CCWP Meeting: This Thursday!
Hi all, Time flies! Our next scheduled call for the CCWP on Human Rights is this Thursday, 03 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC. I'm attaching our proposed agenda below. Please don't hesitate to let us know if there's anything else you would like to discuss. Best, Michael and Collin --------- *Proposed Agenda: CCWP on Human Rights Meeting* *3 May 2018: 1400 UTC* · Updates o Website o ICANN org HRIA o HRIA GNSO model · GDPR - Expedited PDP? · ICANN’s HRIA with Löning · Human rights PDP paper · AOB
Hi what is the intended content of the GDPR topic? On 1 May 2018, at 22:24, Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas@gmail.com<mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi all, Time flies! Our next scheduled call for the CCWP on Human Rights is this Thursday, 03 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC. I'm attaching our proposed agenda below. Please don't hesitate to let us know if there's anything else you would like to discuss. Best, Michael and Collin --------- Proposed Agenda: CCWP on Human Rights Meeting 3 May 2018: 1400 UTC · Updates o Website o ICANN org HRIA o HRIA GNSO model · GDPR - Expedited PDP? · ICANN’s HRIA with Löning · Human rights PDP paper · AOB _______________________________________________ cc-humanrights mailing list cc-humanrights@icann.org<mailto:cc-humanrights@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-humanrights
Hi James, There was mention on the [Accred-Model] list of an “expedited PDP” to define the GDPR interim compliance model. If this comes to pass, the process would benefit from the inclusion of an impact assessment, either specific to privacy or preferably to human rights more broadly. Stephanie Perrin and a couple others suggested this in San Juan. This would also be a good opportunity to test drive compliance models or mechanisms that could be applied to standard, non-expedited PDPs once the human rights core value comes into effect. Hope to see you on the call tomorrow! Best, Collin
On May 1, 2018, at 21:58, James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net> wrote:
Hi what is the intended content of the GDPR topic?
On 1 May 2018, at 22:24, Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Time flies! Our next scheduled call for the CCWP on Human Rights is this Thursday, 03 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC.
I'm attaching our proposed agenda below. Please don't hesitate to let us know if there's anything else you would like to discuss.
Best,
Michael and Collin
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Proposed Agenda: CCWP on Human Rights Meeting 3 May 2018: 1400 UTC
· Updates o Website o ICANN org HRIA o HRIA GNSO model · GDPR - Expedited PDP? · ICANN’s HRIA with Löning · Human rights PDP paper · AOB
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The Expedited PDP model is a much abbreviated version of the normal PDP process, and it specifically does NOT include the steps involving as Issue Report, which is how an initial impact assessment performed by staff/contractors would be incorporated into the process. For an expedited PDP, we would need to work out a separate process for incorporating an impact assessment - and given the seriously urgency of completion of the EPDP (by ICANN standards, anyway) it is very unlikely that an initial Issue Report stage is likely to happen, as it would add months of time to process. If we want an impact assessment to happen, we need to start making the board aware of that as soon as we can, and we probably, realistically, need to be thinking about a practical way in which that impact assessment can be dealt with in parallel to the main EPDP process, rather than preceding it as a normal PDP Issue Report would. Though a privacy impact assessment for the GDPR process seems somewhat redundant, there may be other rights we should be looking at. David
On 2 May 2018, at 3:59 pm, Collin Kurre <collin@article19.org> wrote:
Hi James,
There was mention on the [Accred-Model] list of an “expedited PDP” to define the GDPR interim compliance model. If this comes to pass, the process would benefit from the inclusion of an impact assessment, either specific to privacy or preferably to human rights more broadly. Stephanie Perrin and a couple others suggested this in San Juan.
This would also be a good opportunity to test drive compliance models or mechanisms that could be applied to standard, non-expedited PDPs once the human rights core value comes into effect.
Hope to see you on the call tomorrow!
Best, Collin
On May 1, 2018, at 21:58, James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net <mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net>> wrote:
Hi what is the intended content of the GDPR topic?
On 1 May 2018, at 22:24, Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas@gmail.com <mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi all,
Time flies! Our next scheduled call for the CCWP on Human Rights is this Thursday, 03 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC.
I'm attaching our proposed agenda below. Please don't hesitate to let us know if there's anything else you would like to discuss.
Best,
Michael and Collin
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Proposed Agenda: CCWP on Human Rights Meeting 3 May 2018: 1400 UTC
· Updates o Website o ICANN org HRIA o HRIA GNSO model · GDPR - Expedited PDP? · ICANN’s HRIA with Löning · Human rights PDP paper · AOB
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David Yeah – I’m glad you mentioned that. Logistically there is simply no way to add to an ePDP and maintain any hope of completing the process within the 12 months. As things stand we’re only a few weeks away from the May 25th deadline and we still haven’t seen the language of the temporary policy or other animal that ICANN is going to use. The GNSO Council will probably have to initiate the ePDP and we don’t know what exactly we’re being asked to do (yet). So much fun! Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: cc-humanrights <cc-humanrights-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of David Cake <dave@davecake.net> Date: Wednesday 2 May 2018 at 09:54 To: Collin Kurre <collin@article19.org> Cc: Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas@gmail.com>, "cc-humanrights@icann.org" <cc-humanrights@icann.org> Subject: Re: [cc-humanrights] CCWP Meeting: This Thursday! The Expedited PDP model is a much abbreviated version of the normal PDP process, and it specifically does NOT include the steps involving as Issue Report, which is how an initial impact assessment performed by staff/contractors would be incorporated into the process. For an expedited PDP, we would need to work out a separate process for incorporating an impact assessment - and given the seriously urgency of completion of the EPDP (by ICANN standards, anyway) it is very unlikely that an initial Issue Report stage is likely to happen, as it would add months of time to process. If we want an impact assessment to happen, we need to start making the board aware of that as soon as we can, and we probably, realistically, need to be thinking about a practical way in which that impact assessment can be dealt with in parallel to the main EPDP process, rather than preceding it as a normal PDP Issue Report would. Though a privacy impact assessment for the GDPR process seems somewhat redundant, there may be other rights we should be looking at. David On 2 May 2018, at 3:59 pm, Collin Kurre <collin@article19.org<mailto:collin@article19.org>> wrote: Hi James, There was mention on the [Accred-Model] list of an “expedited PDP” to define the GDPR interim compliance model. If this comes to pass, the process would benefit from the inclusion of an impact assessment, either specific to privacy or preferably to human rights more broadly. Stephanie Perrin and a couple others suggested this in San Juan. This would also be a good opportunity to test drive compliance models or mechanisms that could be applied to standard, non-expedited PDPs once the human rights core value comes into effect. Hope to see you on the call tomorrow! Best, Collin On May 1, 2018, at 21:58, James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net>> wrote: Hi what is the intended content of the GDPR topic? On 1 May 2018, at 22:24, Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas@gmail.com<mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi all, Time flies! Our next scheduled call for the CCWP on Human Rights is this Thursday, 03 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC. I'm attaching our proposed agenda below. Please don't hesitate to let us know if there's anything else you would like to discuss. Best, Michael and Collin --------- Proposed Agenda: CCWP on Human Rights Meeting 3 May 2018: 1400 UTC · Updates o Website o ICANN org HRIA o HRIA GNSO model · GDPR - Expedited PDP? · ICANN’s HRIA with Löning · Human rights PDP paper · AOB _______________________________________________ cc-humanrights mailing list cc-humanrights@icann.org<mailto:cc-humanrights@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-humanrights _______________________________________________ cc-humanrights mailing list cc-humanrights@icann.org<mailto:cc-humanrights@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-humanrights _______________________________________________ cc-humanrights mailing list cc-humanrights@icann.org<mailto:cc-humanrights@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-humanrights
Hi Michele, indeed there are several aspects to work out and this under a tight timeline. Best, Rafik Le mer. 2 mai 2018 à 19:16, Michele Neylon - Blacknight < michele@blacknight.com> a écrit :
David
Yeah – I’m glad you mentioned that.
Logistically there is simply no way to add to an ePDP and maintain any hope of completing the process within the 12 months.
As things stand we’re only a few weeks away from the May 25th deadline and we still haven’t seen the language of the temporary policy or other animal that ICANN is going to use.
The GNSO Council will probably have to initiate the ePDP and we don’t know what exactly we’re being asked to do (yet).
So much fun!
Regards
Michele
--
Mr Michele Neylon
Blacknight Solutions
Hosting, Colocation & Domains
Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072
Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
Personal blog: https://michele.blog/
Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/
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Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845
*From: *cc-humanrights <cc-humanrights-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of David Cake <dave@davecake.net> *Date: *Wednesday 2 May 2018 at 09:54 *To: *Collin Kurre <collin@article19.org> *Cc: *Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas@gmail.com>, " cc-humanrights@icann.org" <cc-humanrights@icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [cc-humanrights] CCWP Meeting: This Thursday!
The Expedited PDP model is a much abbreviated version of the normal PDP process, and it specifically does NOT include the steps involving as Issue Report, which is how an initial impact assessment performed by staff/contractors would be incorporated into the process.
For an expedited PDP, we would need to work out a separate process for incorporating an impact assessment - and given the seriously urgency of completion of the EPDP (by ICANN standards, anyway) it is very unlikely that an initial Issue Report stage is likely to happen, as it would add months of time to process. If we want an impact assessment to happen, we need to start making the board aware of that as soon as we can, and we probably, realistically, need to be thinking about a practical way in which that impact assessment can be dealt with in parallel to the main EPDP process, rather than preceding it as a normal PDP Issue Report would.
Though a privacy impact assessment for the GDPR process seems somewhat redundant, there may be other rights we should be looking at.
David
On 2 May 2018, at 3:59 pm, Collin Kurre <collin@article19.org> wrote:
Hi James,
There was mention on the [Accred-Model] list of an “expedited PDP” to define the GDPR interim compliance model. If this comes to pass, the process would benefit from the inclusion of an impact assessment, either specific to privacy or preferably to human rights more broadly. Stephanie Perrin and a couple others suggested this in San Juan.
This would also be a good opportunity to test drive compliance models or mechanisms that could be applied to standard, non-expedited PDPs once the human rights core value comes into effect.
Hope to see you on the call tomorrow!
Best,
Collin
On May 1, 2018, at 21:58, James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net> wrote:
Hi what is the intended content of the GDPR topic?
On 1 May 2018, at 22:24, Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Time flies! Our next scheduled call for the CCWP on Human Rights is this Thursday, 03 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC.
I'm attaching our proposed agenda below. Please don't hesitate to let us know if there's anything else you would like to discuss.
Best,
Michael and Collin
---------
*Proposed Agenda: CCWP on Human Rights Meeting*
*3 May 2018: 1400 UTC*
· Updates
o Website
o ICANN org HRIA
o HRIA GNSO model
· GDPR - Expedited PDP?
· ICANN’s HRIA with Löning
· Human rights PDP paper
· AOB
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participants (6)
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Collin Kurre -
David Cake -
James Gannon -
Michael Karanicolas -
Michele Neylon - Blacknight -
Rafik Dammak