In all the documents (CWG proposal, the guideline developed by the GRC, in the email to the community we are working on) it is specifically stated that it is open to any ccTLD.

What may seem confusing here is that we talk about ccNSO members to the CSC. The term “ccNSO (appointed) members to the CSC” is used to distinguish them from “GNSO (appointed) members” to the CSC. They will be called ccNSO members to the CSC but it has nothing to do with the actual ccNSO membership.

Hope that clarifies.

 

Regards,

 

]{atrina

 

 

From: owner-ccnso-council@icann.org [mailto:owner-ccnso-council@icann.org] On Behalf Of Peter Van Roste
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 4:56 PM
To: sdeerhake@nic.as; Andres Piazza <andres@lactld.org>; Katrina Sataki <katrina@nic.lv>; 'Barrack Otieno' <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
Cc: ccnso-council@icann.org
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Hi Stephen,

 

I fully agree.

I believe it important that the appointees work for a ccTLD and give regular feedback, whether they are from ccNSO member registries or non ccNSO member ccTLD registries.

 

Peter

 

From: Stephen Deerhake [mailto:sdeerhake@nic.as]
Sent: 01 June 2016 15:51
To: Peter Van Roste <peter@centr.org>; Andres Piazza <andres@lactld.org>; Katrina Sataki <katrina@nic.lv>; 'Barrack Otieno' <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
Cc: ccnso-council@icann.org
Subject: RE: [ccnso-council] FW: ATTENTION! Information on CSC

 

Peter,

 

I think restricting CSC membership to people drawn from ccNSO member ccTLD Registries would be a big error.  To do so would be to suggest that it's OK for the IANA to provide two levels of service --one for ccNSO member Registries, and another for non-ccNSO member Registries.

 

And besides, by excluding consideration of the potential talent pool that no doubt exists in non ccNSO member ccTLD Registries, we will deprive the Community of that potential talent.

 

Best,

/Stephen

 

From: owner-ccnso-council@icann.org [mailto:owner-ccnso-council@icann.org] On Behalf Of Peter Van Roste
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:11 AM
To: Andres Piazza <andres@lactld.org>; Katrina Sataki <katrina@nic.lv>; 'Barrack Otieno' <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
Cc: ccnso-council@icann.org
Subject: RE: [ccnso-council] FW: ATTENTION! Information on CSC

 

Hi Everyone,

 

Thanks for the interesting discussions!

I had one question: do the CSC reps need to be ccNSO members?

 

Regs,

Peter

 

From: owner-ccnso-council@icann.org [mailto:owner-ccnso-council@icann.org] On Behalf Of Andres Piazza
Sent: 01 June 2016 15:01
To: Katrina Sataki <katrina@nic.lv>; 'Barrack Otieno' <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
Cc: ccnso-council@icann.org
Subject: Re: [ccnso-council] FW: ATTENTION! Information on CSC

 

Dear Katrina and all,

I have followed closely the discussion and agree with the current approach, the one that you have summarized including this last response to Barrack. The chosen members must be professionals able to represent the ccTLD community.

But I have one additional comment taking in consideration the challenge of diversity while having only 2 seats. I believe the council is in position to commit at least with selecting 2 qualified candidates not from the same region. I am sure this is something achievable.

One more thing, and this is more a preference. I believe it may be good to select qualified people that are not council members to strenghten the community engagement on the global proccesses. Council members are already influential people and our communities could benefit from broadening the base of global representation.

Finally, I commit to work with LAC community to at least provide a couple of names to bring to the table.

Best,

 

Andrés Piazza

General Manager

LACTLD

 

El 1/6/16 a las 9:26, Katrina Sataki escribió:

 
Hi Barrack,
 
Thank you very much for your comment!
 
I agree with your point. BUT! Please take into account:
 
1) we have to select only 2 members. As Alejandra rightfully pointed out, there's no much room for diversity. We have 5 regions, we have really big, medium-sized and small registries. We have ccTLDs run by private comapnies, governmental institutions, academic institutions, NGOs, not for profit organisations, etc. 2 seats!!!
 
2) I think that this time it is not only about representation and goodwill. If we needed to choose a dentist, for example, we would not think "Our eye doctor is old and comes from Europe, the surgeon is a young Brazilian, psychotherapist is very small and skinny - so, the dentist must be a big woman from Australia" No, we would look for a professional who knows how to fix an aching tooth. If the big woman from Australia happens to be a superb dentist - it's wonderful. But if she does not have a clue, then better not to let her touch our teeth. I think this is what my colleagues councillors mean when they say that knowledge of IANA system should be prior to other considerations.
 
3) the diversity of the entire CSC composition should be considered. But! Liaisons do not vote. Members do. Therefore the members we select must be professionals who are able to soothe our toothache.
 
Thanks!
 
Regards,
 
]{atrina 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Barrack Otieno [mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 2:14 PM
To: Katrina Sataki <katrina@nic.lv>
Cc: ccnso-council@icann.org
Subject: Re: [ccnso-council] FW: ATTENTION! Information on CSC
 
Hi Katrina,
 
I would like to emphasize on one point diversity. We should strive to be diverse since it always attracts goodwill due to the fact that it enhances representation.
 
Regards
 
On 6/1/16, Katrina Sataki <katrina@nic.lv> wrote:
Dear All,
 
 
 
Thanks for all your comments!
 
 
 
To foster further discussion I’ll try to address your comments and 
questions.
 
 
 
VOTING:
 
Those who responded support the idea of having a sub-committee. Please 
note that according to the current plan in any case evaluation of 
candidates and selection of 2 CSC members from the ccNSO is done by 
full ccNSO Council (with exception of those Councillors who decide to 
apply for CSC, of course).
 
The role of the sub-committee we need to agree on is: do we want the 
sub-committee to only liaise with the RySG and GNSO – OR – we agree 
that the sub-committee also votes on the full slate on behalf of the ccNSO Council.
Alejandra supported the first option. As far as I understand, Debbie 
also prefers the first option. What do others think? Please take into 
account that if we ask for a full ccNSO Council vote we will need a 
quorate ccNSO Council either on a call or via emails in early August!
 
 
 
SELECTION:
 
In the guideline there will be requirements for CSC members and in 
their applications the candidates will be asked to meet these 
requirements. I think these requirements should be used to evaluate the candidates.
 
 
 
DIVERSITY:
 
We need to select people who know their stuff. At the same time, the 
CWG in their proposal clearly stated that diversity needs to be 
considered. Yes, we need knowledgeable people but are we ok if all the 
members of the CSC (2 from ccNSO and 2 from GNSO) are from the same 
region? If yes, we must be ready to 1) accept this risk and 2) justify our position.
 
Yes, we will coordinate the full slate with the GNSO and hopefully 
will be able to work on diversity. Other SO/ACs are asked to submit 2 
candidates each even though they have only 1 seat each. We hope that 
this would give us (ccNSO and GNSO) a leverage to ensure diversity.
 
However, this might not be enough.
 
Your thoughts?
 
 
 
Kind regards,
 
 
 
]{atrina
 
 
 
 
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