Hi all and thanks for the suggestions as well - Seems Wednesday at 9.30 may
be least worst option  ....
Perhaps we should also be willing to consider a slightly shorter session if
that helps with scheduling (eg to reduce to 2 or 2.5 hours)
Joy

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Hi all,

For your reference, the ICANN51 schedule:
http://la51.icann.org/en/schedule-full

Monday afternoon is risky because it might overlap with ICANN accountability
discussions, updates on new gTLDs, etc.

Wednesday morning is risky because of the CCWG on Internet Governance.
But since the latter is from 8:30 - 9:45, if we start at 9:30, we should be
OK with a slow start. Will you keep the same time for Singapore for this
workshop Bill ?

If so, I'd go for Wednesday morning.

Best,

Niels


Niels ten Oever
Head of Digital

Article 19
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On 12/05/2014 04:06 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I meant checking quickly if there are other sessions (e.g. checking
> schedules in previous ICANN meetings or if someone is aware about new
> session) to mitigate risks of clashes, after submission we cannot
> request changes.
>
> Rafik
>
> 2014-12-05 23:39 GMT+09:00 Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel@gmail.com
>  <mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com>>:
>
> Yes, I meant Wednesday. Thanks for the correction Niels. Although
> Olivier mentioned that Monday afternoon is not blocked..
>
> Considering the meeting will always clash with something else, a
> 3-hour session could be strategic to allow people to join us at some
> moment. We could even explicitly divide the session in "part 1" and
> "part 2", so people that could come (although late) do not feel they
> missed too much and still feel encouraged to attend. Of course, this
> is besides the fact that we do have a lot of substantive topics to
> discuss. I understand Rafik´s point, but maybe we should try to push
> for the three hours.
>
> Rafik, do you suggest we wait to book the room, so we coordinate with
> other sessions being scheduled? Isn´t it dangerous in terms of
> securing a room for us? I think it is better to have it scheduled as
> soon as possible. If something substantial changes on the agenda we
> re-evaluate.
>
> Best,
>
> Marília
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com
> <mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi ,
>
> I think we should see the different SO/AC  sessions ( we have also the
> CCWG on IG session too!) and find some possible time slot.
>
> 3 hours is long and not necessarily easy to secure room (while we
> could do that in London for a different topic , not sure we can
> reiterate that).
>
> Rafik
>
> 2014-12-05 22:59 GMT+09:00 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com
> <mailto:ocl@gih.com>>:
>
> Hello all,
>
> it is possible to program for Monday afternoon. They frown upon it
> because that takes people out of the main room but the ALAC and other
> WGs have staged meetings on Monday afternoon with little interference.
> One of the problems is that by killing Fridays the week has become
> shorter and with the Thursday circus Thursday is now dead. With Monday
> risking being filled by the circus too we have Tuesday which is
> impossible due to Constituency day. But guess what, I'm now told some
> parts of Constituency day might happen on Wednesday morning too. So
> Wednesday afternoon? Oh now, that's GNSO wrap up. <sigh>
>
> Olivier
>
>
> On 05/12/2014 14:41, William Drake wrote:
>> you can’t program on Monday, they block it out for official stuff
>> they think is more important.
>>
>> I’d ask for Wednesday morning.
>>
>> BD
>>
>>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Niels ten Oever<niels@article19.org>
>>> <mailto:niels@article19.org> wrote:
>>>
>> Hi Rafik,
>>
>> You're right. Tuesday is constituency day, so that is ruled out.
>> Can we do Monday afternoon 13:30 - 16:30 ?
>>
>> I also found in the archives we agreed earlier on a three hour
>> meeting, so let's go for that.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Niels
>>
>>
>> Niels ten Oever Head of Digital
>>
>> Article 19 www.article19.org <http://www.article19.org>
>>
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>> 68E9
>>
>> On 12/05/2014 02:17 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>>> Hi Niels,
>>>>>
>>>>> Wednesday afternoon has the GNSO council public meeting and we had
>>>>> such conflict last time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-12-05 22:07 GMT+09:00 Niels ten Oever
>> <niels@article19.org <mailto:niels@article19.org>
>>>>> <mailto:niels@article19.org>
>>>>> <mailto:niels@article19.org>>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/04/2014 06:24 PM, Rafik wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Niels,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rafik,
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not senior within ICANN
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, at least more senior than me ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>> but I guess I can help for this.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's excellent. I think we agreed on a session on Wednesday
>>>>> afternoon, as per Bills proposal. I think two hours would
>> suffice.
>>>>> Three hours seems a but like a an overkill (even though I know we
>>>>> could easily fill it).
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you people think?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Niels
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 5 Dec 2014 à 02:20, Niels ten Oever <niels@article19.org
>> <mailto:niels@article19.org>
>>>>>> <mailto:niels@article19.org>
>>>>>> <mailto:niels@article19.org>> a
>> écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems there is consensus about the text for the session at
>>>>>> ICANN52, or does anyone have any issues with this text? All
>>>>>> comments are very welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>>> _________
>>>>>
>>>>>> Human right and ICANN - continuing the conversation
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a growing recognition in parts of the community that
>>>>>> some of ICANN’s policies and other actions may have implications
>>>>>> for human rights like freedom of expression and the right to
>>>>>> privacy. While ICANN is not the place to negotiate over such
>>>>>> rights, it would be advisable on political and other grounds to
>>>>>> assess whether our work is fully consistent with internationally
>>>>>> agreed human rights laws and policies, and to identify possible
>>>>>> methods for addressing any incompatibilities.
>>>>>
>>>>>> To date, these issues have been discussed on a case by case
>>>>>> basis. This cross-community workshop will consider options for
>>>>>> starting a process that could address them in a more systemic
>>>>>> manner.
>>>>>
>>>>>> ________
>>>>>
>>>>>> What would be the process to request the room? I would be happy
>>>>>> to send some emails, but given the experiences during last ICANN
>>>>>> meeting it might be more effective if someone more senior in the
>>>>>> ICANN hierarchy would send it.
>>>>>> Any takers?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>
>>>>>> Niels
>>>>>
>>>>>
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