Hi Stephen
I think you have read an intent or a critical tone to my note that I did not anticipate or intend.
I am arguing for the Council’s right to deal with this request in a collective fashion, one that weaves our talents and perspectives together, in deciding what to do.
That isn’t inconsistent with the path we choose to take being the same as that you have embarked on. After all, being transparent, involving those who did the work,
are self-evidently necessary as part of generating a response.
But, as two examples, it might have been that we could have agreed to give relevant ICANN staff a heads up before contacting a former contractor. Or, for us as a group
to have been involved in deciding, before it happened, of sending the query to the working group prior to a Council discussion.
Those choices were precluded by you going ahead with the actions you’ve shared with us.
None of these are an especially big deal, and I don’t have strong feelings about any aspect of this situation. But the point in my opinion is that it is the Council’s
collective right to make these calls, especially when there is evident concern to have a convo, and where there is evident sensitivity about the whole situation. That’s why I think it’s regrettable that we haven’t had that chance.
I hope this additional context means that you feel less in need of taking serious exception to my ask of you.
Look forward to discussing it all next week.
Cheers
Jordan
From: Stephen Deerhake @ ASNIC <sdeerhake@nic.as>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2024 2:44 PM
To: Jordan Carter <jordan.carter@auda.org.au>; ccnso-Council@icann.org
Subject: Re: [ccnso-council] [EXTERNAL] - Requests for clarification/confirmation wrt ccPDP3 Review Mechanism
Jordan,
As much I respect you and your cumulative body of work on behalf of the multi-stakeholder community that is ICANN, I have to take serious exception to your comments below.
I'll put aside my serious questions regarding Board actions with respect to this matter to date and their compliance with the Bylaws --I alluded to it in a prior email to Council, and my concerns will be forthcoming.
I am thus at the "...push pause on any discussions or work, until we meet next week." appeal to me.
Why? Why should I cease to elicit comments on the Board's queries to us from those within our Community who dedicated pro-bono time and effort to (at least) 63 meetings of the Review Mechanism working group? Should
we suddenly cast their expertise and interest in this matter aside?
Is there a need to cast Council's deliberations on the questions the Board posed to us regarding the Review Mechanism into the shade and not have them transparent, if not to the Community writ large, at least to those
Community members that devoted hours and hours of their time to producing said policy, adopted by the Council as well as the Community?
I fail to see why the effect of my actions "...has been to preclude some choices we could have made about how to handle this issue..."
Please educate me on this.
My intent has been to simply gather thoughts about the Board's concerns from those who worked on the policy development, and try to get those thoughts captured in the Board's document to us for the upcoming Council's
deliberation about this matter. Frankly, it never occurred to me that pulling together this information would be so controversial. I am thus somewhat taken aback for the vilification this effort has brought down on me.
Best regards,
//Stephen
From: Ccnso-council <ccnso-council-bounces@icann.org>
on behalf of Jordan Carter via Ccnso-council <ccnso-council@icann.org>
Reply-To: Jordan Carter <jordan.carter@auda.org.au>
Date: Monday, April 29, 2024 at 16:55
To: "ccnso-Council@icann.org" <ccnso-council@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [ccnso-council] [EXTERNAL] - Requests for clarification/confirmation wrt ccPDP3 Review Mechanism
Hi all
Stephen, may I ask that you desist from involving non-Council members in this matter until the Council has determined how to proceed?
Since you have already shared the document widely beyond the Council, I would simply ask that you push pause on any discussions or work, until we meet next week.
The effect of your actions has been to preclude some choices we could have made about how to handle this issue, and I think that is regrettable.
Cheers
Jordan
From: Ccnso-council <ccnso-council-bounces@icann.org>
On Behalf Of Stephen Deerhake @ ASNIC via Ccnso-council
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2024 1:11 AM
To: Ccnso-council <ccnso-council@icann.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] - [ccnso-council] Requests for clarification/confirmation wrt ccPDP3 Review Mechanism
Greetings,
A quick update:
Bernard Turcotte and I are jointly working on replies to the Board’s document seeking clarification/confirmation that Alejandra circulated to us last week. I expect we will have something to
share with the Council by the end of the week.
Best Regards,
//Stephen