Thank you Joanna. Happy to leave it in the CBWG teams capable hands.

M

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, 5:39 am Joanna Kulesza, <joannakulesza@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Abdulkarim, Maureen and all,

thank you for this thoughtful input. The ICANN Learn course is in the works. We're scheduled to have a call with our speakers this coming week. All of your thoughts and concerns will be shared. Jonathan is leading the work on CPWG policy development. I will be sure to share you thoughts with him and make sure they are well reflected in the course outline.

Thank you again,

Joanna

W dniu 07.04.2020 o 00:32, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE pisze:
Dear Maureen,
Thank you for this email. Only yesterday I was thinking of developing such a course for some group of people AFRALO members who wanted clarification on the At large public comment process. I think I now understand where some of the confusions were coming from.

 I think having such a module is important because it would help to improve participation from a lot of those who don't currently understand the process. Like you mentioned, when it comes to statement writing I believe the process we use is open and transparent but I must say it is quite complicated to understand especially for someone who does not have the time to attend CPWG or does not understand what CPWG does. Therefore I agree that an ICANN learn course on this is important. I have to thank Jonathan for personally taking me through the process a while ago as I must confess, It took me a while to understand it too and if not for Jonathan I might still be struggling it with. Having Jonathan to take everyone through it is impossible and having such module in fine details would help. 
 I would be happy to take a lead/work with any other person in putting together such a module as I believe it is very important.  I would also take a look at what NCUC has done and see how it can be improved. I would also discuss with Joanna and Alfredo in the next couple of days on how to move this forward

Thank you  

AK



On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, 06:48 Maureen Hilyard, <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Team

Has anyone looked at the current ICANN Learn Policy writing course which was developed by NCUC? It definitely highlighted an approach that was quite different from our own. I was quite disappointed because I don't think that it is useful in addressing the more inclusive fact-gathering, consensus model of developing a statement that we use in At-Large and particularly by the CPWG.  This process would be appropriate for a policy or a non-policy issue.  

But there was a good section that explained the purpose of the Public Comment. 

From an At-Large point of view, I wondered if our CB team could ensure that an At-Large "public comment" course might focus more on the methodology that is used by the CPWG where much time is spent on:

* participants from across the array of backgrounds within At-Large offering their views after analysing the purpose of the request and the resource material around the topic to sort out how a particular policy is relevant to our section of ICANN - end-users

* herding the discussions in a way that gathers information while at the same time tries to balance the various end-user perspectives into a cohesive argument - this is an important task requiring some major skills, for example: 

1) great moderation skills which are demonstrated well by Jonathan and Olivier  esp keeping participant contributions focused, relevant and non-repetitive

2) seeking views from within the group from people who have the appropriate level of knowledge and can articulate their views in such a way that others can support or add further perspectives which might capture a more directed approach to a statement that fits the enduser point of view

3)  From among the many articulated views which have been captured by an initial penholder or penholders, a small group may start moulding the various perspectives  into a logical argument that will form the basis of a consensus end-user viewpoint 
 
4) The draft statement is then presented to the CPWG for further discussion and fine-tuning, to create a final statement. Several iterations of this process may be required before the statement is complete.

* While developing the course it might be appropriate to offer some examples of what each stage might entail, during the process of information gathering, putting it into a presentation (or a series of presentations) to collate all the different ideas and perspectives, then finalising the statement. .

5) One constraint on this process is the restrictive timeframe given by the requestors with regards to the time allowed for this important discussion, especially if it is of greater importance to the end-user community. This has required single topic sessions on top of the already assigned weekly sessions. This is a big commitment for volunteers. 

6) ICANN staff complete the statement document in preparation for its delivery to the requestors of the comments, before ratification by the ALAC.

M
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