This all makes sense.

And just to be clear, I'm not suggesting that SME vs. large company isn't important as an issue, only asking if we want to address it as part of the same comment or part of a separate comment given John Berard's intervention.

Thanks, A
From: Marilyn Cade [marilynscade@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 10:14 AM
To: Steve DelBianco; amack; Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts; Jimson Olufuye
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Subject: Re: [Bc-outreach] thoughts on language

Andrew, and others regarding a call: it would have to be Monday, as I start traveling to CSTD Intercessional and CSTD WG EC [as does Jimson] next week.


The J'burg meeting -- let's hear from Jimson re S.Africa as an opportunity, given that AfiCTA has presence via the ICT association. As that meeting is a four day meeting devoted to policy, we would have to give some specific development to outreach.


I had already posted regarding outreach in Latin America as a priority, and suggested that we might even try to build out around the NRIs and LACIGF.


M



From: bc-outreach-bounces@icann.org <bc-outreach-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 9:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [Bc-outreach] thoughts on language
 
Thanks, and let’s discuss your proposed approach on tomorrow’s BC Member call.  

From: Andrew Mack <amack@amglobal.com>
Date: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 9:54 AM
To: Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts <icann@microboss.org>, Jimson Olufuye <jolufuye@kontemporary.net>
Cc: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org>, "bc-outreach@icann.org" <bc-outreach@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [Bc-outreach] thoughts on language

All,

Just catching up after clients in town and the long MLK weekend.

1.  Thanks Marilyn and Jimson for valuable inputs.  Jimson, your piece is
excellent.  Marilyn, agree that we should move away from thinking of
responding directly to AfNIC.  Just want to make sure we do flag their
issue.

2.  Lawrence, I do agree that airing our internal differences on the
comment is likely not the best way to go, but there we are.

3.  With regard to this, I think we might make our best contribution by
taking out the section on small business and dealing with this issue
separately.  While business size is a kind of diversity, the diversity I
believe the community is most concerned with now is geographic and gender.
Welcome your thoughts, but it might be better dealt with separately.

4.  In terms of the where for our outreach in 2017, I feel strongly that
we should do something in South Africa to coincide with ICANN (a big
business market where we¹ve historically had no membership) and Latin
America this year as promised, ideally targeting a larger market like
Mexico, Colombia or Brazil where any BC members can find lots of potential
friends they could introduce us to.  The experience in India (which netted
us a number of applications) and our ongoing success in Nigeria strike me
as good models ‹ developing a regional hub where we can begin to develop
critical mass for BC efforts.

Would everyone be amenable to an Outreach Team call early next week to
discuss and finalize our comments?

Cheers, Andrew

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On 1/16/17, 11:49 AM, "Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts" <icann@microboss.org>
wrote:

Thanks Jimson for your time and views on this. I did read John Berard's
comments and i strongly suspect that there might be some more of such
comments on various issues from our colleagues in the BC in the coming
days.

Where BC members strongly air their views on why the charter should not be
passed, that may punch a hole in the credibility of our submission if we
collectively resolve to submit this comment as one representing the views
of the BC.

It is my opinion that the outreach committee go ahead to post a comment
aimed at creating a balance on the submission made by Afnic (without
mentioning them) as it bothers around the work of the committee, whilst
interested BC members or the credentials committee help draft a position
to counter John's view if we so desire.

LoR


On Mon, January 16, 2017 8:27 am, Jimson Olufuye wrote:
Hi Lawrence,


Item 3.0 Removing Barrier to Small Business Membership was left there
for
the Charter drafting team to incorporate their response to John Berard's
public comment (did you read that?). Also, my thinking is not to have an
exclusive BC Outreach Comment but a general comment submitted by the BC
covering all the scope of comments made now and that would come before
the close of public comments on the Charter.

If that is ok, then you may need to re-edit the draft you edited.


Cheers,


JO
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Subject: Re: [Bc-outreach] thoughts on language
From: "Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts" <icann@microboss.org>
Date: 1/16/17 6:05 am
To: "Marilyn Cade" <marilynscade@hotmail.com>
Cc: "Jimson Olufuye" <jolufuye@kontemporary.net>, "Steve DelBianco"


Dear Andrew, Marylin and Jimson,


I have made an attempt here to merge all your submissions on the draft
charter into one and included mine into a version 1, herein attached.

Using Jimson's comment as the base, i have tried to inculcate Andrew,
Marylin and my comment into one document that still appears too bulky to
pass for a final.

I suggest we remove the graphs that show BC members by Numbers and
percentage except they could be made clearer any other point we find
unnecessary.

looking forward to our comments on this.

LOR



On Sat, January 14, 2017 3:13 pm, Marilyn Cade wrote:

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