All, As you know we have submitted to ICANN 13 people who will be funded to travel to Sydney. We had an allocation of 18 to be used by the end of June 2009 and therefore have not taken up 5. I have been approached by the GAC Chair, Janis Karklins, who says: "As you may be aware, the GAC is currently working through mechanisms to ensure least and less developed country participation and securing financial support for their participation through the ICANN operational and budget planning process. As this processes and a proposed approach is for the next fiscal year, we are faced with some attendees needing support for the ICANN Sydney meeting. Would the ccNSO have space through its travel support from ICANN and if so, would it be willing to share its unused travel support for 3 to 4 government representatives from developing or least developed countries? The GAC stands ready to discuss with ccNSO or ICANN staff the administrative details in case of your favorable response." I have checked with Doug Brent and Theresa Swinehart who say that we would not 'share' any unused support but rather we would simply confirm to ICANN that we have no objection to them reallocating our unused support to some nominees put forward by the GAC. I think we should do this in the spirit of cooperation. Does anyone object? Cheers, Chris Disspain CEO - auDA au Domain Administration Ltd <mailto:ceo@auda.org.au> ceo@auda.org.au <http://www.auda.org.au/> www.auda.org.au Important Notice - This email may contain information which is confidential and/or subject to legal privilege, and is intended for the use of the named addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or copy any part of this email. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
I have no objections - taking into account Byron's concern. I don't see any problems in supporting governments (or actually their representatives) of undeveloped countries since it is really important to us to have good relations with governments and especially with current GAC members. This "offer" to GAC is not a financial issue only but PR too. Juhani
-----Original Message----- From: owner-ccnso-council@icann.org [mailto:owner-ccnso-council@icann.org] On Behalf Of Chris Disspain Sent: 8. huhtikuuta 2009 6:14 To: ccNSO Council Subject: [ccnso-council] travel funding request
All,
As you know we have submitted to ICANN 13 people who will be funded to travel to Sydney. We had an allocation of 18 to be used by the end of June 2009 and therefore have not taken up 5.
I have been approached by the GAC Chair, Janis Karklins, who says:
"As you may be aware, the GAC is currently working through mechanisms to ensure least and less developed country participation and securing financial support for their participation through the ICANN operational and budget planning process. As this processes and a proposed approach is for the next fiscal year, we are faced with some attendees needing support for the ICANN Sydney meeting. Would the ccNSO have space through its travel support from ICANN and if so, would it be willing to share its unused travel support for 3 to 4 government representatives from developing or least developed countries?
The GAC stands ready to discuss with ccNSO or ICANN staff the administrative details in case of your favorable response."
I have checked with Doug Brent and Theresa Swinehart who say that we would not 'share' any unused support but rather we would simply confirm to ICANN that we have no objection to them reallocating our unused support to some nominees put forward by the GAC.
I think we should do this in the spirit of cooperation. Does anyone object?
Cheers,
Chris Disspain
CEO - auDA
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Chris Disspain wrote:
All,
As you know we have submitted to ICANN 13 people who will be funded to travel to Sydney. We had an allocation of 18 to be used by the end of June 2009 and therefore have not taken up 5.
Hi Chris! Shouldn't we ask another ACs or SOs? I believe there are others interested in it. Ondrej
I have been approached by the GAC Chair, Janis Karklins, who says:
“As you may be aware, the GAC is currently working through mechanisms to ensure least and less developed country participation and securing financial support for their participation through the ICANN operational and budget planning process. As this processes and a proposed approach is for the next fiscal year, we are faced with some attendees needing support for the ICANN Sydney meeting. Would the ccNSO have space through its travel support from ICANN and if so, would it be willing to share its unused travel support for 3 to 4 government representatives from developing or least developed countries?
The GAC stands ready to discuss with ccNSO or ICANN staff the administrative details in case of your favorable response.”
I have checked with Doug Brent and Theresa Swinehart who say that we would not ‘share’ any unused support but rather we would simply confirm to ICANN that we have no objection to them reallocating our unused support to some nominees put forward by the GAC.
I think we should do this in the spirit of cooperation. Does anyone object?
Cheers,
Chris Disspain
CEO - auDA
au Domain Administration Ltd
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www.auda.org.au <http://www.auda.org.au/>
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Ondrej, I don't know what the deadline of the GAC is, but the other SO's deadline was the 6th April as well - i.e. it's too late for them as well. Gabi -----Original Message----- From: owner-ccnso-council@icann.org [mailto:owner-ccnso-council@icann.org] On Behalf Of Ondrej Filip Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 3:28 PM To: Chris Disspain Cc: ccNSO Council Subject: Re: [ccnso-council] travel funding request Chris Disspain wrote:
All,
As you know we have submitted to ICANN 13 people who will be funded to travel to Sydney. We had an allocation of 18 to be used by the end of June 2009 and therefore have not taken up 5.
Hi Chris! Shouldn't we ask another ACs or SOs? I believe there are others interested in it. Ondrej
I have been approached by the GAC Chair, Janis Karklins, who says:
"As you may be aware, the GAC is currently working through mechanisms to ensure least and less developed country participation and securing financial support for their participation through the ICANN operational and budget planning process. As this processes and a proposed approach is for the next fiscal year, we are faced with some attendees needing support for the ICANN Sydney meeting. Would the ccNSO have space through its travel support from ICANN and if so, would it be willing to share its unused travel support for 3 to 4 government representatives from developing or least developed countries?
The GAC stands ready to discuss with ccNSO or ICANN staff the administrative details in case of your favorable response."
I have checked with Doug Brent and Theresa Swinehart who say that we would not 'share' any unused support but rather we would simply confirm to ICANN that we have no objection to them reallocating our unused support to some nominees put forward by the GAC.
I think we should do this in the spirit of cooperation. Does anyone object?
Cheers,
Chris Disspain
CEO - auDA
au Domain Administration Ltd
ceo@auda.org.au <mailto:ceo@auda.org.au>
www.auda.org.au <http://www.auda.org.au/>
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Chris and all, I know that Gabi made a call for additional candidates for travel support, and in particular in my region several people obtained support this way. But I regret that we did not receive a final call before the deadline, with an explicit mention that there were still 5 available slots, and that they would be lost if we didn't use them. Now it seems that we cannot use them even if someone from our community came forward now asking for support, but somehow ICANN would be flexible enough to allow the GAC to use these slots. This seems strange, and if that option is open for the GAC, I don't understand why it would not be open to us. Having said that, if we definitely cannot use any of those slots, I would agree to give them to the GAC, provided that those government representatives were made aware that their travel is sponsored, so to say, by the ccTLD community. Ideally, I hope we would have some say in who gets funding. For instance, I wouldn't be very comfortable if support went to some government that is hostile to the current ccTLD administrator. Patricio Chris Disspain wrote:
All,
As you know we have submitted to ICANN 13 people who will be funded to travel to Sydney. We had an allocation of 18 to be used by the end of June 2009 and therefore have not taken up 5.
I have been approached by the GAC Chair, Janis Karklins, who says:
"As you may be aware, the GAC is currently working through mechanisms to ensure least and less developed country participation and securing financial support for their participation through the ICANN operational and budget planning process. As this processes and a proposed approach is for the next fiscal year, we are faced with some attendees needing support for the ICANN Sydney meeting. Would the ccNSO have space through its travel support from ICANN and if so, would it be willing to share its unused travel support for 3 to 4 government representatives from developing or least developed countries?
The GAC stands ready to discuss with ccNSO or ICANN staff the administrative details in case of your favorable response."
I have checked with Doug Brent and Theresa Swinehart who say that we would not 'share' any unused support but rather we would simply confirm to ICANN that we have no objection to them reallocating our unused support to some nominees put forward by the GAC.
I think we should do this in the spirit of cooperation. Does anyone object?
Cheers,
Chris Disspain
CEO - auDA
au Domain Administration Ltd
ceo@auda.org.au <mailto:ceo@auda.org.au>
www.auda.org.au <http://www.auda.org.au/>
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Patricio, There are several reasons for why we didn't "warn" you that there were still 5 slots open. One of the reasons is that we simply didn't know until very late how many candidates we actually had - one of them withdrew last minute because of illness, another one was supposed to go, but couldn't come because it turned out he couldn't be away from his registry that time . We had 3 candidates that we turned down for various reasons - and according to our travel guidelines they would have a chance to 'appeal'. We didn't know whether they would appeal and whether they would be successful in doing so. Please, also bear in mind that our own guidelines don't really allow last-minute additions - although we have tried to be as flexible as we could in this respect. Besides the call to the councillors to find candidates from each of their region, we also contacted the regional liaisons and asked them to find suitable candidates (successfully ). We therefore considered these sources exhausted. I don't know what the "deal" is for the GAC, but I am trying to find out. Gabi From: owner-ccnso-council@icann.org [mailto:owner-ccnso-council@icann.org] On Behalf Of Patricio Poblete Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:01 PM To: Chris Disspain Cc: ccNSO Council Subject: Re: [ccnso-council] travel funding request Chris and all, I know that Gabi made a call for additional candidates for travel support, and in particular in my region several people obtained support this way. But I regret that we did not receive a final call before the deadline, with an explicit mention that there were still 5 available slots, and that they would be lost if we didn't use them. Now it seems that we cannot use them even if someone from our community came forward now asking for support, but somehow ICANN would be flexible enough to allow the GAC to use these slots. This seems strange, and if that option is open for the GAC, I don't understand why it would not be open to us. Having said that, if we definitely cannot use any of those slots, I would agree to give them to the GAC, provided that those government representatives were made aware that their travel is sponsored, so to say, by the ccTLD community. Ideally, I hope we would have some say in who gets funding. For instance, I wouldn't be very comfortable if support went to some government that is hostile to the current ccTLD administrator. Patricio Chris Disspain wrote: All, As you know we have submitted to ICANN 13 people who will be funded to travel to Sydney. We had an allocation of 18 to be used by the end of June 2009 and therefore have not taken up 5. I have been approached by the GAC Chair, Janis Karklins, who says: "As you may be aware, the GAC is currently working through mechanisms to ensure least and less developed country participation and securing financial support for their participation through the ICANN operational and budget planning process. As this processes and a proposed approach is for the next fiscal year, we are faced with some attendees needing support for the ICANN Sydney meeting. Would the ccNSO have space through its travel support from ICANN and if so, would it be willing to share its unused travel support for 3 to 4 government representatives from developing or least developed countries? The GAC stands ready to discuss with ccNSO or ICANN staff the administrative details in case of your favorable response." I have checked with Doug Brent and Theresa Swinehart who say that we would not 'share' any unused support but rather we would simply confirm to ICANN that we have no objection to them reallocating our unused support to some nominees put forward by the GAC. I think we should do this in the spirit of cooperation. Does anyone object? Cheers, Chris Disspain CEO - auDA au Domain Administration Ltd ceo@auda.org.au<mailto:ceo@auda.org.au> www.auda.org.au<http://www.auda.org.au/> Important Notice - This email may contain information which is confidential and/or subject to legal privilege, and is intended for the use of the named addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or copy any part of this email. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
participants (5)
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Chris Disspain -
Gabriella Schittek -
Juselius Juhani -
Ondrej Filip -
Patricio Poblete