Dear Eberhard

Thank you for your feedback on the council workshop and I am adding the Council mailing list in copy.

I appreciate your point with respect to the late start and I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

With respect to the session itself I want to make a few observations to provide more context:

This session was intended to solicit different perspectives, from Councillors and community members, on how they look at the effectiveness and efficiency of ccNSO's policy work and how it could be improved.
The past Council workshop was the first time we could have such a discussion looking at a concluded ccPDP.
I trust we will continue this matter and further analysis will be undertaken.
As stated it was NOT intended as an evaluation of the process of the development of the retirement policy, which is first and foremost a matter of the working group developing the policy.

As to the session itself, this was organized by an ad-hoc committee of the Council, which included the Chair of the Retirement working group. I leave it up to this group whether they want to comment on your feed-back.

Best regards,
Alejandra

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On 17/11/2022, 21:37, "Dr Eberhard W Lisse" <el@lisse.NA> wrote:

Alejandra,

This format of this did not work for me at all.

Throwing a few virtual post-its around without taking into
consideration whether the points were made were made by actual
members of the group or others (ie lacking insight into the
operation of the Wg) does not help.

Neither do some very outlandish suggestions making it onto those
post-its by a participant (ie not a member) of the WG. I am not
objecting to the suggestions per se (this is "electronic
brainstorming" after all, but the lack of reflection applied to
any of them in any analysis.

I do not believe that a quantitative approach to comments in order
to change ccNSO working methodology is too simplistic for the
importance of this.

I was VERY disturbed by the summary termination of the workshop at
the top of the hour (after the Council Call encroached on the
allocated time), which I find disrespectful to those volunteers
who attended out of hours, and reduces this exercise to something
akin to ticking a box.

I am not sure I am willing to participate in something like this
in or out of hours again.

The one issue that really irritated me during the process of
developing the policy, was a Council Member (not participating in
the Wg) making some really strong remarks about the length we were
taking (if I recall correctly on one of the pre-Covid meetings).

I must confess that I could at the time barely be restrained by
the Wg's chair from esablishing whether that was in line with
accepted norms of behaviour in the ICANN context.

Since the Council member was present during today's Zoom call I
had wanted to address that point for and on the record.

Since I can not post to the Council List and don't have a list of
non Council Members participating, I trust you bring this email
to the attention of everyone who was on the Zoom call.

The two chairs of the Wg read in copy.

el

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