Re: [ccnso-council] Item to discuss: Future of ccNSO Dinners
++1 to Keith and Vika Best Regards On Fri, September 7, 2012 10:43 am, Vika Mpisane wrote:
+1in particular with regard to the unrestrictive nature of cocktails, which will allow for more interaction between the cc community, while keeping the door open for all cc people. I feel sorry I didn't realize the kind of burden the dinners put on the secretariat until I read the document.
Regards,
Vika Mpisane | Tel: +27 11 314 0077
On 2012/09/07 1:37 AM, "Keith Davidson" <keith@internetnz.net.nz> wrote:
I too was surprised to hear the levels of anxiety being caused to our secretariat by these dinners.
I think the recommendation put forward by Gabi to have a "cocktails and snacks for the entire ccTLD community" is worth testing, and I would suggest we adopt this format for perhaps the first 2 ICANN meetings in 2013, and evaluate and compare and make a final decision at that point.
I think the opportunity to socialise with the broader group, and the transient nature of discussions over cocktails would enable us all to meet and chat with a broader cross section of our community. I do find the sit-down dinners a little restrictive on being able to meet and mingle, so this format is an improvement.
And I think the impact on the local host, on the sponsors, and the ability to continue to have the event close to or at the meeting venue will all be important pluses to this process
And finally, anything that can ease the burden and hassles on our secretariat must be good for us all...
Cheers
Keith
On 31/08/2012 2:59 a.m., Lesley Cowley wrote:
Thanks Gabi for the paper.
I have now been able to listen to the call recording and was not surprised to hear the level of interest in this item!
From both the paper and the call, I understand that the popularity of the dinners has resulted in problems and we currently have a 'problem statement' that covers three problems:
1. The administration of the ccNSO dinner is becoming increasingly time consuming and problematic for our Secretariat 2. The cost of the dinners has now risen to a level that makes it challenging to find sufficient sponsorship 3. We cannot currently accommodate everyone who would like to come to the dinners and people become frustrated and/or disappointed
Perhaps as a starting point for our discussion, it would be helpful to know if there are any other problems that we have missed?
Assuming we can agree on what problems we are trying to solve, the next challenge will be to consider solutions. On the call, I heard solutions being proposed that would address some, but not all of the problems, such as asking attendees to pay for some of the costs, asking the local hosts to organise.
Its always quite difficult to have a debate on this kind of topic via an email list, but at the very least I suggest that we use the list to gather some suggestions on options that we can bring together in a paper for our next Council call.
Thoughts and suggestions welcome..
Kind regards,
Lesley
Lesley Cowley, OBE CEO Nominet Minerva House Edmund Halley Road Oxford Science Park Oxford, OX4 4DQ UK
Tel: +44-(0)-1865-332211 http://www.nominet.org.uk/
From: Gabriella Schittek <gabriella.schittek@icann.org <mailto:gabriella.schittek@icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:01 To: ccNSO Council <ccnso-council@icann.org <mailto:ccnso-council@icann.org>> Subject: [ccnso-council] Item to discuss: Future of ccNSO Dinners
Dear Councillors,
The issue of the Future of the ccNSO Dinners caused quite a debate at today's call, so it was decided to once again forward the document on this subject to the Council list and to discuss it online. We can then bring it up again at next Council call.
Please, read the document and share your thoughts on this email list!
Kind regards,
Gabi
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+++1: what we cherish actually is the time to chat and relax, no matter with a full-course dinner or only light snacks. Hong On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Barrack Ong'ondo Otieno <barrack@aftld.org> wrote:
++1 to Keith and Vika
Best Regards
On Fri, September 7, 2012 10:43 am, Vika Mpisane wrote:
+1Šin particular with regard to the unrestrictive nature of cocktails, which will allow for more interaction between the cc community, while keeping the door open for all cc people. I feel sorry I didn't realize the kind of burden the dinners put on the secretariat until I read the document.
Regards,
Vika Mpisane | Tel: +27 11 314 0077
On 2012/09/07 1:37 AM, "Keith Davidson" <keith@internetnz.net.nz> wrote:
I too was surprised to hear the levels of anxiety being caused to our secretariat by these dinners.
I think the recommendation put forward by Gabi to have a "cocktails and snacks for the entire ccTLD community" is worth testing, and I would suggest we adopt this format for perhaps the first 2 ICANN meetings in 2013, and evaluate and compare and make a final decision at that point.
I think the opportunity to socialise with the broader group, and the transient nature of discussions over cocktails would enable us all to meet and chat with a broader cross section of our community. I do find the sit-down dinners a little restrictive on being able to meet and mingle, so this format is an improvement.
And I think the impact on the local host, on the sponsors, and the ability to continue to have the event close to or at the meeting venue will all be important pluses to this process
And finally, anything that can ease the burden and hassles on our secretariat must be good for us all...
Cheers
Keith
On 31/08/2012 2:59 a.m., Lesley Cowley wrote:
Thanks Gabi for the paper.
I have now been able to listen to the call recording and was not surprised to hear the level of interest in this item!
From both the paper and the call, I understand that the popularity of the dinners has resulted in problems and we currently have a 'problem statement' that covers three problems:
1. The administration of the ccNSO dinner is becoming increasingly time consuming and problematic for our Secretariat 2. The cost of the dinners has now risen to a level that makes it challenging to find sufficient sponsorship 3. We cannot currently accommodate everyone who would like to come to the dinners and people become frustrated and/or disappointed
Perhaps as a starting point for our discussion, it would be helpful to know if there are any other problems that we have missed?
Assuming we can agree on what problems we are trying to solve, the next challenge will be to consider solutions. On the call, I heard solutions being proposed that would address some, but not all of the problems, such as asking attendees to pay for some of the costs, asking the local hosts to organise.
Its always quite difficult to have a debate on this kind of topic via an email list, but at the very least I suggest that we use the list to gather some suggestions on options that we can bring together in a paper for our next Council call.
Thoughts and suggestions welcomeŠ..
Kind regards,
Lesley
Lesley Cowley, OBE CEO Nominet Minerva House Edmund Halley Road Oxford Science Park Oxford, OX4 4DQ UK
Tel: +44-(0)-1865-332211 http://www.nominet.org.uk/
From: Gabriella Schittek <gabriella.schittek@icann.org <mailto:gabriella.schittek@icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:01 To: ccNSO Council <ccnso-council@icann.org <mailto:ccnso-council@icann.org>> Subject: [ccnso-council] Item to discuss: Future of ccNSO Dinners
Dear Councillors,
The issue of the Future of the ccNSO Dinners caused quite a debate at today's call, so it was decided to once again forward the document on this subject to the Council list and to discuss it online. We can then bring it up again at next Council call.
Please, read the document and share your thoughts on this email list!
Kind regards,
Gabi
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I agree with Keith on this point. We can try and see how "coctails and snacks" can work out. Sokol
On 2012/09/07 1:37 AM, "Keith Davidson" <keith@internetnz.net.nz> wrote:
I too was surprised to hear the levels of anxiety being caused to our secretariat by these dinners.
I think the recommendation put forward by Gabi to have a "cocktails and snacks for the entire ccTLD community" is worth testing, and I would suggest we adopt this format for perhaps the first 2 ICANN meetings in 2013, and evaluate and compare and make a final decision at that point.
I think the opportunity to socialise with the broader group, and the transient nature of discussions over cocktails would enable us all to meet and chat with a broader cross section of our community. I do find the sit-down dinners a little restrictive on being able to meet and mingle, so this format is an improvement.
And I think the impact on the local host, on the sponsors, and the ability to continue to have the event close to or at the meeting venue will all be important pluses to this process
And finally, anything that can ease the burden and hassles on our secretariat must be good for us all...
Cheers
Keith
On 31/08/2012 2:59 a.m., Lesley Cowley wrote:
Thanks Gabi for the paper.
I have now been able to listen to the call recording and was not surprised to hear the level of interest in this item!
From both the paper and the call, I understand that the popularity of the dinners has resulted in problems and we currently have a 'problem statement' that covers three problems:
1. The administration of the ccNSO dinner is becoming increasingly time consuming and problematic for our Secretariat 2. The cost of the dinners has now risen to a level that makes it challenging to find sufficient sponsorship 3. We cannot currently accommodate everyone who would like to come to the dinners and people become frustrated and/or disappointed
Perhaps as a starting point for our discussion, it would be helpful to know if there are any other problems that we have missed?
Assuming we can agree on what problems we are trying to solve, the next challenge will be to consider solutions. On the call, I heard solutions being proposed that would address some, but not all of the problems, such as asking attendees to pay for some of the costs, asking the local hosts to organise.
Its always quite difficult to have a debate on this kind of topic via an email list, but at the very least I suggest that we use the list to gather some suggestions on options that we can bring together in a paper for our next Council call.
Thoughts and suggestions welcomeŠ..
Kind regards,
Lesley
Lesley Cowley, OBE CEO Nominet Minerva House Edmund Halley Road Oxford Science Park Oxford, OX4 4DQ UK
Tel: +44-(0)-1865-332211 http://www.nominet.org.uk/
From: Gabriella Schittek <gabriella.schittek@icann.org <mailto:gabriella.schittek@icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:01 To: ccNSO Council <ccnso-council@icann.org <mailto:ccnso-council@icann.org>> Subject: [ccnso-council] Item to discuss: Future of ccNSO Dinners
Dear Councillors,
The issue of the Future of the ccNSO Dinners caused quite a debate at today's call, so it was decided to once again forward the document on this subject to the Council list and to discuss it online. We can then bring it up again at next Council call.
Please, read the document and share your thoughts on this email list!
Kind regards,
Gabi
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+1 :-) M Margarita Valdés Cortés Legal & Business Adviser NIC Chile - University of Chile www.nic.cl +5629407700 El 07-09-2012, a las 7:54, Sokol Haxhiu <shaxhiu@yahoo.com> escribió:
I agree with Keith on this point. We can try and see how "coctails and snacks" can work out.
Sokol
On 2012/09/07 1:37 AM, "Keith Davidson" <keith@internetnz.net.nz> wrote:
I too was surprised to hear the levels of anxiety being caused to our secretariat by these dinners.
I think the recommendation put forward by Gabi to have a "cocktails and snacks for the entire ccTLD community" is worth testing, and I would suggest we adopt this format for perhaps the first 2 ICANN meetings in 2013, and evaluate and compare and make a final decision at that point.
I think the opportunity to socialise with the broader group, and the transient nature of discussions over cocktails would enable us all to meet and chat with a broader cross section of our community. I do find the sit-down dinners a little restrictive on being able to meet and mingle, so this format is an improvement.
And I think the impact on the local host, on the sponsors, and the ability to continue to have the event close to or at the meeting venue will all be important pluses to this process
And finally, anything that can ease the burden and hassles on our secretariat must be good for us all...
Cheers
Keith
On 31/08/2012 2:59 a.m., Lesley Cowley wrote:
Thanks Gabi for the paper.
I have now been able to listen to the call recording and was not surprised to hear the level of interest in this item!
From both the paper and the call, I understand that the popularity of the dinners has resulted in problems and we currently have a 'problem statement' that covers three problems:
1. The administration of the ccNSO dinner is becoming increasingly time consuming and problematic for our Secretariat 2. The cost of the dinners has now risen to a level that makes it challenging to find sufficient sponsorship 3. We cannot currently accommodate everyone who would like to come to the dinners and people become frustrated and/or disappointed
Perhaps as a starting point for our discussion, it would be helpful to know if there are any other problems that we have missed?
Assuming we can agree on what problems we are trying to solve, the next challenge will be to consider solutions. On the call, I heard solutions being proposed that would address some, but not all of the problems, such as asking attendees to pay for some of the costs, asking the local hosts to organise.
Its always quite difficult to have a debate on this kind of topic via an email list, but at the very least I suggest that we use the list to gather some suggestions on options that we can bring together in a paper for our next Council call.
Thoughts and suggestions welcomeŠ..
Kind regards,
Lesley
Lesley Cowley, OBE CEO Nominet Minerva House Edmund Halley Road Oxford Science Park Oxford, OX4 4DQ UK
Tel: +44-(0)-1865-332211 http://www.nominet.org.uk/
From: Gabriella Schittek <gabriella.schittek@icann.org <mailto:gabriella.schittek@icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:01 To: ccNSO Council <ccnso-council@icann.org <mailto:ccnso-council@icann.org>> Subject: [ccnso-council] Item to discuss: Future of ccNSO Dinners
Dear Councillors,
The issue of the Future of the ccNSO Dinners caused quite a debate at today's call, so it was decided to once again forward the document on this subject to the Council list and to discuss it online. We can then bring it up again at next Council call.
Please, read the document and share your thoughts on this email list!
Kind regards,
Gabi
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participants (4)
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Barrack Ong'ondo Otieno -
Hong Xue -
Margarita Valdes -
Sokol Haxhiu