However, Andrew, we have a senior BC member already speaking and engaging. 


I do not support sending a second "ranger" to this event. 


We need to be focused on business user events and this is clearly as also the organizers have confirmed

a technical community event.


Marilyn






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All,

Given that we have the resources, this is a modest proposal, and the fact
that this does seem like a large gathering, I am inclined to say yes to
this one.  The outlay is limited and a part of our success lies not just
in being visible but in being fairly consistently visible.

Letıs discuss on our call, but I appreciate Lawrenceıs enthusiasm and
desire to carry the BC flag and this looks like a worthwhile venue.

Thanks, Andrew

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On 5/13/17, 8:15 AM, "Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts" <icann@microboss.org>
wrote:

>Dear Marylin,
>
>The African Internet Summit is a multi-stakeholder ICT conference and NOT
>an ISP event. Asides businesses, delegates to the conference are drawn
>from the academia, public sector, technical organizations, government
>institutions and civil society. Unarguably, this is one of the largest ICT
>conference on the Continent.
>
>Youıll agree also that Africa rates high in the list of regions that ICANN
>supports outreach interventions to, it is gradually becoming a region
>accounting for some balance in diversity within ICANN, hence advocacy
>efforts can't at this point be said to be too much. I am aware you have
>been passionate in seeking ICANNıs support for the BC in its outreach
>efforts in under-served  regions, we canıt go back now advocating that it
>is too much.
>
>Where there may be other BC members attending the summit, it is good for
>the business community as it promotes us as a strong voice which we should
> be in Africa. It would also encourage more businesses present to engage
>when they can be pointed to their peers who are already engaging within
>ICANN.  However they are not going there with an outreach mindset, neither
>would we measure their participation along established outputs aligned
>with BC outreach objectives. Right now I am the only one so far that has a
>proposal before the outreach committee to conduct outreach for the BC in
>Kenya. If there is any other we should review their proposals here.
>
>I will be in Kenya as a member of the business community, advocating for
>business, ICANN and engagement opportunities like the fellowship program
>which served as my point of entry into the community, asides having to
>facilitate a session on Start up Incubation and the Internet ­ a
>tremendous opportunity for engagement in my region.  Ultimately this
>conference and opportunity provide me a means to achieve all the
>objectives set out in my proposal which aligns with the outreach
>objectives of the BC.
>
>This is a report on the NCUC outreach at last yearıs edition of the
>conference:
>"The Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC) Outreach Session took place,
>chaired by Anriette Esterhuysen. This event introduced NCUC to
>organisations and individuals at the Africa Internet Summit. The session
>showcased some of its successes regarding policy making and impacting
>policy making within ICANN  through a series of brief introductions by the
>active members. The session also highlighted the importance of domain
>names related policies and how to participate effectively to voice African
>non-commercial users concerns".
>
>Where the NCUC considers the AIS a veritable ground  for outreach, the BC
>should have an equally strong justification to engage at the AIS.
>
>There may have some other members of the BC attending the meeting, but I
>am particularly interested in outreach that would lead to new membership,
>create more awareness for the BC and advocate support for small businesses
>on the continent through my session. This is the basis for requesting BC
>support and which I hope would be timely.
>
>Please accept the assurances of my warm regards,
>
>
>Lawrence Olawale-Roberts.
>
>
>On Thu, May 11, 2017 1:44 am, Marilyn Cade wrote:
>> just seeing this. I am sorry it is so late and I will review it but I am
>> at CSTD and one of only three non governmental negotiators on critical
>> language, so it may take rest of day. However, I am still asking why the
>> BC is sending a BC member to do recruitment in what is considered ISPCP
>> land -- and whether we will encounter what we have in the past -- a few
>> years ago - when we were accused of poaching members that belonged in
>>the
>> ISPCP.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, we have BC members in Kenya, and I am first interested in
>> understanding if they are participating and can distribute materials.
>>So,
>> at this point, I am thinking that I can't support this particular
>> proposal, but am interested in proposals that engage with actual
>>business
>> users.
>>
>>
>> Even those who attend this event are the engineers or DNS operators from
>> businesses, not the business user side.
>>
>>
>> [sorry, suffer from attending RIPE and ARIN conferences in the past! ]
>>
>>
>>
>> So, at this point, I am not supporting but I will look closely at the
>> rationale.
>>
>>
>> Can we verify if the Kenya based BC members are already attending? If
>>so,
>> they can distribute any BC materials.
>>
>>
>> Marilyn
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: bc-outreach-bounces@icann.org <bc-outreach-bounces@icann.org> on
>> behalf of Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts <icann@microboss.org> Sent: Tuesday,
>> May 9, 2017 4:08 AM
>> To: bc-outreach@icann.org
>> Cc: lawrence@microboss.org
>> Subject: [Bc-outreach] BC Outreach to Kenya.
>>
>>
>> Dear Outreach Members,
>>
>>
>> My apologies for not turning in this earlier as promised, there was a
>> need to review my earlier proposal so as to reduce the proposed cost for
>> the outreach after my consultations with Andrew early on friday.
>>
>> Please find attached my proposal for outreach to the Business community
>> that would be attending the African Internet Summit in Nairobi, Kenya.
>>The
>>  AIS is one of the biggest meeting on the continent because allows for
>> great collaboration among all stakeholders. It is co-hosted by Afrinic
>>(the
>> regional RIR) and AfNOG with Tespok as the local host for this year.
>> ICANN, ISOC, African IGF, AfricaCERT, AfTLD, AfREN and AfPIF are all
>> partners at this years event, with all bringing in a large mix of their
>> stakeholders to the meeting. over 1000 participants are expected in
>> Nairobi in May.
>>
>>
>> I will be actively participating at the conference, exploring the
>> business network for potential BC members who are a fit for our
>> constituency and looking forward to the approval of my BoF session on
>> "Start Up Incubation
>> and the Future of the Internet" during the conference.
>>
>> Thanks for your kind approval.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lawrence Olawale-Roberts.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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