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC
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Hello All, I have not commented on this document for a couple of reasons. One I am actively working with a number of clients in connection with new gTLDs and two I have volunteered to help the registry constituency with their efforts to submit a comment on this subject matter. My concern however, is that many of the active members in preparing this BC document appear to be individuals directly/indirectly associated with new gTLD applicants. Therefore, in advance I am stating my intention to abstain on any BC vote, and I ask that in the interest of openness and transparency that we document in any final submission those BC members that are directly/indirectly involved in any new gTLD applications and their role in formulating/approving this document. I think the BC has raised a number of concerns regarding the appearance of conflict at the ICANN Board level, and I think we need to lead by example. Just my two cents. Best regards, Michael From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of icann@rodenbaugh.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:08 AM To: 'bc-GNSO@icann.org GNSO list' Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) I support Jon's draft, thanks for the good work. Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1.415.738.8087 http://rodenbaugh.com From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 4:06 PM To: 'bc-GNSO@icann.org GNSO list' Subject: [bc-gnso] for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Per discussion in Dakar and on our 10-Nov member call, here is a draft of BC comments on the a proposed alternative to the for Continuity Operations Instrument in the new gTLD Program. Jon Nevett prepared this draft. This comment period and docs are described here <https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/rysg-proposal-cof-17oct11-en.htm> . These comments are due 2-Dec, giving us 10 days for review and approval. This is less than the 14-day period required in our charter, so I am requesting an expedited review period. If any member has substantive objections to the expedited review, we can go to 14 days and submit our comments after the ICANN due date. All BC members are invited to suggest edits. Please use track changes and circulate to BC list. Thanks again to Jon for taking the lead on this. Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC
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Mike: Just a couple of points. As one of the few BC members at the workshop in Dakar on this issue, Steve asked me if I would amalgamate the comments on the issue made on the list and those made by BC members during the session, which I did. We only make six points in the proposed comments. I do note that three of the six points that we have in the draft came from your comments to the list regarding the RySG proposal. You raise a very challenging issue related to the BC and those of us members who are affiliated with or supporting an entity participating in the New TLD process. I suggest that we take that issue up at an upcoming call or meeting. It will be interesting to see how many BC members organizations do, in fact, participate. One benefit of transparency is to get a diversity of viewpoints with an understanding of where such viewpoints emanate. Of course, we should not use transparency and accountability principles as a sword to stifle speech and alternative views. Those are my $.02. Thanks. Jon On Nov 30, 2011, at 4:00 AM, Michael D. Palage wrote:
Hello All,
I have not commented on this document for a couple of reasons. One I am actively working with a number of clients in connection with new gTLDs and two I have volunteered to help the registry constituency with their efforts to submit a comment on this subject matter.
My concern however, is that many of the active members in preparing this BC document appear to be individuals directly/indirectly associated with new gTLD applicants. Therefore, in advance I am stating my intention to abstain on any BC vote, and I ask that in the interest of openness and transparency that we document in any final submission those BC members that are directly/indirectly involved in any new gTLD applications and their role in formulating/approving this document.
I think the BC has raised a number of concerns regarding the appearance of conflict at the ICANN Board level, and I think we need to lead by example.
Just my two cents.
Best regards,
Michael
From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of icann@rodenbaugh.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:08 AM To: 'bc-GNSO@icann.org GNSO list' Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI)
I support Jon’s draft, thanks for the good work.
Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1.415.738.8087 http://rodenbaugh.com
From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 4:06 PM To: 'bc-GNSO@icann.org GNSO list' Subject: [bc-gnso] for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI)
Per discussion in Dakar and on our 10-Nov member call, here is a draft of BC comments on the a proposed alternative to the for Continuity Operations Instrument in the new gTLD Program.
Jon Nevett prepared this draft.
This comment period and docs are described here.
These comments are due 2-Dec, giving us 10 days for review and approval. This is less than the 14-day period required in our charter, so I am requesting an expedited review period. If any member has substantive objections to the expedited review, we can go to 14 days and submit our comments after the ICANN due date.
All BC members are invited to suggest edits. Please use track changes and circulate to BC list.
Thanks again to Jon for taking the lead on this.
Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC
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John, First let me thank you for undertaking this task on behalf of the BC. My intention is not to use openness and transparency as a sword, but as a shield. I just think at this point in time with the threat of more pending lawsuits on the horizon we do ICANN, your stakeholder group, and the new gTLD process a favor by exercising more disclosure not less. In your capacity as an observer in the registry constituency you have seen how each member that votes or does not vote on an issues is documented. While I think you and I bring an incredible SMB business perspective to this group and while individual BC members trust our ability to do the right thing, we need to realize that ICANN's action are being analyzed under a microscope by some third parties that will not be giving us that benefit of the doubt and why we need to go above and beyond. Thanks again for your effort, and I apologize if there was any misunderstanding regarding my initial concerns. Best regards, Michael From: Jon Nevett [mailto:jon@nevett.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 1:53 PM To: Michael D. Palage Cc: 'bc-GNSO@icann.org GNSO list' Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Mike: Just a couple of points. As one of the few BC members at the workshop in Dakar on this issue, Steve asked me if I would amalgamate the comments on the issue made on the list and those made by BC members during the session, which I did. We only make six points in the proposed comments. I do note that three of the six points that we have in the draft came from your comments to the list regarding the RySG proposal. You raise a very challenging issue related to the BC and those of us members who are affiliated with or supporting an entity participating in the New TLD process. I suggest that we take that issue up at an upcoming call or meeting. It will be interesting to see how many BC members organizations do, in fact, participate. One benefit of transparency is to get a diversity of viewpoints with an understanding of where such viewpoints emanate. Of course, we should not use transparency and accountability principles as a sword to stifle speech and alternative views. Those are my $.02. Thanks. Jon On Nov 30, 2011, at 4:00 AM, Michael D. Palage wrote: Hello All, I have not commented on this document for a couple of reasons. One I am actively working with a number of clients in connection with new gTLDs and two I have volunteered to help the registry constituency with their efforts to submit a comment on this subject matter. My concern however, is that many of the active members in preparing this BC document appear to be individuals directly/indirectly associated with new gTLD applicants. Therefore, in advance I am stating my intention to abstain on any BC vote, and I ask that in the interest of openness and transparency that we document in any final submission those BC members that are directly/indirectly involved in any new gTLD applications and their role in formulating/approving this document. I think the BC has raised a number of concerns regarding the appearance of conflict at the ICANN Board level, and I think we need to lead by example. Just my two cents. Best regards, Michael From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of icann@rodenbaugh.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:08 AM To: 'bc-GNSO@icann.org GNSO list' Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) I support Jon's draft, thanks for the good work. Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1.415.738.8087 http://rodenbaugh.com From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 4:06 PM To: 'bc-GNSO@icann.org GNSO list' Subject: [bc-gnso] for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Per discussion in Dakar and on our 10-Nov member call, here is a draft of BC comments on the a proposed alternative to the for Continuity Operations Instrument in the new gTLD Program. Jon Nevett prepared this draft. This comment period and docs are described here <https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/rysg-proposal-cof-17oct11-en.htm> . These comments are due 2-Dec, giving us 10 days for review and approval. This is less than the 14-day period required in our charter, so I am requesting an expedited review period. If any member has substantive objections to the expedited review, we can go to 14 days and submit our comments after the ICANN due date. All BC members are invited to suggest edits. Please use track changes and circulate to BC list. Thanks again to Jon for taking the lead on this. Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC
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Thanks to all for engaging in the email discussion over these comments. However, I don't think we've seen any specific edits on the draft circulated last Tuesday 22-Nov. Ron and Phil proposed a more extensive critique of the Guidebook's COI plan, but the scope of this comment is reacting to the Registry proposal for an alternative mechanism (COF). I would strongly suggest that Ron and Phil individually submit their concerns to ICANN, of course. Mike Palage advised us to be careful about conflicts of interest, so I propose a simple way to do this quickly and transparently: If any BC member objects to the BC filing the attached draft comment , please REPLY ALL and indicate your objection and reason. If any member objections are noted by midnight UTC on 1-Dec, we will extend the process and ask the membership to vote on alternate versions of BC comments. This would mean our comments are submitted late, but might still be considered. If no objections are noted we will post the attached draft to ICANN on the closing date of 2-Dec. Thanks again for engaging in this discussion. --Steve (vice chair for policy coordination) From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org<mailto:sdelbianco@actonline.org>> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:04:17 -0500 To: "'bc-GNSO@icann.org<mailto:'bc-GNSO@icann.org> GNSO list'" <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Per discussion in Dakar and on our 10-Nov member call, here is a draft of BC comments on the a proposed alternative to the for Continuity Operations Instrument in the new gTLD Program. Jon Nevett prepared this draft. This comment period and docs are described here<https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/rysg-proposal-cof-17oct11-en.htm>. These comments are due 2-Dec, giving us 10 days for review and approval. This is less than the 14-day period required in our charter, so I am requesting an expedited review period. If any member has substantive objections to the expedited review, we can go to 14 days and submit our comments after the ICANN due date. All BC members are invited to suggest edits. Please use track changes and circulate to BC list. Thanks again to Jon for taking the lead on this. Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC
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Last night, Marilyn Cade submitted extensive edits to our draft comments on the Continuity of Operations Fund proposal from the Registries. See second attachment and Marilyn's summary of her comments below. Per the plan I sent this week, we will now allow 7 additional days of review time, with a target date to submit by next Friday 9-Dec. That would make us just one week late for ICANN's comment deadline. Rapporteur Jon Nevett will take first look at Marilyn's edits and will circulate a new version over the weekend. From: marilynscade@hotmail.com<mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com> To: bcprivate@icann.org<mailto:bcprivate@icann.org> Subject: IMPORTANT: SEE PROPOSED CHANGES/EDITS IN THE BC DRAFT: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:49:10 -0500 I propose several changes and an enhancement about why the BC cares about this topic, and also note that we would like similar opportunity to achieve changes in the new gTLD program -- regarding IPR protections. I will send a separate email about that topic, based on discussions with Steve, Sarah, and others about the existing call for improvements in that area. [Separate email]. My comments are as an individual member of the BC on this BC position statement. The changes I propose to this draft are consistent with BC's positions regarding priority of protecting registrants and users. See 2, where I added ICANN's responsibiilty to act in the public interest. 3. I explicitly stated that we do not support the Regy proposal. That was missing from our statement. I also said that improvements could be made in the COI. See 4. 5. I also added in that the BC fears a high risk of failure of some of the new gTLDs. 6. I added that we expect there to be appropriate legal agreements in the contracts that would allow for the protection of registered names. I deleted the old 7, which seemed to say on the one hand, and then on the other hand. The purpose of this statement is to either support the Registry proposal, or oppose it. I oppose it, for the reasons I noted in my edits. I do think that COI can be improved, especially as it regards 'brands' gTLDs. I was also concerned in reading the transcript of the actual panel in Dakar -- I was not able to attend in person -- the panel looked heavily stacked toward supporters of the new gTLD program. However, the important news may be that if ICANN will accept suggested changes form a single constituency, we should be aggressively be addressing our call for changes in Trademark protection. Marilyn Cade From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org<mailto:sdelbianco@actonline.org>> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:29:48 -0500 To: 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: FW: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Thanks to all for engaging in the email discussion over these comments. However, I don't think we've seen any specific edits on the draft circulated last Tuesday 22-Nov. Ron and Phil proposed a more extensive critique of the Guidebook's COI plan, but the scope of this comment is reacting to the Registry proposal for an alternative mechanism (COF). I would strongly suggest that Ron and Phil individually submit their concerns to ICANN, of course. Mike Palage advised us to be careful about conflicts of interest, so I propose a simple way to do this quickly and transparently: If any BC member objects to the BC filing the attached draft comment , please REPLY ALL and indicate your objection and reason. If any member objections are noted by midnight UTC on 1-Dec, we will extend the process and ask the membership to vote on alternate versions of BC comments. This would mean our comments are submitted late, but might still be considered. If no objections are noted we will post the attached draft to ICANN on the closing date of 2-Dec. Thanks again for engaging in this discussion. --Steve (vice chair for policy coordination) From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org<mailto:sdelbianco@actonline.org>> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:04:17 -0500 To: "'bc-GNSO@icann.org<mailto:'bc-GNSO@icann.org> GNSO list'" <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Per discussion in Dakar and on our 10-Nov member call, here is a draft of BC comments on the a proposed alternative to the for Continuity Operations Instrument in the new gTLD Program. Jon Nevett prepared this draft. This comment period and docs are described here<https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/rysg-proposal-cof-17oct11-en.htm>. These comments are due 2-Dec, giving us 10 days for review and approval. This is less than the 14-day period required in our charter, so I am requesting an expedited review period. If any member has substantive objections to the expedited review, we can go to 14 days and submit our comments after the ICANN due date. All BC members are invited to suggest edits. Please use track changes and circulate to BC list. Thanks again to Jon for taking the lead on this. Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC
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I have no objection to the proposed draft insofar as it relates to COI. However, I think there is a bigger process question - are we, the BC, for or against various constituencies being able to reopen aspects of the new gTLD program at this point in time, between approval in Singapore and opening of the application window? There is a big difference between focusing in on implementation details (as is being done within the IAG on the TM Clearinghouse) and proposing significant substantive changes to the Applicant Guidebook and registry contract requirements, such as what the Regy Constituency has done by proposing a COF to substitute for the COI. This continued operational churning of the new gTLD program (as well as the political churning we are likely to see at this coming week's Senate hearing) create nothing but uncertainty for potential applicants being asked to risk significant amounts of capital to enter into a process that may not provide them with an answer for years. But, back to my main point, is the BC against reopening the process at this time or are we saying that since the Regy has opened Pandora's box we feel empowered to do so as well? While ICANN has stated that improvements in the requirements will be made as the program develops, there has been zero experience with new gTLDs to justify further tinkering at this point in time. In that regard, I take note of this proposed portion of the new BC position - The BC further has identified several inadequacies in the protection and safeguards for existing registrants, and users, and will submit, again, a request for improvements and changes in the trademark protection mechanisms, before the launch of the new gTLD Program. Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall any discussion among BC members to take such action. If those proposed "improvements" include lowering the burden of proof for a URS complaint and allowing transfer of the domain to the complainant at the end of its registration period, making URS the functional equivalent of UDRP, I will be objecting at every step in the process -- especially since NAF and WIPO have said that there is no way they can do a URS at the proposed pricing of $300 (for complaints covering multiple domain names), and Kurt Pritz concede in Dakar that ICANN was having difficulty finding qualified arbitrators and would have to revisit that. But the broader point is that you can only implement a settled Guidebook, not a moving target, and that new gTLD applicants deserve some program certainty at this critical juncture. Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:45 PM To: 'Bc GNSO list ' Subject: [bc-gnso] FW: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Last night, Marilyn Cade submitted extensive edits to our draft comments on the Continuity of Operations Fund proposal from the Registries. See second attachment and Marilyn's summary of her comments below. Per the plan I sent this week, we will now allow 7 additional days of review time, with a target date to submit by next Friday 9-Dec. That would make us just one week late for ICANN's comment deadline. Rapporteur Jon Nevett will take first look at Marilyn's edits and will circulate a new version over the weekend. From: marilynscade@hotmail.com<mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com> To: bcprivate@icann.org<mailto:bcprivate@icann.org> Subject: IMPORTANT: SEE PROPOSED CHANGES/EDITS IN THE BC DRAFT: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:49:10 -0500 I propose several changes and an enhancement about why the BC cares about this topic, and also note that we would like similar opportunity to achieve changes in the new gTLD program -- regarding IPR protections. I will send a separate email about that topic, based on discussions with Steve, Sarah, and others about the existing call for improvements in that area. [Separate email]. My comments are as an individual member of the BC on this BC position statement. The changes I propose to this draft are consistent with BC's positions regarding priority of protecting registrants and users. See 2, where I added ICANN's responsibiilty to act in the public interest. 3. I explicitly stated that we do not support the Regy proposal. That was missing from our statement. I also said that improvements could be made in the COI. See 4. 5. I also added in that the BC fears a high risk of failure of some of the new gTLDs. 6. I added that we expect there to be appropriate legal agreements in the contracts that would allow for the protection of registered names. I deleted the old 7, which seemed to say on the one hand, and then on the other hand. The purpose of this statement is to either support the Registry proposal, or oppose it. I oppose it, for the reasons I noted in my edits. I do think that COI can be improved, especially as it regards 'brands' gTLDs. I was also concerned in reading the transcript of the actual panel in Dakar -- I was not able to attend in person -- the panel looked heavily stacked toward supporters of the new gTLD program. However, the important news may be that if ICANN will accept suggested changes form a single constituency, we should be aggressively be addressing our call for changes in Trademark protection. Marilyn Cade From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org<mailto:sdelbianco@actonline.org>> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:29:48 -0500 To: 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: FW: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Thanks to all for engaging in the email discussion over these comments. However, I don't think we've seen any specific edits on the draft circulated last Tuesday 22-Nov. Ron and Phil proposed a more extensive critique of the Guidebook's COI plan, but the scope of this comment is reacting to the Registry proposal for an alternative mechanism (COF). I would strongly suggest that Ron and Phil individually submit their concerns to ICANN, of course. Mike Palage advised us to be careful about conflicts of interest, so I propose a simple way to do this quickly and transparently: If any BC member objects to the BC filing the attached draft comment , please REPLY ALL and indicate your objection and reason. If any member objections are noted by midnight UTC on 1-Dec, we will extend the process and ask the membership to vote on alternate versions of BC comments. This would mean our comments are submitted late, but might still be considered. If no objections are noted we will post the attached draft to ICANN on the closing date of 2-Dec. Thanks again for engaging in this discussion. --Steve (vice chair for policy coordination) From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org<mailto:sdelbianco@actonline.org>> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:04:17 -0500 To: "'bc-GNSO@icann.org<mailto:'bc-GNSO@icann.org> GNSO list'" <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Per discussion in Dakar and on our 10-Nov member call, here is a draft of BC comments on the a proposed alternative to the for Continuity Operations Instrument in the new gTLD Program. Jon Nevett prepared this draft. This comment period and docs are described here<https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/rysg-proposal-cof-17oct11-en.htm>. These comments are due 2-Dec, giving us 10 days for review and approval. This is less than the 14-day period required in our charter, so I am requesting an expedited review period. If any member has substantive objections to the expedited review, we can go to 14 days and submit our comments after the ICANN due date. All BC members are invited to suggest edits. Please use track changes and circulate to BC list. Thanks again to Jon for taking the lead on this. Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com> Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2102/4052 - Release Date: 12/02/11
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Rapporteur Jon Nevett incorporated Marilyn's edits into the attached DRAFT 2. I also adjusted the opening section to address a concern expressed by Phil Corwin today: The BC notes this new approach to considering potential improvements in implementation details for the new gTLD Program and provides comments on this topic. Also attached is a redline comparing draft 1 and 2. If any BC member objects to the BC filing this Draft 2 comment , please REPLY ALL and explain your objections. If any member objections are noted by midnight UTC on 7-Dec, we will ask the membership to vote on the comments. If no objections are noted, we will post the attached draft to ICANN on 9-Dec. Thanks to Marilyn and Jon for their work on these comments. From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org<mailto:sdelbianco@actonline.org>> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 22:43:19 -0500 To: 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: FW: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Last night, Marilyn Cade submitted extensive edits to our draft comments on the Continuity of Operations Fund proposal from the Registries. See second attachment and Marilyn's summary of her comments below. Per the plan I sent this week, we will now allow 7 additional days of review time, with a target date to submit by next Friday 9-Dec. That would make us just one week late for ICANN's comment deadline. Rapporteur Jon Nevett will take first look at Marilyn's edits and will circulate a new version over the weekend. From: marilynscade@hotmail.com<mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com> To: bcprivate@icann.org<mailto:bcprivate@icann.org> Subject: IMPORTANT: SEE PROPOSED CHANGES/EDITS IN THE BC DRAFT: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:49:10 -0500 I propose several changes and an enhancement about why the BC cares about this topic, and also note that we would like similar opportunity to achieve changes in the new gTLD program -- regarding IPR protections. I will send a separate email about that topic, based on discussions with Steve, Sarah, and others about the existing call for improvements in that area. [Separate email]. My comments are as an individual member of the BC on this BC position statement. The changes I propose to this draft are consistent with BC's positions regarding priority of protecting registrants and users. See 2, where I added ICANN's responsibiilty to act in the public interest. 3. I explicitly stated that we do not support the Regy proposal. That was missing from our statement. I also said that improvements could be made in the COI. See 4. 5. I also added in that the BC fears a high risk of failure of some of the new gTLDs. 6. I added that we expect there to be appropriate legal agreements in the contracts that would allow for the protection of registered names. I deleted the old 7, which seemed to say on the one hand, and then on the other hand. The purpose of this statement is to either support the Registry proposal, or oppose it. I oppose it, for the reasons I noted in my edits. I do think that COI can be improved, especially as it regards 'brands' gTLDs. I was also concerned in reading the transcript of the actual panel in Dakar -- I was not able to attend in person -- the panel looked heavily stacked toward supporters of the new gTLD program. However, the important news may be that if ICANN will accept suggested changes form a single constituency, we should be aggressively be addressing our call for changes in Trademark protection. Marilyn Cade From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org<mailto:sdelbianco@actonline.org>> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:29:48 -0500 To: 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: FW: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Thanks to all for engaging in the email discussion over these comments. However, I don't think we've seen any specific edits on the draft circulated last Tuesday 22-Nov. Ron and Phil proposed a more extensive critique of the Guidebook's COI plan, but the scope of this comment is reacting to the Registry proposal for an alternative mechanism (COF). I would strongly suggest that Ron and Phil individually submit their concerns to ICANN, of course. Mike Palage advised us to be careful about conflicts of interest, so I propose a simple way to do this quickly and transparently: If any BC member objects to the BC filing the attached draft comment , please REPLY ALL and indicate your objection and reason. If any member objections are noted by midnight UTC on 1-Dec, we will extend the process and ask the membership to vote on alternate versions of BC comments. This would mean our comments are submitted late, but might still be considered. If no objections are noted we will post the attached draft to ICANN on the closing date of 2-Dec. Thanks again for engaging in this discussion. --Steve (vice chair for policy coordination) From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org<mailto:sdelbianco@actonline.org>> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:04:17 -0500 To: "'bc-GNSO@icann.org<mailto:'bc-GNSO@icann.org> GNSO list'" <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Per discussion in Dakar and on our 10-Nov member call, here is a draft of BC comments on the a proposed alternative to the for Continuity Operations Instrument in the new gTLD Program. Jon Nevett prepared this draft. This comment period and docs are described here<https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/rysg-proposal-cof-17oct11-en.htm>. These comments are due 2-Dec, giving us 10 days for review and approval. This is less than the 14-day period required in our charter, so I am requesting an expedited review period. If any member has substantive objections to the expedited review, we can go to 14 days and submit our comments after the ICANN due date. All BC members are invited to suggest edits. Please use track changes and circulate to BC list. Thanks again to Jon for taking the lead on this. Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC
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Steve: I believe that this document is much improved and have no objection to it. In particular, I appreciate the fact that the document no longer states that the BC plans to file a letter advocating additional changes to the new gTLD program's trademark protection requirements - a subject that will first be discussed among BC members in the upcoming conference call scheduled for Friday, December 9. However, I would like to propose that the comment be strengthened. In that regard, I would propose that the sentence in point #2 that presently reads "We are not supportive of the approach presented by the Registry Constituency. " should be altered to state "We oppose the approach presented by the Registry Constituency". I am also concerned by the last sentence in the first paragraph of the background section - "The BC notes this new approach to considering potential improvements in implementation details for the new gTLD Program and provides comments on this topic." This seems to concede that the Registry Constituency's COF proposal is a mere implementation detail when, in fact, I believe it would be a significant substantive change in the new gTLD program that goes far beyond an implementation detail. The Registry Constituency was well aware of the COI requirement before the Board approved the new gTLD program in Singapore, and if registries had significant concerns with it they should gave raised them before the Board vote rather than urging a "yes" vote on the AG then before the Board. I would propose that the sentence be changed to reflect a BC position that COF is far more than an implementation detail and is not properly on the table at all. As previously stated, I have significant doubts about ICANN's ability to effectively implement a COF approach because other industry-wide shared risk insurance pools -- such as, in the U.S., the FCIC, SIPC, and state insurance funds - require a supportive structure of pervasive regulation to ameliorate the moral hazard that inevitably arises when an industry participant can shift the consequences of its risk-taking to others. I do not believe it would be proper for ICANN to assume such a role - nor am I confident it could successfully undertake it, given continuing concerns regarding its ability to effectively enforce its bilateral contracts with registries. Also, as the BC statement notes, a COI offers substantially greater prospects for registrant protection in the event of a registry failure. But the issue is much larger than whether the COF proposal has merit. The issue is whether it is properly on the table at all - the issue, in fact, is what should be the proper means going forward to consider significant substantive changes in the new gTLD program (as distinct from addressing implementation details of the current requirements reflected in the Applicant Guidebook and standard registry contract). Here's my problem - we constantly refer to and support ICANN's multi-stakeholder policy-making process - but the word "process" implies a standard undertaking with a beginning, middle, and end, at the end of which things are settled for at least some reasonable amount of time. If ICANN had never been spun out of the Commerce Department it would be a government agency and its rulemaking process would be under the Administrative Procedures Act. The APA provides a well-understood process - there is an advance notice of proposed rulemaking which solicits initial comments, then there is promulgation of a proposed rule which solicits further comments, then there may even be one or two more publications of an altered rule reflecting the comments received (and along the way there may have been one or more public hearings to solicit oral input) - but in the end there is a Final Rule and it is really final, and the grounds for judicial challenge of that Rule are well understood and quite narrow. Now it may be proper for the ICANN process to be more flexible than that - but in the end it should produce a result with a reasonable degree of finality. We all have concerns about various aspects of the final Applicant Guidebook, even though the process of developing it took three years and at various points had a make-it-up-as-you-go-along procedural quality . But if any constituency can propose major changes to the AG just months after its adoption by the Board - and COF, again, appears to be a major substantive departure from COI, not a mere implementation detail - then the ICANN process is never final at all, nothing is ever settled for even a brief interval. That is really no process at all because it provides no reliable finality. And that in turn, in my opinion, raises further questions about ICANN's overall credibility as an organization. There's also a need to move on from the new gTLD program (aside from monitoring its launch and fleshing out details of its implementation) and engage on to the many other substantive issues challenging ICANN. If the Registries can advocate COF, and if any other Constituency can also propose major substantive changes in the program, then we are going to be back into the same disputes that were the focus of discussion of three years and that will be a major distraction from other pressing issues. Each of us has only so much personal bandwidth to devote to ICANN policy matters. To make clear, I have no problem with further refining the COI, such as considering lower financial commitments based on registry type or experience, as these seem to be legitimate implementation details. Summing up, I propose that: * The BC change its position on COF from "Not supportive of" to "opposes". * The BC take the position that COF is a significant AG substantive change and proposed replacement for COI, and therefore not an implementation detail of COI. * The BC engage in a constituency discussion of when and under what procedures significant substantive changes in the new gTLD program - as opposed to mere implementation of the program as approved by the Board - can properly be put on the table for consideration, as well as what the process and standard should be for considering and incorporating them. Regards to all, Philip Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 5:29 PM To: 'Bc GNSO list ' Subject: [bc-gnso] Re: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Rapporteur Jon Nevett incorporated Marilyn's edits into the attached DRAFT 2. I also adjusted the opening section to address a concern expressed by Phil Corwin today: The BC notes this new approach to considering potential improvements in implementation details for the new gTLD Program and provides comments on this topic. Also attached is a redline comparing draft 1 and 2. If any BC member objects to the BC filing this Draft 2 comment , please REPLY ALL and explain your objections. If any member objections are noted by midnight UTC on 7-Dec, we will ask the membership to vote on the comments. If no objections are noted, we will post the attached draft to ICANN on 9-Dec. Thanks to Marilyn and Jon for their work on these comments. From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org<mailto:sdelbianco@actonline.org>> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 22:43:19 -0500 To: 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: FW: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Last night, Marilyn Cade submitted extensive edits to our draft comments on the Continuity of Operations Fund proposal from the Registries. See second attachment and Marilyn's summary of her comments below. Per the plan I sent this week, we will now allow 7 additional days of review time, with a target date to submit by next Friday 9-Dec. That would make us just one week late for ICANN's comment deadline. Rapporteur Jon Nevett will take first look at Marilyn's edits and will circulate a new version over the weekend. From: marilynscade@hotmail.com<mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com> To: bcprivate@icann.org<mailto:bcprivate@icann.org> Subject: IMPORTANT: SEE PROPOSED CHANGES/EDITS IN THE BC DRAFT: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:49:10 -0500 I propose several changes and an enhancement about why the BC cares about this topic, and also note that we would like similar opportunity to achieve changes in the new gTLD program -- regarding IPR protections. I will send a separate email about that topic, based on discussions with Steve, Sarah, and others about the existing call for improvements in that area. [Separate email]. My comments are as an individual member of the BC on this BC position statement. The changes I propose to this draft are consistent with BC's positions regarding priority of protecting registrants and users. See 2, where I added ICANN's responsibiilty to act in the public interest. 3. I explicitly stated that we do not support the Regy proposal. That was missing from our statement. I also said that improvements could be made in the COI. See 4. 5. I also added in that the BC fears a high risk of failure of some of the new gTLDs. 6. I added that we expect there to be appropriate legal agreements in the contracts that would allow for the protection of registered names. I deleted the old 7, which seemed to say on the one hand, and then on the other hand. The purpose of this statement is to either support the Registry proposal, or oppose it. I oppose it, for the reasons I noted in my edits. I do think that COI can be improved, especially as it regards 'brands' gTLDs. I was also concerned in reading the transcript of the actual panel in Dakar -- I was not able to attend in person -- the panel looked heavily stacked toward supporters of the new gTLD program. However, the important news may be that if ICANN will accept suggested changes form a single constituency, we should be aggressively be addressing our call for changes in Trademark protection. Marilyn Cade From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org<mailto:sdelbianco@actonline.org>> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:29:48 -0500 To: 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: FW: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Thanks to all for engaging in the email discussion over these comments. However, I don't think we've seen any specific edits on the draft circulated last Tuesday 22-Nov. Ron and Phil proposed a more extensive critique of the Guidebook's COI plan, but the scope of this comment is reacting to the Registry proposal for an alternative mechanism (COF). I would strongly suggest that Ron and Phil individually submit their concerns to ICANN, of course. Mike Palage advised us to be careful about conflicts of interest, so I propose a simple way to do this quickly and transparently: If any BC member objects to the BC filing the attached draft comment , please REPLY ALL and indicate your objection and reason. If any member objections are noted by midnight UTC on 1-Dec, we will extend the process and ask the membership to vote on alternate versions of BC comments. This would mean our comments are submitted late, but might still be considered. If no objections are noted we will post the attached draft to ICANN on the closing date of 2-Dec. Thanks again for engaging in this discussion. --Steve (vice chair for policy coordination) From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org<mailto:sdelbianco@actonline.org>> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:04:17 -0500 To: "'bc-GNSO@icann.org<mailto:'bc-GNSO@icann.org> GNSO list'" <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Per discussion in Dakar and on our 10-Nov member call, here is a draft of BC comments on the a proposed alternative to the for Continuity Operations Instrument in the new gTLD Program. Jon Nevett prepared this draft. This comment period and docs are described here<https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/rysg-proposal-cof-17oct11-en.htm>. These comments are due 2-Dec, giving us 10 days for review and approval. This is less than the 14-day period required in our charter, so I am requesting an expedited review period. If any member has substantive objections to the expedited review, we can go to 14 days and submit our comments after the ICANN due date. All BC members are invited to suggest edits. Please use track changes and circulate to BC list. Thanks again to Jon for taking the lead on this. Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com> Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2102/4055 - Release Date: 12/03/11
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On 3-Dec I circulated Draft 2 of the BC comment on the registries' proposal for a Continuity of Operations Fund. This week, Sarah Deutsch offered some clarifying edits. In his note (below) Phil Corwin argues against describing the COF as an implementation detail (see Phil's argument below). I believe Phil's requested change merits a brief discussion during tomorrow's BC member call. (see Draft 3 attached) These comments were due one week ago so let's try to close this topic tomorrow. --Steve From: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com>> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:22:33 +0000 To: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>>, 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: RE: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Steve: I believe that this document is much improved and have no objection to it. In particular, I appreciate the fact that the document no longer states that the BC plans to file a letter advocating additional changes to the new gTLD program’s trademark protection requirements – a subject that will first be discussed among BC members in the upcoming conference call scheduled for Friday, December 9. However, I would like to propose that the comment be strengthened. In that regard, I would propose that the sentence in point #2 that presently reads “We are not supportive of the approach presented by the Registry Constituency. “ should be altered to state “We oppose the approach presented by the Registry Constituency”. I am also concerned by the last sentence in the first paragraph of the background section – “The BC notes this new approach to considering potential improvements in implementation details for the new gTLD Program and provides comments on this topic.” This seems to concede that the Registry Constituency’s COF proposal is a mere implementation detail when, in fact, I believe it would be a significant substantive change in the new gTLD program that goes far beyond an implementation detail. The Registry Constituency was well aware of the COI requirement before the Board approved the new gTLD program in Singapore, and if registries had significant concerns with it they should gave raised them before the Board vote rather than urging a “yes” vote on the AG then before the Board. I would propose that the sentence be changed to reflect a BC position that COF is far more than an implementation detail and is not properly on the table at all. As previously stated, I have significant doubts about ICANN’s ability to effectively implement a COF approach because other industry-wide shared risk insurance pools -- such as, in the U.S., the FCIC, SIPC, and state insurance funds – require a supportive structure of pervasive regulation to ameliorate the moral hazard that inevitably arises when an industry participant can shift the consequences of its risk-taking to others. I do not believe it would be proper for ICANN to assume such a role – nor am I confident it could successfully undertake it, given continuing concerns regarding its ability to effectively enforce its bilateral contracts with registries. Also, as the BC statement notes, a COI offers substantially greater prospects for registrant protection in the event of a registry failure. But the issue is much larger than whether the COF proposal has merit. The issue is whether it is properly on the table at all – the issue, in fact, is what should be the proper means going forward to consider significant substantive changes in the new gTLD program (as distinct from addressing implementation details of the current requirements reflected in the Applicant Guidebook and standard registry contract). Here’s my problem – we constantly refer to and support ICANN’s multi-stakeholder policy-making process – but the word “process” implies a standard undertaking with a beginning, middle, and end, at the end of which things are settled for at least some reasonable amount of time. If ICANN had never been spun out of the Commerce Department it would be a government agency and its rulemaking process would be under the Administrative Procedures Act. The APA provides a well-understood process – there is an advance notice of proposed rulemaking which solicits initial comments, then there is promulgation of a proposed rule which solicits further comments, then there may even be one or two more publications of an altered rule reflecting the comments received (and along the way there may have been one or more public hearings to solicit oral input) – but in the end there is a Final Rule and it is really final, and the grounds for judicial challenge of that Rule are well understood and quite narrow. Now it may be proper for the ICANN process to be more flexible than that – but in the end it should produce a result with a reasonable degree of finality. We all have concerns about various aspects of the final Applicant Guidebook, even though the process of developing it took three years and at various points had a make-it-up-as-you-go-along procedural quality . But if any constituency can propose major changes to the AG just months after its adoption by the Board – and COF, again, appears to be a major substantive departure from COI, not a mere implementation detail – then the ICANN process is never final at all, nothing is ever settled for even a brief interval. That is really no process at all because it provides no reliable finality. And that in turn, in my opinion, raises further questions about ICANN’s overall credibility as an organization. There’s also a need to move on from the new gTLD program (aside from monitoring its launch and fleshing out details of its implementation) and engage on to the many other substantive issues challenging ICANN. If the Registries can advocate COF, and if any other Constituency can also propose major substantive changes in the program, then we are going to be back into the same disputes that were the focus of discussion of three years and that will be a major distraction from other pressing issues. Each of us has only so much personal bandwidth to devote to ICANN policy matters. To make clear, I have no problem with further refining the COI, such as considering lower financial commitments based on registry type or experience, as these seem to be legitimate implementation details. Summing up, I propose that: · The BC change its position on COF from “Not supportive of” to “opposes”. · The BC take the position that COF is a significant AG substantive change and proposed replacement for COI, and therefore not an implementation detail of COI. · The BC engage in a constituency discussion of when and under what procedures significant substantive changes in the new gTLD program – as opposed to mere implementation of the program as approved by the Board – can properly be put on the table for consideration, as well as what the process and standard should be for considering and incorporating them. Regards to all, Philip From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org> [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 5:29 PM To: 'Bc GNSO list ' Subject: [bc-gnso] Re: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Rapporteur Jon Nevett incorporated Marilyn's edits into the attached DRAFT 2. I also adjusted the opening section to address a concern expressed by Phil Corwin today: The BC notes this new approach to considering potential improvements in implementation details for the new gTLD Program and provides comments on this topic. Also attached is a redline comparing draft 1 and 2. If any BC member objects to the BC filing this Draft 2 comment , please REPLY ALL and explain your objections. If any member objections are noted by midnight UTC on 7-Dec, we will ask the membership to vote on the comments. If no objections are noted, we will post the attached draft to ICANN on 9-Dec. Thanks to Marilyn and Jon for their work on these comments. From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org<mailto:sdelbianco@actonline.org>> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 22:43:19 -0500 To: 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: FW: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Last night, Marilyn Cade submitted extensive edits to our draft comments on the Continuity of Operations Fund proposal from the Registries. See second attachment and Marilyn's summary of her comments below. Per the plan I sent this week, we will now allow 7 additional days of review time, with a target date to submit by next Friday 9-Dec. That would make us just one week late for ICANN's comment deadline. Rapporteur Jon Nevett will take first look at Marilyn's edits and will circulate a new version over the weekend. From: marilynscade@hotmail.com<mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com> To: bcprivate@icann.org<mailto:bcprivate@icann.org> Subject: IMPORTANT: SEE PROPOSED CHANGES/EDITS IN THE BC DRAFT: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:49:10 -0500 I propose several changes and an enhancement about why the BC cares about this topic, and also note that we would like similar opportunity to achieve changes in the new gTLD program -- regarding IPR protections. I will send a separate email about that topic, based on discussions with Steve, Sarah, and others about the existing call for improvements in that area. [Separate email]. My comments are as an individual member of the BC on this BC position statement. The changes I propose to this draft are consistent with BC's positions regarding priority of protecting registrants and users. See 2, where I added ICANN's responsibiilty to act in the public interest. 3. I explicitly stated that we do not support the Regy proposal. That was missing from our statement. I also said that improvements could be made in the COI. See 4. 5. I also added in that the BC fears a high risk of failure of some of the new gTLDs. 6. I added that we expect there to be appropriate legal agreements in the contracts that would allow for the protection of registered names. I deleted the old 7, which seemed to say on the one hand, and then on the other hand. The purpose of this statement is to either support the Registry proposal, or oppose it. I oppose it, for the reasons I noted in my edits. I do think that COI can be improved, especially as it regards 'brands' gTLDs. I was also concerned in reading the transcript of the actual panel in Dakar -- I was not able to attend in person -- the panel looked heavily stacked toward supporters of the new gTLD program. However, the important news may be that if ICANN will accept suggested changes form a single constituency, we should be aggressively be addressing our call for changes in Trademark protection. Marilyn Cade From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org<mailto:sdelbianco@actonline.org>> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:29:48 -0500 To: 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: FW: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Thanks to all for engaging in the email discussion over these comments. However, I don't think we've seen any specific edits on the draft circulated last Tuesday 22-Nov. Ron and Phil proposed a more extensive critique of the Guidebook's COI plan, but the scope of this comment is reacting to the Registry proposal for an alternative mechanism (COF). I would strongly suggest that Ron and Phil individually submit their concerns to ICANN, of course. Mike Palage advised us to be careful about conflicts of interest, so I propose a simple way to do this quickly and transparently: If any BC member objects to the BC filing the attached draft comment , please REPLY ALL and indicate your objection and reason. If any member objections are noted by midnight UTC on 1-Dec, we will extend the process and ask the membership to vote on alternate versions of BC comments. This would mean our comments are submitted late, but might still be considered. If no objections are noted we will post the attached draft to ICANN on the closing date of 2-Dec. Thanks again for engaging in this discussion. --Steve (vice chair for policy coordination) From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org<mailto:sdelbianco@actonline.org>> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:04:17 -0500 To: "'bc-GNSO@icann.org<mailto:'bc-GNSO@icann.org> GNSO list'" <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Per discussion in Dakar and on our 10-Nov member call, here is a draft of BC comments on the a proposed alternative to the for Continuity Operations Instrument in the new gTLD Program. Jon Nevett prepared this draft. This comment period and docs are described here<https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/rysg-proposal-cof-17oct11-en.htm>. These comments are due 2-Dec, giving us 10 days for review and approval. This is less than the 14-day period required in our charter, so I am requesting an expedited review period. If any member has substantive objections to the expedited review, we can go to 14 days and submit our comments after the ICANN due date. All BC members are invited to suggest edits. Please use track changes and circulate to BC list. Thanks again to Jon for taking the lead on this. Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com> Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2102/4055 - Release Date: 12/03/11
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Thanks Steve. How does the COF tie back to the original principles that were agreed by the Council and the Board by supermajority? If not specifically required in those principles, then by definition it is an implementation detail. albeit a big one. Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1.415.738.8087 <http://rodenbaugh.com> http://rodenbaugh.com From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 6:35 PM To: 'Bc GNSO list ' Subject: [bc-gnso] for discussion on 9-Dec call: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) On 3-Dec I circulated Draft 2 of the BC comment on the registries' proposal for a Continuity of Operations Fund. This week, Sarah Deutsch offered some clarifying edits. In his note (below) Phil Corwin argues against describing the COF as an implementation detail (see Phil's argument below). I believe Phil's requested change merits a brief discussion during tomorrow's BC member call. (see Draft 3 attached) These comments were due one week ago so let's try to close this topic tomorrow. --Steve From: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:22:33 +0000 To: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org>, 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: RE: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Steve: I believe that this document is much improved and have no objection to it. In particular, I appreciate the fact that the document no longer states that the BC plans to file a letter advocating additional changes to the new gTLD program's trademark protection requirements - a subject that will first be discussed among BC members in the upcoming conference call scheduled for Friday, December 9. However, I would like to propose that the comment be strengthened. In that regard, I would propose that the sentence in point #2 that presently reads "We are not supportive of the approach presented by the Registry Constituency. " should be altered to state "We oppose the approach presented by the Registry Constituency". I am also concerned by the last sentence in the first paragraph of the background section - "The BC notes this new approach to considering potential improvements in implementation details for the new gTLD Program and provides comments on this topic." This seems to concede that the Registry Constituency's COF proposal is a mere implementation detail when, in fact, I believe it would be a significant substantive change in the new gTLD program that goes far beyond an implementation detail. The Registry Constituency was well aware of the COI requirement before the Board approved the new gTLD program in Singapore, and if registries had significant concerns with it they should gave raised them before the Board vote rather than urging a "yes" vote on the AG then before the Board. I would propose that the sentence be changed to reflect a BC position that COF is far more than an implementation detail and is not properly on the table at all. As previously stated, I have significant doubts about ICANN's ability to effectively implement a COF approach because other industry-wide shared risk insurance pools -- such as, in the U.S., the FCIC, SIPC, and state insurance funds - require a supportive structure of pervasive regulation to ameliorate the moral hazard that inevitably arises when an industry participant can shift the consequences of its risk-taking to others. I do not believe it would be proper for ICANN to assume such a role - nor am I confident it could successfully undertake it, given continuing concerns regarding its ability to effectively enforce its bilateral contracts with registries. Also, as the BC statement notes, a COI offers substantially greater prospects for registrant protection in the event of a registry failure. But the issue is much larger than whether the COF proposal has merit. The issue is whether it is properly on the table at all - the issue, in fact, is what should be the proper means going forward to consider significant substantive changes in the new gTLD program (as distinct from addressing implementation details of the current requirements reflected in the Applicant Guidebook and standard registry contract). Here's my problem - we constantly refer to and support ICANN's multi-stakeholder policy-making process - but the word "process" implies a standard undertaking with a beginning, middle, and end, at the end of which things are settled for at least some reasonable amount of time. If ICANN had never been spun out of the Commerce Department it would be a government agency and its rulemaking process would be under the Administrative Procedures Act. The APA provides a well-understood process - there is an advance notice of proposed rulemaking which solicits initial comments, then there is promulgation of a proposed rule which solicits further comments, then there may even be one or two more publications of an altered rule reflecting the comments received (and along the way there may have been one or more public hearings to solicit oral input) - but in the end there is a Final Rule and it is really final, and the grounds for judicial challenge of that Rule are well understood and quite narrow. Now it may be proper for the ICANN process to be more flexible than that - but in the end it should produce a result with a reasonable degree of finality. We all have concerns about various aspects of the final Applicant Guidebook, even though the process of developing it took three years and at various points had a make-it-up-as-you-go-along procedural quality . But if any constituency can propose major changes to the AG just months after its adoption by the Board - and COF, again, appears to be a major substantive departure from COI, not a mere implementation detail - then the ICANN process is never final at all, nothing is ever settled for even a brief interval. That is really no process at all because it provides no reliable finality. And that in turn, in my opinion, raises further questions about ICANN's overall credibility as an organization. There's also a need to move on from the new gTLD program (aside from monitoring its launch and fleshing out details of its implementation) and engage on to the many other substantive issues challenging ICANN. If the Registries can advocate COF, and if any other Constituency can also propose major substantive changes in the program, then we are going to be back into the same disputes that were the focus of discussion of three years and that will be a major distraction from other pressing issues. Each of us has only so much personal bandwidth to devote to ICANN policy matters. To make clear, I have no problem with further refining the COI, such as considering lower financial commitments based on registry type or experience, as these seem to be legitimate implementation details. Summing up, I propose that: . The BC change its position on COF from "Not supportive of" to "opposes". . The BC take the position that COF is a significant AG substantive change and proposed replacement for COI, and therefore not an implementation detail of COI. . The BC engage in a constituency discussion of when and under what procedures significant substantive changes in the new gTLD program - as opposed to mere implementation of the program as approved by the Board - can properly be put on the table for consideration, as well as what the process and standard should be for considering and incorporating them. Regards to all, Philip From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 5:29 PM To: 'Bc GNSO list ' Subject: [bc-gnso] Re: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Rapporteur Jon Nevett incorporated Marilyn's edits into the attached DRAFT 2. I also adjusted the opening section to address a concern expressed by Phil Corwin today: The BC notes this new approach to considering potential improvements in implementation details for the new gTLD Program and provides comments on this topic. Also attached is a redline comparing draft 1 and 2. If any BC member objects to the BC filing this Draft 2 comment , please REPLY ALL and explain your objections. If any member objections are noted by midnight UTC on 7-Dec, we will ask the membership to vote on the comments. If no objections are noted, we will post the attached draft to ICANN on 9-Dec. Thanks to Marilyn and Jon for their work on these comments. From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 22:43:19 -0500 To: 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: FW: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Last night, Marilyn Cade submitted extensive edits to our draft comments on the Continuity of Operations Fund proposal from the Registries. See second attachment and Marilyn's summary of her comments below. Per the plan I sent this week, we will now allow 7 additional days of review time, with a target date to submit by next Friday 9-Dec. That would make us just one week late for ICANN's comment deadline. Rapporteur Jon Nevett will take first look at Marilyn's edits and will circulate a new version over the weekend. From: marilynscade@hotmail.com To: bcprivate@icann.org Subject: IMPORTANT: SEE PROPOSED CHANGES/EDITS IN THE BC DRAFT: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:49:10 -0500 I propose several changes and an enhancement about why the BC cares about this topic, and also note that we would like similar opportunity to achieve changes in the new gTLD program -- regarding IPR protections. I will send a separate email about that topic, based on discussions with Steve, Sarah, and others about the existing call for improvements in that area. [Separate email]. My comments are as an individual member of the BC on this BC position statement. The changes I propose to this draft are consistent with BC's positions regarding priority of protecting registrants and users. See 2, where I added ICANN's responsibiilty to act in the public interest. 3. I explicitly stated that we do not support the Regy proposal. That was missing from our statement. I also said that improvements could be made in the COI. See 4. 5. I also added in that the BC fears a high risk of failure of some of the new gTLDs. 6. I added that we expect there to be appropriate legal agreements in the contracts that would allow for the protection of registered names. I deleted the old 7, which seemed to say on the one hand, and then on the other hand. The purpose of this statement is to either support the Registry proposal, or oppose it. I oppose it, for the reasons I noted in my edits. I do think that COI can be improved, especially as it regards 'brands' gTLDs. I was also concerned in reading the transcript of the actual panel in Dakar -- I was not able to attend in person -- the panel looked heavily stacked toward supporters of the new gTLD program. However, the important news may be that if ICANN will accept suggested changes form a single constituency, we should be aggressively be addressing our call for changes in Trademark protection. Marilyn Cade From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:29:48 -0500 To: 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: FW: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Thanks to all for engaging in the email discussion over these comments. However, I don't think we've seen any specific edits on the draft circulated last Tuesday 22-Nov. Ron and Phil proposed a more extensive critique of the Guidebook's COI plan, but the scope of this comment is reacting to the Registry proposal for an alternative mechanism (COF). I would strongly suggest that Ron and Phil individually submit their concerns to ICANN, of course. Mike Palage advised us to be careful about conflicts of interest, so I propose a simple way to do this quickly and transparently: If any BC member objects to the BC filing the attached draft comment , please REPLY ALL and indicate your objection and reason. If any member objections are noted by midnight UTC on 1-Dec, we will extend the process and ask the membership to vote on alternate versions of BC comments. This would mean our comments are submitted late, but might still be considered. If no objections are noted we will post the attached draft to ICANN on the closing date of 2-Dec. Thanks again for engaging in this discussion. --Steve (vice chair for policy coordination) From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:04:17 -0500 To: "'bc-GNSO@icann.org GNSO list'" <bc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Per discussion in Dakar and on our 10-Nov member call, here is a draft of BC comments on the a proposed alternative to the for Continuity Operations Instrument in the new gTLD Program. Jon Nevett prepared this draft. This comment period and docs are described here <https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/rysg-proposal-cof-17oct11-en.htm> . These comments are due 2-Dec, giving us 10 days for review and approval. This is less than the 14-day period required in our charter, so I am requesting an expedited review period. If any member has substantive objections to the expedited review, we can go to 14 days and submit our comments after the ICANN due date. All BC members are invited to suggest edits. Please use track changes and circulate to BC list. Thanks again to Jon for taking the lead on this. Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2102/4055 - Release Date: 12/03/11
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Good point, Mike. In the 2007 Principles<http://gnso.icann.org/issues/new-gtlds/pdp-dec05-fr-parta-08aug07.htm> I found these two relevant items: A set of capability criteria for a new gTLD registry applicant must be used to provide an assurance that an applicant has the capability to meets its obligations under the terms of ICANN’s registry agreement. Applicants must be able to demonstrate their financial and organisational operational capability. If that's all GNSO said about it, wouldn't we conclude that the Continuity of Operations instrument is an implementation detail? --Steve From: Mike Rodenbaugh <icann@rodenbaugh.com<mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com>> Organization: Rodenbaugh Law Reply-To: <mike@rodenbaugh.com<mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com>> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 19:13:57 -0800 To: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>>, 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] for discussion on 9-Dec call: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Thanks Steve. How does the COF tie back to the original principles that were agreed by the Council and the Board by supermajority? If not specifically required in those principles, then by definition it is an implementation detail… albeit a big one. From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org> [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 6:35 PM To: 'Bc GNSO list ' Subject: [bc-gnso] for discussion on 9-Dec call: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) On 3-Dec I circulated Draft 2 of the BC comment on the registries' proposal for a Continuity of Operations Fund. This week, Sarah Deutsch offered some clarifying edits. In his note (below) Phil Corwin argues against describing the COF as an implementation detail (see Phil's argument below). I believe Phil's requested change merits a brief discussion during tomorrow's BC member call. (see Draft 3 attached) These comments were due one week ago so let's try to close this topic tomorrow. --Steve From: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com>> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:22:33 +0000 To: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>>, 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: RE: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Steve: I believe that this document is much improved and have no objection to it. In particular, I appreciate the fact that the document no longer states that the BC plans to file a letter advocating additional changes to the new gTLD program’s trademark protection requirements – a subject that will first be discussed among BC members in the upcoming conference call scheduled for Friday, December 9. However, I would like to propose that the comment be strengthened. In that regard, I would propose that the sentence in point #2 that presently reads “We are not supportive of the approach presented by the Registry Constituency. “ should be altered to state “We oppose the approach presented by the Registry Constituency”. I am also concerned by the last sentence in the first paragraph of the background section – “The BC notes this new approach to considering potential improvements in implementation details for the new gTLD Program and provides comments on this topic.” This seems to concede that the Registry Constituency’s COF proposal is a mere implementation detail when, in fact, I believe it would be a significant substantive change in the new gTLD program that goes far beyond an implementation detail. The Registry Constituency was well aware of the COI requirement before the Board approved the new gTLD program in Singapore, and if registries had significant concerns with it they should gave raised them before the Board vote rather than urging a “yes” vote on the AG then before the Board. I would propose that the sentence be changed to reflect a BC position that COF is far more than an implementation detail and is not properly on the table at all. As previously stated, I have significant doubts about ICANN’s ability to effectively implement a COF approach because other industry-wide shared risk insurance pools -- such as, in the U.S., the FCIC, SIPC, and state insurance funds – require a supportive structure of pervasive regulation to ameliorate the moral hazard that inevitably arises when an industry participant can shift the consequences of its risk-taking to others. I do not believe it would be proper for ICANN to assume such a role – nor am I confident it could successfully undertake it, given continuing concerns regarding its ability to effectively enforce its bilateral contracts with registries. Also, as the BC statement notes, a COI offers substantially greater prospects for registrant protection in the event of a registry failure. But the issue is much larger than whether the COF proposal has merit. The issue is whether it is properly on the table at all – the issue, in fact, is what should be the proper means going forward to consider significant substantive changes in the new gTLD program (as distinct from addressing implementation details of the current requirements reflected in the Applicant Guidebook and standard registry contract). Here’s my problem – we constantly refer to and support ICANN’s multi-stakeholder policy-making process – but the word “process” implies a standard undertaking with a beginning, middle, and end, at the end of which things are settled for at least some reasonable amount of time. If ICANN had never been spun out of the Commerce Department it would be a government agency and its rulemaking process would be under the Administrative Procedures Act. The APA provides a well-understood process – there is an advance notice of proposed rulemaking which solicits initial comments, then there is promulgation of a proposed rule which solicits further comments, then there may even be one or two more publications of an altered rule reflecting the comments received (and along the way there may have been one or more public hearings to solicit oral input) – but in the end there is a Final Rule and it is really final, and the grounds for judicial challenge of that Rule are well understood and quite narrow. Now it may be proper for the ICANN process to be more flexible than that – but in the end it should produce a result with a reasonable degree of finality. We all have concerns about various aspects of the final Applicant Guidebook, even though the process of developing it took three years and at various points had a make-it-up-as-you-go-along procedural quality . But if any constituency can propose major changes to the AG just months after its adoption by the Board – and COF, again, appears to be a major substantive departure from COI, not a mere implementation detail – then the ICANN process is never final at all, nothing is ever settled for even a brief interval. That is really no process at all because it provides no reliable finality. And that in turn, in my opinion, raises further questions about ICANN’s overall credibility as an organization. There’s also a need to move on from the new gTLD program (aside from monitoring its launch and fleshing out details of its implementation) and engage on to the many other substantive issues challenging ICANN. If the Registries can advocate COF, and if any other Constituency can also propose major substantive changes in the program, then we are going to be back into the same disputes that were the focus of discussion of three years and that will be a major distraction from other pressing issues. Each of us has only so much personal bandwidth to devote to ICANN policy matters. To make clear, I have no problem with further refining the COI, such as considering lower financial commitments based on registry type or experience, as these seem to be legitimate implementation details. Summing up, I propose that: · The BC change its position on COF from “Not supportive of” to “opposes”. · The BC take the position that COF is a significant AG substantive change and proposed replacement for COI, and therefore not an implementation detail of COI. · The BC engage in a constituency discussion of when and under what procedures significant substantive changes in the new gTLD program – as opposed to mere implementation of the program as approved by the Board – can properly be put on the table for consideration, as well as what the process and standard should be for considering and incorporating them. Regards to all, Philip From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org> [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 5:29 PM To: 'Bc GNSO list ' Subject: [bc-gnso] Re: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Rapporteur Jon Nevett incorporated Marilyn's edits into the attached DRAFT 2. I also adjusted the opening section to address a concern expressed by Phil Corwin today: The BC notes this new approach to considering potential improvements in implementation details for the new gTLD Program and provides comments on this topic. Also attached is a redline comparing draft 1 and 2. If any BC member objects to the BC filing this Draft 2 comment , please REPLY ALL and explain your objections. If any member objections are noted by midnight UTC on 7-Dec, we will ask the membership to vote on the comments. If no objections are noted, we will post the attached draft to ICANN on 9-Dec. Thanks to Marilyn and Jon for their work on these comments. From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org<mailto:sdelbianco@actonline.org>> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 22:43:19 -0500 To: 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: FW: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Last night, Marilyn Cade submitted extensive edits to our draft comments on the Continuity of Operations Fund proposal from the Registries. See second attachment and Marilyn's summary of her comments below. Per the plan I sent this week, we will now allow 7 additional days of review time, with a target date to submit by next Friday 9-Dec. That would make us just one week late for ICANN's comment deadline. Rapporteur Jon Nevett will take first look at Marilyn's edits and will circulate a new version over the weekend. From: marilynscade@hotmail.com<mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com> To: bcprivate@icann.org<mailto:bcprivate@icann.org> Subject: IMPORTANT: SEE PROPOSED CHANGES/EDITS IN THE BC DRAFT: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:49:10 -0500 I propose several changes and an enhancement about why the BC cares about this topic, and also note that we would like similar opportunity to achieve changes in the new gTLD program -- regarding IPR protections. I will send a separate email about that topic, based on discussions with Steve, Sarah, and others about the existing call for improvements in that area. [Separate email]. My comments are as an individual member of the BC on this BC position statement. The changes I propose to this draft are consistent with BC's positions regarding priority of protecting registrants and users. See 2, where I added ICANN's responsibiilty to act in the public interest. 3. I explicitly stated that we do not support the Regy proposal. That was missing from our statement. I also said that improvements could be made in the COI. See 4. 5. I also added in that the BC fears a high risk of failure of some of the new gTLDs. 6. I added that we expect there to be appropriate legal agreements in the contracts that would allow for the protection of registered names. I deleted the old 7, which seemed to say on the one hand, and then on the other hand. The purpose of this statement is to either support the Registry proposal, or oppose it. I oppose it, for the reasons I noted in my edits. I do think that COI can be improved, especially as it regards 'brands' gTLDs. I was also concerned in reading the transcript of the actual panel in Dakar -- I was not able to attend in person -- the panel looked heavily stacked toward supporters of the new gTLD program. However, the important news may be that if ICANN will accept suggested changes form a single constituency, we should be aggressively be addressing our call for changes in Trademark protection. Marilyn Cade From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org<mailto:sdelbianco@actonline.org>> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:29:48 -0500 To: 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: FW: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Thanks to all for engaging in the email discussion over these comments. However, I don't think we've seen any specific edits on the draft circulated last Tuesday 22-Nov. Ron and Phil proposed a more extensive critique of the Guidebook's COI plan, but the scope of this comment is reacting to the Registry proposal for an alternative mechanism (COF). I would strongly suggest that Ron and Phil individually submit their concerns to ICANN, of course. Mike Palage advised us to be careful about conflicts of interest, so I propose a simple way to do this quickly and transparently: If any BC member objects to the BC filing the attached draft comment , please REPLY ALL and indicate your objection and reason. If any member objections are noted by midnight UTC on 1-Dec, we will extend the process and ask the membership to vote on alternate versions of BC comments. This would mean our comments are submitted late, but might still be considered. If no objections are noted we will post the attached draft to ICANN on the closing date of 2-Dec. Thanks again for engaging in this discussion. --Steve (vice chair for policy coordination) From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org<mailto:sdelbianco@actonline.org>> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:04:17 -0500 To: "'bc-GNSO@icann.org<mailto:'bc-GNSO@icann.org> GNSO list'" <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Per discussion in Dakar and on our 10-Nov member call, here is a draft of BC comments on the a proposed alternative to the for Continuity Operations Instrument in the new gTLD Program. Jon Nevett prepared this draft. This comment period and docs are described here<https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/rysg-proposal-cof-17oct11-en.htm>. These comments are due 2-Dec, giving us 10 days for review and approval. This is less than the 14-day period required in our charter, so I am requesting an expedited review period. If any member has substantive objections to the expedited review, we can go to 14 days and submit our comments after the ICANN due date. All BC members are invited to suggest edits. Please use track changes and circulate to BC list. Thanks again to Jon for taking the lead on this. Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com> Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2102/4055 - Release Date: 12/03/11
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Yes. But as Phil says, the COI requirement was approved by the Board as part of the Guidebook, so presumably would take Board action to amend. Certainly would take Board action to adopt COF. I had thought there was going to be a Board meeting today with that on the agenda. Does anyone know if it happened and whether this was discussed? Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1.415.738.8087 <http://rodenbaugh.com> http://rodenbaugh.com From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 7:50 PM To: 'Bc GNSO list ' Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] for discussion on 9-Dec call: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Good point, Mike. In the 2007 Principles <http://gnso.icann.org/issues/new-gtlds/pdp-dec05-fr-parta-08aug07.htm> I found these two relevant items: A set of capability criteria for a new gTLD registry applicant must be used to provide an assurance that an applicant has the capability to meets its obligations under the terms of ICANN's registry agreement. Applicants must be able to demonstrate their financial and organisational operational capability. If that's all GNSO said about it, wouldn't we conclude that the Continuity of Operations instrument is an implementation detail? --Steve From: Mike Rodenbaugh <icann@rodenbaugh.com> Organization: Rodenbaugh Law Reply-To: <mike@rodenbaugh.com> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 19:13:57 -0800 To: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org>, 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] for discussion on 9-Dec call: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Thanks Steve. How does the COF tie back to the original principles that were agreed by the Council and the Board by supermajority? If not specifically required in those principles, then by definition it is an implementation detail. albeit a big one. From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 6:35 PM To: 'Bc GNSO list ' Subject: [bc-gnso] for discussion on 9-Dec call: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) On 3-Dec I circulated Draft 2 of the BC comment on the registries' proposal for a Continuity of Operations Fund. This week, Sarah Deutsch offered some clarifying edits. In his note (below) Phil Corwin argues against describing the COF as an implementation detail (see Phil's argument below). I believe Phil's requested change merits a brief discussion during tomorrow's BC member call. (see Draft 3 attached) These comments were due one week ago so let's try to close this topic tomorrow. --Steve From: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:22:33 +0000 To: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org>, 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: RE: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Steve: I believe that this document is much improved and have no objection to it. In particular, I appreciate the fact that the document no longer states that the BC plans to file a letter advocating additional changes to the new gTLD program's trademark protection requirements - a subject that will first be discussed among BC members in the upcoming conference call scheduled for Friday, December 9. However, I would like to propose that the comment be strengthened. In that regard, I would propose that the sentence in point #2 that presently reads "We are not supportive of the approach presented by the Registry Constituency. " should be altered to state "We oppose the approach presented by the Registry Constituency". I am also concerned by the last sentence in the first paragraph of the background section - "The BC notes this new approach to considering potential improvements in implementation details for the new gTLD Program and provides comments on this topic." This seems to concede that the Registry Constituency's COF proposal is a mere implementation detail when, in fact, I believe it would be a significant substantive change in the new gTLD program that goes far beyond an implementation detail. The Registry Constituency was well aware of the COI requirement before the Board approved the new gTLD program in Singapore, and if registries had significant concerns with it they should gave raised them before the Board vote rather than urging a "yes" vote on the AG then before the Board. I would propose that the sentence be changed to reflect a BC position that COF is far more than an implementation detail and is not properly on the table at all. As previously stated, I have significant doubts about ICANN's ability to effectively implement a COF approach because other industry-wide shared risk insurance pools -- such as, in the U.S., the FCIC, SIPC, and state insurance funds - require a supportive structure of pervasive regulation to ameliorate the moral hazard that inevitably arises when an industry participant can shift the consequences of its risk-taking to others. I do not believe it would be proper for ICANN to assume such a role - nor am I confident it could successfully undertake it, given continuing concerns regarding its ability to effectively enforce its bilateral contracts with registries. Also, as the BC statement notes, a COI offers substantially greater prospects for registrant protection in the event of a registry failure. But the issue is much larger than whether the COF proposal has merit. The issue is whether it is properly on the table at all - the issue, in fact, is what should be the proper means going forward to consider significant substantive changes in the new gTLD program (as distinct from addressing implementation details of the current requirements reflected in the Applicant Guidebook and standard registry contract). Here's my problem - we constantly refer to and support ICANN's multi-stakeholder policy-making process - but the word "process" implies a standard undertaking with a beginning, middle, and end, at the end of which things are settled for at least some reasonable amount of time. If ICANN had never been spun out of the Commerce Department it would be a government agency and its rulemaking process would be under the Administrative Procedures Act. The APA provides a well-understood process - there is an advance notice of proposed rulemaking which solicits initial comments, then there is promulgation of a proposed rule which solicits further comments, then there may even be one or two more publications of an altered rule reflecting the comments received (and along the way there may have been one or more public hearings to solicit oral input) - but in the end there is a Final Rule and it is really final, and the grounds for judicial challenge of that Rule are well understood and quite narrow. Now it may be proper for the ICANN process to be more flexible than that - but in the end it should produce a result with a reasonable degree of finality. We all have concerns about various aspects of the final Applicant Guidebook, even though the process of developing it took three years and at various points had a make-it-up-as-you-go-along procedural quality . But if any constituency can propose major changes to the AG just months after its adoption by the Board - and COF, again, appears to be a major substantive departure from COI, not a mere implementation detail - then the ICANN process is never final at all, nothing is ever settled for even a brief interval. That is really no process at all because it provides no reliable finality. And that in turn, in my opinion, raises further questions about ICANN's overall credibility as an organization. There's also a need to move on from the new gTLD program (aside from monitoring its launch and fleshing out details of its implementation) and engage on to the many other substantive issues challenging ICANN. If the Registries can advocate COF, and if any other Constituency can also propose major substantive changes in the program, then we are going to be back into the same disputes that were the focus of discussion of three years and that will be a major distraction from other pressing issues. Each of us has only so much personal bandwidth to devote to ICANN policy matters. To make clear, I have no problem with further refining the COI, such as considering lower financial commitments based on registry type or experience, as these seem to be legitimate implementation details. Summing up, I propose that: . The BC change its position on COF from "Not supportive of" to "opposes". . The BC take the position that COF is a significant AG substantive change and proposed replacement for COI, and therefore not an implementation detail of COI. . The BC engage in a constituency discussion of when and under what procedures significant substantive changes in the new gTLD program - as opposed to mere implementation of the program as approved by the Board - can properly be put on the table for consideration, as well as what the process and standard should be for considering and incorporating them. Regards to all, Philip From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 5:29 PM To: 'Bc GNSO list ' Subject: [bc-gnso] Re: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Rapporteur Jon Nevett incorporated Marilyn's edits into the attached DRAFT 2. I also adjusted the opening section to address a concern expressed by Phil Corwin today: The BC notes this new approach to considering potential improvements in implementation details for the new gTLD Program and provides comments on this topic. Also attached is a redline comparing draft 1 and 2. If any BC member objects to the BC filing this Draft 2 comment , please REPLY ALL and explain your objections. If any member objections are noted by midnight UTC on 7-Dec, we will ask the membership to vote on the comments. If no objections are noted, we will post the attached draft to ICANN on 9-Dec. Thanks to Marilyn and Jon for their work on these comments. From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 22:43:19 -0500 To: 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: FW: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Last night, Marilyn Cade submitted extensive edits to our draft comments on the Continuity of Operations Fund proposal from the Registries. See second attachment and Marilyn's summary of her comments below. Per the plan I sent this week, we will now allow 7 additional days of review time, with a target date to submit by next Friday 9-Dec. That would make us just one week late for ICANN's comment deadline. Rapporteur Jon Nevett will take first look at Marilyn's edits and will circulate a new version over the weekend. From: marilynscade@hotmail.com To: bcprivate@icann.org Subject: IMPORTANT: SEE PROPOSED CHANGES/EDITS IN THE BC DRAFT: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:49:10 -0500 I propose several changes and an enhancement about why the BC cares about this topic, and also note that we would like similar opportunity to achieve changes in the new gTLD program -- regarding IPR protections. I will send a separate email about that topic, based on discussions with Steve, Sarah, and others about the existing call for improvements in that area. [Separate email]. My comments are as an individual member of the BC on this BC position statement. The changes I propose to this draft are consistent with BC's positions regarding priority of protecting registrants and users. See 2, where I added ICANN's responsibiilty to act in the public interest. 3. I explicitly stated that we do not support the Regy proposal. That was missing from our statement. I also said that improvements could be made in the COI. See 4. 5. I also added in that the BC fears a high risk of failure of some of the new gTLDs. 6. I added that we expect there to be appropriate legal agreements in the contracts that would allow for the protection of registered names. I deleted the old 7, which seemed to say on the one hand, and then on the other hand. The purpose of this statement is to either support the Registry proposal, or oppose it. I oppose it, for the reasons I noted in my edits. I do think that COI can be improved, especially as it regards 'brands' gTLDs. I was also concerned in reading the transcript of the actual panel in Dakar -- I was not able to attend in person -- the panel looked heavily stacked toward supporters of the new gTLD program. However, the important news may be that if ICANN will accept suggested changes form a single constituency, we should be aggressively be addressing our call for changes in Trademark protection. Marilyn Cade From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:29:48 -0500 To: 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: FW: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Thanks to all for engaging in the email discussion over these comments. However, I don't think we've seen any specific edits on the draft circulated last Tuesday 22-Nov. Ron and Phil proposed a more extensive critique of the Guidebook's COI plan, but the scope of this comment is reacting to the Registry proposal for an alternative mechanism (COF). I would strongly suggest that Ron and Phil individually submit their concerns to ICANN, of course. Mike Palage advised us to be careful about conflicts of interest, so I propose a simple way to do this quickly and transparently: If any BC member objects to the BC filing the attached draft comment , please REPLY ALL and indicate your objection and reason. If any member objections are noted by midnight UTC on 1-Dec, we will extend the process and ask the membership to vote on alternate versions of BC comments. This would mean our comments are submitted late, but might still be considered. If no objections are noted we will post the attached draft to ICANN on the closing date of 2-Dec. Thanks again for engaging in this discussion. --Steve (vice chair for policy coordination) From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:04:17 -0500 To: "'bc-GNSO@icann.org GNSO list'" <bc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Per discussion in Dakar and on our 10-Nov member call, here is a draft of BC comments on the a proposed alternative to the for Continuity Operations Instrument in the new gTLD Program. Jon Nevett prepared this draft. This comment period and docs are described here <https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/rysg-proposal-cof-17oct11-en.htm> . These comments are due 2-Dec, giving us 10 days for review and approval. This is less than the 14-day period required in our charter, so I am requesting an expedited review period. If any member has substantive objections to the expedited review, we can go to 14 days and submit our comments after the ICANN due date. All BC members are invited to suggest edits. Please use track changes and circulate to BC list. Thanks again to Jon for taking the lead on this. Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2102/4055 - Release Date: 12/03/11
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Reaching back to 2007 GNSO Principles seems to me of little relevance to the present discussion. That was a year before the Board approved going forward with new gTLDs, and also before three succeeding years of multiple drafts of the Applicant Guidebook were considered and amended before the Final version was approved in Singapore. The Principles have long been supplanted by the requirements of the Guidebook. There will surely be other instances where deciding what is an implementation detail and what is substantive will be debatable. But in this case I think it's pretty clear - COI is in the Guidebook, and COF is not a proposal for how best to implement COI but an entirely new and substitute approach for registrant protection in the event of registry failure (that in turn raises a host of other new issues related to a pooled insurance fund rather than individual registry letters of credit). I think it is clearly substantive, and that in turn raises the issue of whether and when we believe individual constituencies should be allowed to reopen substantive debate an Guidebook issues that appeared to be settled. Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of icann@rodenbaugh.com Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 12:42 AM To: 'Steve DelBianco'; 'Bc GNSO list ' Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] for discussion on 9-Dec call: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Yes. But as Phil says, the COI requirement was approved by the Board as part of the Guidebook, so presumably would take Board action to amend. Certainly would take Board action to adopt COF. I had thought there was going to be a Board meeting today with that on the agenda. Does anyone know if it happened and whether this was discussed? Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1.415.738.8087 http://rodenbaugh.com From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org> [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org]<mailto:[mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org]> On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 7:50 PM To: 'Bc GNSO list ' Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] for discussion on 9-Dec call: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Good point, Mike. In the 2007 Principles<http://gnso.icann.org/issues/new-gtlds/pdp-dec05-fr-parta-08aug07.htm> I found these two relevant items: A set of capability criteria for a new gTLD registry applicant must be used to provide an assurance that an applicant has the capability to meets its obligations under the terms of ICANN's registry agreement. Applicants must be able to demonstrate their financial and organisational operational capability. If that's all GNSO said about it, wouldn't we conclude that the Continuity of Operations instrument is an implementation detail? --Steve From: Mike Rodenbaugh <icann@rodenbaugh.com<mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com>> Organization: Rodenbaugh Law Reply-To: <mike@rodenbaugh.com<mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com>> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 19:13:57 -0800 To: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>>, 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] for discussion on 9-Dec call: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Thanks Steve. How does the COF tie back to the original principles that were agreed by the Council and the Board by supermajority? If not specifically required in those principles, then by definition it is an implementation detail... albeit a big one. From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org> [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 6:35 PM To: 'Bc GNSO list ' Subject: [bc-gnso] for discussion on 9-Dec call: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) On 3-Dec I circulated Draft 2 of the BC comment on the registries' proposal for a Continuity of Operations Fund. This week, Sarah Deutsch offered some clarifying edits. In his note (below) Phil Corwin argues against describing the COF as an implementation detail (see Phil's argument below). I believe Phil's requested change merits a brief discussion during tomorrow's BC member call. (see Draft 3 attached) These comments were due one week ago so let's try to close this topic tomorrow. --Steve From: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com>> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:22:33 +0000 To: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>>, 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: RE: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Steve: I believe that this document is much improved and have no objection to it. In particular, I appreciate the fact that the document no longer states that the BC plans to file a letter advocating additional changes to the new gTLD program's trademark protection requirements - a subject that will first be discussed among BC members in the upcoming conference call scheduled for Friday, December 9. However, I would like to propose that the comment be strengthened. In that regard, I would propose that the sentence in point #2 that presently reads "We are not supportive of the approach presented by the Registry Constituency. " should be altered to state "We oppose the approach presented by the Registry Constituency". I am also concerned by the last sentence in the first paragraph of the background section - "The BC notes this new approach to considering potential improvements in implementation details for the new gTLD Program and provides comments on this topic." This seems to concede that the Registry Constituency's COF proposal is a mere implementation detail when, in fact, I believe it would be a significant substantive change in the new gTLD program that goes far beyond an implementation detail. The Registry Constituency was well aware of the COI requirement before the Board approved the new gTLD program in Singapore, and if registries had significant concerns with it they should gave raised them before the Board vote rather than urging a "yes" vote on the AG then before the Board. I would propose that the sentence be changed to reflect a BC position that COF is far more than an implementation detail and is not properly on the table at all. As previously stated, I have significant doubts about ICANN's ability to effectively implement a COF approach because other industry-wide shared risk insurance pools -- such as, in the U.S., the FCIC, SIPC, and state insurance funds - require a supportive structure of pervasive regulation to ameliorate the moral hazard that inevitably arises when an industry participant can shift the consequences of its risk-taking to others. I do not believe it would be proper for ICANN to assume such a role - nor am I confident it could successfully undertake it, given continuing concerns regarding its ability to effectively enforce its bilateral contracts with registries. Also, as the BC statement notes, a COI offers substantially greater prospects for registrant protection in the event of a registry failure. But the issue is much larger than whether the COF proposal has merit. The issue is whether it is properly on the table at all - the issue, in fact, is what should be the proper means going forward to consider significant substantive changes in the new gTLD program (as distinct from addressing implementation details of the current requirements reflected in the Applicant Guidebook and standard registry contract). Here's my problem - we constantly refer to and support ICANN's multi-stakeholder policy-making process - but the word "process" implies a standard undertaking with a beginning, middle, and end, at the end of which things are settled for at least some reasonable amount of time. If ICANN had never been spun out of the Commerce Department it would be a government agency and its rulemaking process would be under the Administrative Procedures Act. The APA provides a well-understood process - there is an advance notice of proposed rulemaking which solicits initial comments, then there is promulgation of a proposed rule which solicits further comments, then there may even be one or two more publications of an altered rule reflecting the comments received (and along the way there may have been one or more public hearings to solicit oral input) - but in the end there is a Final Rule and it is really final, and the grounds for judicial challenge of that Rule are well understood and quite narrow. Now it may be proper for the ICANN process to be more flexible than that - but in the end it should produce a result with a reasonable degree of finality. We all have concerns about various aspects of the final Applicant Guidebook, even though the process of developing it took three years and at various points had a make-it-up-as-you-go-along procedural quality . But if any constituency can propose major changes to the AG just months after its adoption by the Board - and COF, again, appears to be a major substantive departure from COI, not a mere implementation detail - then the ICANN process is never final at all, nothing is ever settled for even a brief interval. That is really no process at all because it provides no reliable finality. And that in turn, in my opinion, raises further questions about ICANN's overall credibility as an organization. There's also a need to move on from the new gTLD program (aside from monitoring its launch and fleshing out details of its implementation) and engage on to the many other substantive issues challenging ICANN. If the Registries can advocate COF, and if any other Constituency can also propose major substantive changes in the program, then we are going to be back into the same disputes that were the focus of discussion of three years and that will be a major distraction from other pressing issues. Each of us has only so much personal bandwidth to devote to ICANN policy matters. To make clear, I have no problem with further refining the COI, such as considering lower financial commitments based on registry type or experience, as these seem to be legitimate implementation details. Summing up, I propose that: * The BC change its position on COF from "Not supportive of" to "opposes". * The BC take the position that COF is a significant AG substantive change and proposed replacement for COI, and therefore not an implementation detail of COI. * The BC engage in a constituency discussion of when and under what procedures significant substantive changes in the new gTLD program - as opposed to mere implementation of the program as approved by the Board - can properly be put on the table for consideration, as well as what the process and standard should be for considering and incorporating them. Regards to all, Philip From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org> [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 5:29 PM To: 'Bc GNSO list ' Subject: [bc-gnso] Re: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Rapporteur Jon Nevett incorporated Marilyn's edits into the attached DRAFT 2. I also adjusted the opening section to address a concern expressed by Phil Corwin today: The BC notes this new approach to considering potential improvements in implementation details for the new gTLD Program and provides comments on this topic. Also attached is a redline comparing draft 1 and 2. If any BC member objects to the BC filing this Draft 2 comment , please REPLY ALL and explain your objections. If any member objections are noted by midnight UTC on 7-Dec, we will ask the membership to vote on the comments. If no objections are noted, we will post the attached draft to ICANN on 9-Dec. Thanks to Marilyn and Jon for their work on these comments. From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org<mailto:sdelbianco@actonline.org>> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 22:43:19 -0500 To: 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: FW: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Last night, Marilyn Cade submitted extensive edits to our draft comments on the Continuity of Operations Fund proposal from the Registries. See second attachment and Marilyn's summary of her comments below. Per the plan I sent this week, we will now allow 7 additional days of review time, with a target date to submit by next Friday 9-Dec. That would make us just one week late for ICANN's comment deadline. Rapporteur Jon Nevett will take first look at Marilyn's edits and will circulate a new version over the weekend. From: marilynscade@hotmail.com<mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com> To: bcprivate@icann.org<mailto:bcprivate@icann.org> Subject: IMPORTANT: SEE PROPOSED CHANGES/EDITS IN THE BC DRAFT: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:49:10 -0500 I propose several changes and an enhancement about why the BC cares about this topic, and also note that we would like similar opportunity to achieve changes in the new gTLD program -- regarding IPR protections. I will send a separate email about that topic, based on discussions with Steve, Sarah, and others about the existing call for improvements in that area. [Separate email]. My comments are as an individual member of the BC on this BC position statement. The changes I propose to this draft are consistent with BC's positions regarding priority of protecting registrants and users. See 2, where I added ICANN's responsibiilty to act in the public interest. 3. I explicitly stated that we do not support the Regy proposal. That was missing from our statement. I also said that improvements could be made in the COI. See 4. 5. I also added in that the BC fears a high risk of failure of some of the new gTLDs. 6. I added that we expect there to be appropriate legal agreements in the contracts that would allow for the protection of registered names. I deleted the old 7, which seemed to say on the one hand, and then on the other hand. The purpose of this statement is to either support the Registry proposal, or oppose it. I oppose it, for the reasons I noted in my edits. I do think that COI can be improved, especially as it regards 'brands' gTLDs. I was also concerned in reading the transcript of the actual panel in Dakar -- I was not able to attend in person -- the panel looked heavily stacked toward supporters of the new gTLD program. However, the important news may be that if ICANN will accept suggested changes form a single constituency, we should be aggressively be addressing our call for changes in Trademark protection. Marilyn Cade From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org<mailto:sdelbianco@actonline.org>> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:29:48 -0500 To: 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: FW: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Thanks to all for engaging in the email discussion over these comments. However, I don't think we've seen any specific edits on the draft circulated last Tuesday 22-Nov. Ron and Phil proposed a more extensive critique of the Guidebook's COI plan, but the scope of this comment is reacting to the Registry proposal for an alternative mechanism (COF). I would strongly suggest that Ron and Phil individually submit their concerns to ICANN, of course. Mike Palage advised us to be careful about conflicts of interest, so I propose a simple way to do this quickly and transparently: If any BC member objects to the BC filing the attached draft comment , please REPLY ALL and indicate your objection and reason. If any member objections are noted by midnight UTC on 1-Dec, we will extend the process and ask the membership to vote on alternate versions of BC comments. This would mean our comments are submitted late, but might still be considered. If no objections are noted we will post the attached draft to ICANN on the closing date of 2-Dec. Thanks again for engaging in this discussion. --Steve (vice chair for policy coordination) From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org<mailto:sdelbianco@actonline.org>> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:04:17 -0500 To: "'bc-GNSO@icann.org<mailto:'bc-GNSO@icann.org> GNSO list'" <bc-gnso@icann.org<mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org>> Subject: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Per discussion in Dakar and on our 10-Nov member call, here is a draft of BC comments on the a proposed alternative to the for Continuity Operations Instrument in the new gTLD Program. Jon Nevett prepared this draft. This comment period and docs are described here<https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/rysg-proposal-cof-17oct11-en.htm>. These comments are due 2-Dec, giving us 10 days for review and approval. This is less than the 14-day period required in our charter, so I am requesting an expedited review period. If any member has substantive objections to the expedited review, we can go to 14 days and submit our comments after the ICANN due date. All BC members are invited to suggest edits. Please use track changes and circulate to BC list. Thanks again to Jon for taking the lead on this. Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com> Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2102/4055 - Release Date: 12/03/11 ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com> Version: 10.0.1415 / Virus Database: 2102/4067 - Release Date: 12/08/11
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just noting that aI just sent a notice to list that having a small ICANN conf. bridge delay. please give Bene a fw min to resolve. will try to start call at 10 after/but may have a diff bridge from ICANN if they can't fix this problem.with apologies for delay. M From: psc@vlaw-dc.com To: mike@rodenbaugh.com; sdelbianco@netchoice.org; bc-gnso@icann.org Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] for discussion on 9-Dec call: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 14:56:13 +0000 Reaching back to 2007 GNSO Principles seems to me of little relevance to the present discussion. That was a year before the Board approved going forward with new gTLDs, and also before three succeeding years of multiple drafts of the Applicant Guidebook were considered and amended before the Final version was approved in Singapore. The Principles have long been supplanted by the requirements of the Guidebook. There will surely be other instances where deciding what is an implementation detail and what is substantive will be debatable. But in this case I think it’s pretty clear – COI is in the Guidebook, and COF is not a proposal for how best to implement COI but an entirely new and substitute approach for registrant protection in the event of registry failure (that in turn raises a host of other new issues related to a pooled insurance fund rather than individual registry letters of credit). I think it is clearly substantive, and that in turn raises the issue of whether and when we believe individual constituencies should be allowed to reopen substantive debate an Guidebook issues that appeared to be settled. Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of icann@rodenbaugh.com Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 12:42 AM To: 'Steve DelBianco'; 'Bc GNSO list ' Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] for discussion on 9-Dec call: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Yes. But as Phil says, the COI requirement was approved by the Board as part of the Guidebook, so presumably would take Board action to amend. Certainly would take Board action to adopt COF. I had thought there was going to be a Board meeting today with that on the agenda. Does anyone know if it happened and whether this was discussed? Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1.415.738.8087 http://rodenbaugh.com From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 7:50 PM To: 'Bc GNSO list ' Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] for discussion on 9-Dec call: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Good point, Mike. In the 2007 Principles I found these two relevant items: A set of capability criteria for a new gTLD registry applicant must be used to provide an assurance that an applicant has the capability to meets its obligations under the terms of ICANN’s registry agreement. Applicants must be able to demonstrate their financial and organisational operational capability. If that's all GNSO said about it, wouldn't we conclude that the Continuity of Operations instrument is an implementation detail? --Steve From: Mike Rodenbaugh <icann@rodenbaugh.com> Organization: Rodenbaugh Law Reply-To: <mike@rodenbaugh.com> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 19:13:57 -0800 To: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org>, 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] for discussion on 9-Dec call: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Thanks Steve. How does the COF tie back to the original principles that were agreed by the Council and the Board by supermajority? If not specifically required in those principles, then by definition it is an implementation detail… albeit a big one. From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 6:35 PM To: 'Bc GNSO list ' Subject: [bc-gnso] for discussion on 9-Dec call: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) On 3-Dec I circulated Draft 2 of the BC comment on the registries' proposal for a Continuity of Operations Fund. This week, Sarah Deutsch offered some clarifying edits. In his note (below) Phil Corwin argues against describing the COF as an implementation detail (see Phil's argument below). I believe Phil's requested change merits a brief discussion during tomorrow's BC member call. (see Draft 3 attached) These comments were due one week ago so let's try to close this topic tomorrow. --Steve From: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:22:33 +0000 To: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org>, 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: RE: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Steve: I believe that this document is much improved and have no objection to it. In particular, I appreciate the fact that the document no longer states that the BC plans to file a letter advocating additional changes to the new gTLD program’s trademark protection requirements – a subject that will first be discussed among BC members in the upcoming conference call scheduled for Friday, December 9. However, I would like to propose that the comment be strengthened. In that regard, I would propose that the sentence in point #2 that presently reads “We are not supportive of the approach presented by the Registry Constituency. “ should be altered to state “We oppose the approach presented by the Registry Constituency”. I am also concerned by the last sentence in the first paragraph of the background section – “The BC notes this new approach to considering potential improvements in implementation details for the new gTLD Program and provides comments on this topic.” This seems to concede that the Registry Constituency’s COF proposal is a mere implementation detail when, in fact, I believe it would be a significant substantive change in the new gTLD program that goes far beyond an implementation detail. The Registry Constituency was well aware of the COI requirement before the Board approved the new gTLD program in Singapore, and if registries had significant concerns with it they should gave raised them before the Board vote rather than urging a “yes” vote on the AG then before the Board. I would propose that the sentence be changed to reflect a BC position that COF is far more than an implementation detail and is not properly on the table at all. As previously stated, I have significant doubts about ICANN’s ability to effectively implement a COF approach because other industry-wide shared risk insurance pools -- such as, in the U.S., the FCIC, SIPC, and state insurance funds – require a supportive structure of pervasive regulation to ameliorate the moral hazard that inevitably arises when an industry participant can shift the consequences of its risk-taking to others. I do not believe it would be proper for ICANN to assume such a role – nor am I confident it could successfully undertake it, given continuing concerns regarding its ability to effectively enforce its bilateral contracts with registries. Also, as the BC statement notes, a COI offers substantially greater prospects for registrant protection in the event of a registry failure. But the issue is much larger than whether the COF proposal has merit. The issue is whether it is properly on the table at all – the issue, in fact, is what should be the proper means going forward to consider significant substantive changes in the new gTLD program (as distinct from addressing implementation details of the current requirements reflected in the Applicant Guidebook and standard registry contract). Here’s my problem – we constantly refer to and support ICANN’s multi-stakeholder policy-making process – but the word “process” implies a standard undertaking with a beginning, middle, and end, at the end of which things are settled for at least some reasonable amount of time. If ICANN had never been spun out of the Commerce Department it would be a government agency and its rulemaking process would be under the Administrative Procedures Act. The APA provides a well-understood process – there is an advance notice of proposed rulemaking which solicits initial comments, then there is promulgation of a proposed rule which solicits further comments, then there may even be one or two more publications of an altered rule reflecting the comments received (and along the way there may have been one or more public hearings to solicit oral input) – but in the end there is a Final Rule and it is really final, and the grounds for judicial challenge of that Rule are well understood and quite narrow. Now it may be proper for the ICANN process to be more flexible than that – but in the end it should produce a result with a reasonable degree of finality. We all have concerns about various aspects of the final Applicant Guidebook, even though the process of developing it took three years and at various points had a make-it-up-as-you-go-along procedural quality . But if any constituency can propose major changes to the AG just months after its adoption by the Board – and COF, again, appears to be a major substantive departure from COI, not a mere implementation detail – then the ICANN process is never final at all, nothing is ever settled for even a brief interval. That is really no process at all because it provides no reliable finality. And that in turn, in my opinion, raises further questions about ICANN’s overall credibility as an organization. There’s also a need to move on from the new gTLD program (aside from monitoring its launch and fleshing out details of its implementation) and engage on to the many other substantive issues challenging ICANN. If the Registries can advocate COF, and if any other Constituency can also propose major substantive changes in the program, then we are going to be back into the same disputes that were the focus of discussion of three years and that will be a major distraction from other pressing issues. Each of us has only so much personal bandwidth to devote to ICANN policy matters. To make clear, I have no problem with further refining the COI, such as considering lower financial commitments based on registry type or experience, as these seem to be legitimate implementation details. Summing up, I propose that: · The BC change its position on COF from “Not supportive of” to “opposes”. · The BC take the position that COF is a significant AG substantive change and proposed replacement for COI, and therefore not an implementation detail of COI. · The BC engage in a constituency discussion of when and under what procedures significant substantive changes in the new gTLD program – as opposed to mere implementation of the program as approved by the Board – can properly be put on the table for consideration, as well as what the process and standard should be for considering and incorporating them. Regards to all, Philip From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 5:29 PM To: 'Bc GNSO list ' Subject: [bc-gnso] Re: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Rapporteur Jon Nevett incorporated Marilyn's edits into the attached DRAFT 2. I also adjusted the opening section to address a concern expressed by Phil Corwin today: The BC notes this new approach to considering potential improvements in implementation details for the new gTLD Program and provides comments on this topic. Also attached is a redline comparing draft 1 and 2. If any BC member objects to the BC filing this Draft 2 comment , please REPLY ALL and explain your objections. If any member objections are noted by midnight UTC on 7-Dec, we will ask the membership to vote on the comments. If no objections are noted, we will post the attached draft to ICANN on 9-Dec. Thanks to Marilyn and Jon for their work on these comments. From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 22:43:19 -0500 To: 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: FW: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Last night, Marilyn Cade submitted extensive edits to our draft comments on the Continuity of Operations Fund proposal from the Registries. See second attachment and Marilyn's summary of her comments below. Per the plan I sent this week, we will now allow 7 additional days of review time, with a target date to submit by next Friday 9-Dec. That would make us just one week late for ICANN's comment deadline. Rapporteur Jon Nevett will take first look at Marilyn's edits and will circulate a new version over the weekend. From: marilynscade@hotmail.com To: bcprivate@icann.org Subject: IMPORTANT: SEE PROPOSED CHANGES/EDITS IN THE BC DRAFT: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:49:10 -0500 I propose several changes and an enhancement about why the BC cares about this topic, and also note that we would like similar opportunity to achieve changes in the new gTLD program -- regarding IPR protections. I will send a separate email about that topic, based on discussions with Steve, Sarah, and others about the existing call for improvements in that area. [Separate email]. My comments are as an individual member of the BC on this BC position statement. The changes I propose to this draft are consistent with BC's positions regarding priority of protecting registrants and users. See 2, where I added ICANN's responsibiilty to act in the public interest. 3. I explicitly stated that we do not support the Regy proposal. That was missing from our statement. I also said that improvements could be made in the COI. See 4. 5. I also added in that the BC fears a high risk of failure of some of the new gTLDs. 6. I added that we expect there to be appropriate legal agreements in the contracts that would allow for the protection of registered names. I deleted the old 7, which seemed to say on the one hand, and then on the other hand. The purpose of this statement is to either support the Registry proposal, or oppose it. I oppose it, for the reasons I noted in my edits. I do think that COI can be improved, especially as it regards 'brands' gTLDs. I was also concerned in reading the transcript of the actual panel in Dakar -- I was not able to attend in person -- the panel looked heavily stacked toward supporters of the new gTLD program. However, the important news may be that if ICANN will accept suggested changes form a single constituency, we should be aggressively be addressing our call for changes in Trademark protection. Marilyn Cade From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:29:48 -0500 To: 'Bc GNSO list ' <bc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: FW: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Thanks to all for engaging in the email discussion over these comments. However, I don't think we've seen any specific edits on the draft circulated last Tuesday 22-Nov. Ron and Phil proposed a more extensive critique of the Guidebook's COI plan, but the scope of this comment is reacting to the Registry proposal for an alternative mechanism (COF). I would strongly suggest that Ron and Phil individually submit their concerns to ICANN, of course. Mike Palage advised us to be careful about conflicts of interest, so I propose a simple way to do this quickly and transparently: If any BC member objects to the BC filing the attached draft comment , please REPLY ALL and indicate your objection and reason. If any member objections are noted by midnight UTC on 1-Dec, we will extend the process and ask the membership to vote on alternate versions of BC comments. This would mean our comments are submitted late, but might still be considered. If no objections are noted we will post the attached draft to ICANN on the closing date of 2-Dec. Thanks again for engaging in this discussion. --Steve (vice chair for policy coordination) From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@actonline.org> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:04:17 -0500 To: "'bc-GNSO@icann.org GNSO list'" <bc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI) Per discussion in Dakar and on our 10-Nov member call, here is a draft of BC comments on the a proposed alternative to the for Continuity Operations Instrument in the new gTLD Program. Jon Nevett prepared this draft. This comment period and docs are described here. These comments are due 2-Dec, giving us 10 days for review and approval. This is less than the 14-day period required in our charter, so I am requesting an expedited review period. If any member has substantive objections to the expedited review, we can go to 14 days and submit our comments after the ICANN due date. All BC members are invited to suggest edits. Please use track changes and circulate to BC list. Thanks again to Jon for taking the lead on this. Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2102/4055 - Release Date: 12/03/11 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1415 / Virus Database: 2102/4067 - Release Date: 12/08/11
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ICANN has an open public comment on a roadmap for development and adoption of a successor to the Whois protocol. The comment period and documents are described here<http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/sac-051-draft-roadmap-18feb12-en.htm>. BC member Bill Smith (Paypal) circulated his initial thoughts on a BC comment back on 6-Mar. At our Costa Rica meeting we discussed Bill's draft and asked for volunteers to refine into a BC submission. Everyone's been pretty busy lately, so this task fell to me and I've only now turned to it. A 2-page draft BC comment is attached. These comments are due 8-Apr. Bill's comments went to the BC list on 6-Mar, but the attached draft is presented to you with for expedited member review over the next 5 days. If any BC member objects to the BC filing the attached draft comment , please REPLY ALL and indicate your objection and reason. If any member objections are noted before 8-Apr, we will extend the review period. This would mean our comments are submitted late, but might still be considered. If no objections are noted we will post the attached draft to ICANN on the closing date of 8-Apr. Thanks again to Bill Smith for taking the lead on this. Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC
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ICANN has an open public comment on the draft report from the review team looking at Security, Stability and Resiliency of the DNS (SSR-RT). The comment period and documents are described here<http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ssrt-draft-report-15mar12-en.htm>. Marilyn Cade has drafted BC comments, with help from Jeff Brueggeman (who is on the SSR review team), and from Scott McCormick and Angie Graves. Steve DelBianco edited this draft. (attached) Initial comments were due 16-April and reply comments are due 7-May. We are requesting an expedited review so that our initial comments can be filed soon after the 16-April due date for initial comments. If any BC member objects to the BC filing the attached draft comment, please REPLY ALL and indicate your objection and reason. If any member objections are noted before 20-April, we will extend the review period. If no objections are noted we will post the attached draft to ICANN on 21-April. Thanks again to Marilyn Cade for taking the lead on this draft. Note: When we submit these comments, we will once again point out that ICANN's new bifurcated comment process does not allow enough time for initial comments: These are initial comments of the BC on this draft report, which we acknowledge filing during the portion of comment period designated for reply comments. While the BC supports a two-part comment period, we are finding that the time for initial comments should be lengthened. In addition, we believe that comment periods should be extended whenever an ICANN public meeting occurs during the comment period. Public meetings require intense participation for several a days, leaving little time to prepare public comments. A simple solution would be to add 7 days to any public comment period that includes dates of an ICANN public meeting. Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC
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RNA Partners supports the draft. Thanks to all who prepared and contributed to it. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff RNA Partners, Inc. _____ From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:59 AM To: bc - GNSO list Subject: [bc-gnso] for expedited review: BC comment on draft report of SSR Review Team ICANN has an open public comment on the draft report from the review team looking at Security, Stability and Resiliency of the DNS (SSR-RT). The comment period and documents are described here <http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ssrt-draft-report-15mar12-en.ht m> . Marilyn Cade has drafted BC comments, with help from Jeff Brueggeman (who is on the SSR review team), and from Scott McCormick and Angie Graves. Steve DelBianco edited this draft. (attached) Initial comments were due 16-April and reply comments are due 7-May. We are requesting an expedited review so that our initial comments can be filed soon after the 16-April due date for initial comments. If any BC member objects to the BC filing the attached draft comment, please REPLY ALL and indicate your objection and reason. If any member objections are noted before 20-April, we will extend the review period. If no objections are noted we will post the attached draft to ICANN on 21-April. Thanks again to Marilyn Cade for taking the lead on this draft. Note: When we submit these comments, we will once again point out that ICANN's new bifurcated comment process does not allow enough time for initial comments: These are initial comments of the BC on this draft report, which we acknowledge filing during the portion of comment period designated for reply comments. While the BC supports a two-part comment period, we are finding that the time for initial comments should be lengthened. In addition, we believe that comment periods should be extended whenever an ICANN public meeting occurs during the comment period. Public meetings require intense participation for several a days, leaving little time to prepare public comments. A simple solution would be to add 7 days to any public comment period that includes dates of an ICANN public meeting. Steve DelBianco vice chair for policy coordination, BC
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Jon Nevett
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Marilyn Cade
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Michael D. Palage
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Mike O'Connor
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Phil Corwin
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Ron Andruff
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Steve DelBianco