(I've brought this discussion off the ccNSO Community list, but have left it on the ccNSO council list) El, As a follow-on to Katrina's comments, let me say that first of all this is not our concern. If the various houses of the GNSO wish to wage war on themselves over this, then so be it. The US based intellectual property (IP) lawyers and Law Enforcement (LE) are screaming for complete access; the European Regulators are telling them "No Way". The GTLD registries are caught in the middle: contractually obligated to ICANN, yet under (sometimes extreme) pressure from the LE/IP community to ignore these Regulators at great risk to their financial wellbeing due to the potential fines mandated under GDPR. It was also made clear at some point along the way that the EPDP group was looking for something like 30 hours per week of active participation from members, which in my mind was basically a means to stack it with IP interests from large law firms who could task personnel to this effort. Sorry to be so cynical, but they have a track record... In my view, the effort of this EPDP will ultimately turn out to be "A bridge too far". And that conclusion is made independent of ICANN's recent failures in the German courts to maintain the old "whois order". Become an observer if you are interested; it could well be interesting given the linkage between the EPDP's chair and ICANN. As Katrina stated, the Council considered but rejected becoming an active participant in the GNSO's EPDP. I supported that decision as a Council member, and I continue to support it. Best Regards /Stephen On 8/11/18, 13:14, "Dr Eberhard W Lisse" <el@lisse.NA> wrote: Katrina, I wasn't thinking of myself. But there are surely some larger ccTLDs which have an opinion and could support the staffing.... greetings, el On 2018-08-11 17:09 , Katrina Sataki wrote: > Eberhard, > > On 12 July, we received a request from the GNSO to appoint two members > and two alternates to the EPDP by 20 July. Members were expected to > have knowledge of GDPR and commit to actively participate in the work > of the EPDP, i.e. devote at least 4-6 hours weekly for at least 6 > months. In addition, it is a requirement of the EPDP charter that > members represent the formal position of their appointing > organization, not individual views or positions. Taking all this into > account, the ccNSO Council decided not to appoint members and > alternates to the EPDP. However, we would like to encourage individual > ccTLDs to share their experience and help the EPDP team to achieve > their goals. > > Please note that the EPDP is open for observers (observers are > subscribed to the mailing list and have the capacity to listen to call > in real-time through an audiocast). > > Kind regards, > > ]{atrina > > > [...] -- Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist (Saar) el@lisse.NA / * | Telephone: +264 81 124 6733 (cell) PO Box 8421 / Bachbrecht, Namibia ;____/