Increasing the number of the Nom Comm makes no sense. Much better to decrease the representation of others. So, for example if each SO?AC nominated 3 people (and rotated the regions at the end of terms) then the NomComm would be a manageable size and regional diversity could be maintained. 

Cheers,

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On 20 Jun 2023 at 16:52 +0100, Jordan Carter via Ccnso-council <ccnso-council@icann.org>, wrote:
Hi all

I think I share Irina's concern. In my view, the NomCom is already too big. It would be easier (but still controversial) to make it bigger by adding more ccNSO reps. But that might make the group entirely dysfunctional.

Shouldn't we take care to make sure the system can work well, as well as redressing the share of power to more realistically reflect the importance of the ccNSO?

Cheers
Jordan

-----Original Message-----
From: Ccnso-council <ccnso-council-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Demi Getschko via Ccnso-council
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2023 11:14 PM
To: ccnso-council@icann.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [ccnso-council] on the NomCom rebalancing

Pablo + 1 here!

This is an old issue, never resolved. We are severely underrepresented in NomCom...
best!

demi

On 19/06/2023 21:40, Pablo Rodriguez via Ccnso-council wrote:
Dear All:
I agree with Stephen's remark, no SO or AC will give up seats at the
table to increase ccNSO's participation.
Consequently, it seems to me the logical path is to increase our
number to 5 members (1 per region).
I would agree to less than five if those that currently have five
members cut down their membership to an equal number as the ccNSO.
Regards,





On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 12:09 PM Stephen Deerhake @ ASNIC via
Ccnso-council <ccnso-council@icann.org> wrote:

Hi,

Further Jordan and Nick’s remarks, I personally do not see how we
can achieve a rebalancing effort in any of our lifetimes without
an approach that does not involve expansion of the NomCom membership.

I just do not see the other SO/AC’s giving up some seats at the
table to the ccNSO. So I think, to use an American expression
regarding our Supreme court, we need to “ack the NomCom.”

Best Regards,

Stephen

*From: *Ccnso-council <ccnso-council-bounces@icann.org> on behalf
of Alejandra Reynoso Barral via Ccnso-council
<ccnso-council@icann.org>
*Reply-To: *Alejandra Reynoso Barral <alejandra.reynoso@gmail.com>
*Date: *Monday, June 19, 2023 at 08:29
*To: *Nick Wenban-Smith <Nick.Wenban-Smith@nominet.uk>
*Cc: *"ccnso-Council@icann.org" <ccnso-council@icann.org>
*Subject: *Re: [ccnso-council] on the NomCom rebalancing

Dear All

We had a great ICANN meeting and I hope everyone arrived safely
back home.

Nick, so far we don't have any input on what other SOs/ACs are
going to respond. During one of the Chairs monthly calls it was
brought to the table and it seemed that we didn't need
coordination. If we feel it would be best to share views before
the formal response I can always reach out to them and seek input.

Here is the ICANN Correspondence:

https://www/.
icann.org%2Fresources%2Fpages%2Fcorrespondence&data=05%7C01%7Cjordan.c
arter%40auda.org.au%7C2acd2577d3e6469967e008db71904c54%7C81810bc45d684
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eserved=0

There are very few responses already regarding the NomCom
rebalancing topic.

On the other hand, some of you approached me to be allowed to
contribute to the response and here I am sharing the Google Doc:


https://docs/
.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1OeX5vRNKkgOME5IWbTeAPxffdMhednPE%2Fedit&
data=05%7C01%7Cjordan.carter%40auda.org.au%7C2acd2577d3e6469967e008db7
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k8cEINFpbNSdoHzI8A%3D&reserved=0

Please add your comments and suggestions by the 22 June.
Afterwards the Ad Hoc team will clean it up and circulate a final
version for approval on the 26 June.

Best regards,

Alejandra


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On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 9:21 PM Nick Wenban-Smith via
Ccnso-council <ccnso-council@icann.org> wrote:

It’s hard to see another way to do it.

Does anyone have any insights as to how other participants
(such as the GNSO and ALAC) are looking at this? Might be a
good idea to coordinate responses, just a thought.

*From:* Ccnso-council <ccnso-council-bounces@icann.org> *On
Behalf Of *Jordan Carter via Ccnso-council
*Sent:* Thursday, June 15, 2023 7:37 PM
*To:* ccnso-Council@icann.org
*Subject:* [ccnso-council] on the NomCom rebalancing

Hi all

This email is about the response to Tripti’s letter on the
rebalancing of the NomCom.

The draft was on our list recently and is downloadable here:
https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/228788163/Item%2012%20-%20draft%20Submission%20Rebalancing%20NomCom.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1686841335000&api=v2

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In specific reply to Question 4 almost at the end of the doc,
the suggestion is that there be a Cross Community Working
Group to do the work of developing a change to the NomCom’s
balance, which will lead to bylaws changes.

I can’t think of a different way to do it.

* Clearly the Board coming up with a proposal and seeking
public comment isn’t the right way.
* The NomCom can’t propose changes to itself.
* The SO/AC Chairs leadership forum does not have the
mandate to propose specifics in such a potentially
contentious area.
* Getting some external consultant to do a review would just
be an interesting input – we clearly can’t just say “ok”
to something someone outside the community wrote for us.

Perhaps we could expand the point to say something like the
following – shared as a rough draft to see what people think…

*4. How do you suggest that the NomCom’s composition be
rebalanced?*

It is our view that, the rebalancing should be achieved
through a cross-community group process, chartered by the
community and Board which ultimately would result in
suggestions for Bylaw changes.

We think work on this question, in whatever form is finally
agreed, should start expeditiously since it will take some
time to start and some time to do the work. We are prepared to
participate in a chartering group in the near future. The goal
should be that there is a process of some type proposed for
discussion at ICANN78 in October.

_______

*Jordan Carter*

Internet Governance and Policy Director

jordan.carter@auda.org.au <mailto:jordan.carter@auda.org.au>

+61 417 243 647


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