Hi Niels, I agree with Bill that it is not an either/or, but I definitely believe it is important to be in the subgroup discussing the language from the outset. The list has been created a couple of days ago and so far the subgroup has exchanged general views mostly making the point that the text should not be over-comprehensive. A possible f2f meeting in Dublin is also being discussed.

I was told that it is necessary to join the CCWG on accountability mailing list and from there request to join the WG, but others may confirm. 

Two days ago, the names below were the members of the WG, but I guess there may be more at this point.

Leon Sanchez

·  Mathieu Weill

·  Thomas Rickert

·  Avri Doria

·  Robin Gross

·  Nigel Roberts

·  Eberhard Lisse

·  Matthew Shears

·  David McAuley

·  Greg Shatan

·  Paul Twomey

·  Jorge Cancio

·  Seun Ojedeji

·  Jordan Carter

·  Stephanie Perrin

·  David Einhorn

·  Kavouss Arasteh

·  Olga Cavalli

·  Rafik Dammak

·  Suzanne Radell

·  Phil Buckingham

·  Martin Boyle

·  Marilia Maciel

·  Markus Kummer

·  Marilyn Cade

·  Samantha Eisner


Best!

Marília


On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 4:30 AM, William Drake <wjdrake@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Aug 5, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Niels ten Oever <niels@article19.org> wrote:
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> Hi James and others,
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> What would be the rationale for a public comment vs participating in
> the subgroup? Just trying to assess the best strategy for engagement.

It needn’t be either/or, you could work out a proposal here and then take it into the subgroup and indicate this is how the hard core HR folks have been thinking about this.  From there you’ll get the push back, modifications, etc, but at least the initial framing will be on the table. Whereas if you just start in the subgroup you could get derailed early on by the push back and a clean formulation won’t have been on the table.

two cents

BD



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